Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by ENT

The type of nuclear devices used on 911 were a modified version of the W-54 nuclear artillery shells

Chemical analysis done by DOE Sandi was able to identify the chemical/radiation footprint or fingerprint of the warheads based on samples taken after 911 of the fallout at ground zero. (Editor’s note: Nuclear weapon use at ground zero is confirmed from multiple sources)

All plutonium based warheads have a chemical fingerprint that can identify the type of design and where the PU was made and how old it is.

Fallout would be minimal and located to within ground zero range only. Radiation would drop to acceptable levels within 72 hrs. after the blast. Most fall out was trapped in the cement dust thus causing all of the recent cancer deaths that we are now seeing in NYC amongst first responders. (Editor’s note: Consistent with site data)

The pill shaped design of the W-54 type weapon contains over 1.5 times more plutonium than a standard pit. This would allow enough Plutonium to be recovered that was still of weapons grade use even after 32 plus years of age.

Usually it was about 150 days max. Irradiation time in the reactor during production determines the shelf life of the pit as weapons grade material. All of the micro nukes used by the Israelis are re-manufactured W-54 type series devices.

Most of the fuel is consumed in the plasma fire ball when detonated so there is very little plutonium fallout left to escape. If it is salted with other materials the fallout can be even reduced to lower levels such as in an enhanced radiation device or the so called neutron bomb. This is what was used on 911.

Radiation decay was reduced to safe low levels after 72 hrs., (Editor’s note: Fully confirmed) outside of ground zero its self. This is why the area was blocked off from the public for 3 days after the event, in order to let the radiation drop to safe levels.[1]

To borrow a phrase from Piwanoi, what a crock of shit. All the so-called details but it fails to say which isotope of Plutonium was used. Never mind. Plutonium 238 has a half life of 87 years, Plutonium 239 has a half life of 24,100 years, Plutonium 241 has a half life of 14 years, so how the hell can such allegedly damaging radiation levels reduce to "safe low levels" after only 72 hrs.

And if such a miraculous chemical discovery has been made, why aren't countries like the UK, USA, Russia, Japan and France using it do deal with their stockpliles of used nuclear fuel and radioactive waste? I'm sure the people at Sellafield would love to hear about such a wonderful discovery.

So, now we have moved from holographic planes, cruise missiles, thermite explosions and regular boring old conspiracy shit to a nuclear attack using a mysterious new kind of Plutonium unheard of outside of ENT circles.......

The primary purpose of the nuclear weapon used on 911 was to produce a massive Gama ray / neutron flux that would vaporize about 150 to 300 feet of 6 inch thick steal I beams that constituted the central core of the WTC buildings. This created a free fall event as seen on TV that day. (Editor’s note: Critical information here.)

The flash would be hidden from sight due to the underground detonation. Most of the light was in the non-visible light spectrum any way. Over pressure would be reduced to 6 psi due to the blast traveling up the central core and neutron radiation vaporizing the TV antenna at the top of the building as see on TV.

The fallout would be mainly vaporized concrete cement and iron oxide. This is why after 911 they told everyone on TV that the beta radiation burns that people were getting were due to the caustic cement dust and not due to the radiation effects from the radioactive cement fallout. (Editor’s note: Fully confirmed)

Confirmed by who? how? where?

fucking hell, the loonies are really out today.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Confirmed by who? how? where?

ENT got it from a source in Russia.....that's all you need to know.....

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by Koojo

Confirmed by who? how? where?

ENT got it from a source in Russia.....that's all you need to know.....

No he didn't, he got it from another nutjob website.

I'd love to see his bookmarks, they must be hysterical.

Mind you, the bloke that posted it even upset Alex Jones, so he has to be a fucking head case.

Investigative journalist Matt Short gives his first hand account of his experience during a night on the town after the JFK Assassination anniversary on Nov 22nd 2013. What is normally a private affair among men, Anthony Gucciardi stepped well outside of manly boundaries by taking a group of prominent Alternative Media journalists and producers to a local Dallas gay bar without their knowledge and consent. As Matt Short states, although the group was tolerant and had no problem with being at a gay bar with Gucciardi, when Gucciardi was observed by the group dancing with a transvestite, he again stepped outside the realm of proper decorum by threatening everyone not to disclose what they had seen. Short stated he went so far as to “threaten to destroy their careers.
Not only were there multiple confirmed witnesses to this event, as well as the threats, Gucciardi obviously followed through on his threat by destroying the career of a prominent & reputable Alternative Media producer who was fired within 48 hours of the scandalous remarks.
Is Alex Jones infiltrated by a sexual deviant; an unethical “truther” who threatens others not to disclose the truth — even though witnesses had no intentions of revealing the details of this escapade? Is Anthony Gucciardi directly responsible for the firings of InfoWars.com and/or Alt Media employees, obviously sabotaging or compromising the integrity and stability of the worlds largest Alternative

He also revealed that our dustbins are spying on us (that's when he's not trying to get the ladyboy cock).

