Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by Latindancer

She may well (and in fact probably) climbed there from another floor. From all accounts, there was a lot of that happening.

Why would a person climb into an area that has been struck by a plane and supposedly engulfed in fire?

She may have fell through from above. Who knows and what does it matter and why is this the first anyones noticed in 15 years.
In fact the close I look the less it looks like a person and more like an optical illusion.

It's not a person unless you see Jesus in Cheese or Buddha in a bowl of cornflakes.

Originally Posted by Cujo

She may have fell through from above. Who knows and what does it matter and why is this the first anyones noticed in 15 years.
In fact the close I look the less it looks like a person and more like an optical illusion.

She's been speculated about for years, on TD too, on an earlier 9/11 thread, which got dog-housed.

The North tower fire from the initial explosion only lasted 16 minutes or thereabouts.

The white smoke pouring out of the a.c. vents is from smoke machines/generators, not an oil or office fire, the smoke's not dark enough.

What planes? Where?

Another,

Another take on this;

Originally Posted by ENT

Another take on this;

Very convincing, thanks.

Cheers.

Thank you, ENT.

An intriguing video above

Look at the top image again.

Look at the lines.

Look at the shading.

It's a photo-shopp'ed-to-shit image.

Anyone else think that?

It's a layered image.

That's why you see the obvious lines and shade changes.

Originally Posted by Black Heart

Are you black like your avater (=dumb).

Standing by open air decreases the heat you feel from burning. The fire in that area is not visible therefore it's likely out. But there is significant heat.

You're missing the "bigger picture" mate - literally

The woman appears to move at 1min 15 secs, or so, the rest of the time she was observed, 20 mins she didn't move at all from her position.

Her legs don't move at all.

Another dummy set up by Gelatin?

They leased and occupied that floor, if its Flr 91 or 92.

It's looking that way.

Staggering - all the people like Ant Robertson siding with mass murderer Bush all the time. OHHHH must believe everything Bush and the mainstream corporate media tells us to bellieve.

I reread 1984 recently - bet no of the SNOPES brigade have. Might see the bigger picture behind all of the corporate media lies if they did.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Staggering - all the people like Ant Robertson siding with mass murderer Bush all the time. OHHHH must believe everything Bush and the mainstream corporate media tells us to bellieve.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I reread 1984 recently - bet no of the SNOPES brigade have. Might see the bigger picture behind all of the corporate media lies if they did.

^ Totally and hopelessly obsessed by your belief, ain't ya Spazz?

Get a life.

Why do sensible and rational people seem to lose the ability to act sensibly and rationally when they are in conflict? What makes some families tear themselves apart in a variety of squabbles which to outsiders may seem petty but which result in family members not speaking to each other for years? What drives neighbours to blight their daily lives with unpleasant, bitter and confrontational disputes? And how can otherwise placid and restrained people become almost unrecognisable when involved in road rage incidents – or even trolley rage in supermarkets?


The answer may be distilled down to one psychological phenomenon: self-esteem. It is one of the strongest motivating factors in conflict and generates powerful emotions. We all have self-esteem, whether corporate or individual; we all have a need to think well of ourselves, and for others to think well of us. Self-esteem governs many of the decisions we make daily, as we expend huge amounts of time and effort constantly maintaining and protecting our self-image.


The flipside of our desire for approval is our aversion to disapproval – or worse still, our dread of humiliation. An example of this is the fear of public speaking – a dread that can be greater than that of flying or even of death. It is explained by the fact that the disapproval of each person in the audience constitutes a potentially significant attack on our self-image. The larger the audience, the more overwhelming is the prospect of humiliation.

Our brains seem to indicate that saying sorry will be as painful as putting our hand into a fire

There is now neurological evidence demonstrating the effect that attacks on our self-esteem have on the brain. One study showed that “social pain” activated the same circuits of the brain as physical pain. Consequently any attack on our self-image is interpreted by the brain as physical pain. When we speak of “hurt” feelings, we acknowledge that any form of censure, from slight criticism to outright condemnation or rejection, affects our self-esteem and is felt as physical pain – hence our aversion to admitting fault or to accepting liability. The word “sorry” is one of the most difficult to express, despite it being the quickest, cheapest and most effective form of resolving a dispute. But our brain seems to indicate to us that saying sorry will be as painful as putting our hand into a fire.


The ability to monitor neural pathways helps us to see how our brain functions in conflict situations. For example, we now have a neurological explanation of our “fight or flight” instinct. This reflex is governed by the amygdala, two small structures in the brain that control our instinctive responses. Originally needed as a part of our evolutionary development, they enabled us to act swiftly and instinctively in the face of physical attacks in the wild.


Today the amygdala can be triggered by any attack on our self-esteem. When the brain perceives a threat, whether physical or on our self-image, the amygdala “takes control”, diverting the signals away from the cortex, the “thinking” part of the brain. This “amygdala hijack” prevents us from engaging in logical or analytical thought, instead creating instant defensive reactions.


That is why we recoil at any allegation of fault, whether in business, within the family, behind the wheel of a car – or in the supermarket. It is an assault on our self-esteem, and it is painful. It is at these moments that we need to shrink our egos, to tell ourselves that our self-esteem is unnecessarily getting in the way, and that it is far more productive to try to see things from the other’s perspective.


The Psychology of Conflict: Mediating in a Diverse World by Paul Randolph is published by Bloomsbury. To order a copy for £30, go to bookshop.theguardian.com

Originally Posted by ENT

^ Totally and hopelessly obsessed by your belief, ain't ya Spazz?

Get a life.

humm prattmaster ent of the magic indestructible orange paint speaks of beliefs

the belief that blackboxes and the orange paint on them are not indestructible
that air cannot magically disappear
that gravity exists
that steel looses much of looses strength long before it melts
that fire can melt aluminium and glass
that red hot steel reacts with air or steam in a strongly exothermic reaction
that finite elements is a good model of how materials behave under stress

all things that are incompatible with the belief system of 9/11 crackpots... As with intelligent design... if it behave and quacks like creationism then it is creationism.

Personally I will go with physics over dogma everytime.... for fucks sake after 14 years non of you 9/11 crackpots has ever managed to show a vertical H beam being cut with thermalite or any of the other demolition methods you bang on about.... why? because you carn't because they only exist in your imaginations... which don't cut anything


And how bush and neo cons must be laughing that you chaps have managed to distract everyone from their negligence, the absence of which might have stopped 9/11 as other similar plots were stopped. And yes allowed them to get away with that massive conspiracy to invade topple sadam.

^ Crazy as a cuckoo in spring, and just as obsessed.

Ok ENT.....show us a vertical H beam being cut with thermite or any of the other demolition methods you bang on about.

They were cut by firemen using oxy cutters, you twat. I told you a long time ago (when I first encountered you, actually) that I had used one and that I had also made and used thermite in high school.

Have YOU ever used an oxy or thermite ? It's no big deal to use either, but if you haven't then you will have no idea of how they behave.