In an astounding testament to the depth of our surveillance society, a new line of ‘spy trashcans’ have been rolled out that further the international agenda to track and collect all of your personal data at every turn.

Yes indeed...ENT's bookmarks must be a sight to behold. He's probably got thousands, too.

Unfortunately, from his comments, he has been too thick to understand my posts :

Originally Posted by Latindancer

It is hard to imagine how a shaped-charge would leave grooves that so closely resemble torch artifacts.

The 45 degree angle argument is weak too. It could have been just a convenient angle to cut at because other debris was obstructing, or perhaps the cutter was trying to direct the column to fall in a certain direction or maybe the cutter was trying to create a "hinge" so that the weight of the column acted to open the cut (rather than close it).
..........

Regarding the angled cut, for anyone who has felled a tree, this angle on vertical beams will come as no surprise. It is a way of controlling the weight and tendency to fall. It was surely not a way of working around obstructions, and yes, it is more material to cut, but safety for the cleanup worker would be the primary concern, so it is no coincidence that all those cut beams show a similar cut, designed to contain chaos.

And both he and Albert are suffering from such a degree of confirmation bias that they have probably never read Wikipedia on the subject :

Flight 93 fragmented violently upon impact. Most of the aircraft wreckage was found near the impact crater.[80] Investigators found some very light debris including paper and nylon scattered up to eight miles (13 km) from the impact point in New Baltimore, Pennsylvania.[81] Other tiny aircraft fragments were found 1.5 miles (2.4 km) away at Indian Lake, Pennsylvania.[82] All human remains were found within a 70-acre (28 ha) area surrounding the impact point.[82] Somerset County Coroner Wally Miller was involved in the investigation and identification of the remains. In examining the wreckage, the only human body part he could see was part of a backbone.[83] Miller later found and identified 1,500 pieces of human remains totaling about 600 pounds (272 kg), or eight percent of the total.[84] The rest of the remains were consumed by the impact.[85] Investigators identified four victims by September 22 and eleven by September 24.[86][87] They identified another by September 29.[88] Thirty-four passengers were identified by October 27.[89] All the people on board the flight were identified by December 21. Human remains were so fragmented that investigators could not determine whether any victims were dead before the plane crashed. Death certificates for the 40 victims listed the cause of death as homicide and listed the cause of death for the four hijackers as suicide.[90] The remains and personal effects of the victims were returned to the families.[91] The remains of the hijackers, identified by the process of elimination, were turned over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) as evidence.[92]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

We can all see from the photo that there APPEARS to be no plane, but the hundreds of people who worked on the case say differently.

It's like the people at WTC7 hearing cracking and "explosions"....which were basically the building breaking down in places, structurally.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

We can all see from the photo that there APPEARS to be no plane

Well done.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

I think you need to go and put the D hat on again fella - quoting from a source that can be edited by anyone

More like "quoting stuff which everyone knows", mate.

Except two loonies on TD, with the occasional extra one popping in for a comment.

^Do you not see the ridiculousness of what you posted?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Investigators found some very light debris including paper and nylon scattered up to eight miles (13 km) from the impact point

If the plane hit the ground at 500mph - how could debris be found so far away.

Do you understand that it's a load of bollocks?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Other tiny aircraft fragments were found 1.5 miles (2.4 km) away at Indian Lake, Pennsylvania.[82]

Originally Posted by Latindancer

All human remains were found within a 70-acre (28 ha) area surrounding the impact point.

Whee round an round we go swing your theory dose e' doe.

Reading this thread is so much fun!

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

^Do you not see the ridiculousness of what you posted?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Investigators found some very light debris including paper and nylon scattered up to eight miles (13 km) from the impact point

If the plane hit the ground at 500mph - how could debris be found so far away.

Do you understand that it's a load of bollocks?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Other tiny aircraft fragments were found 1.5 miles (2.4 km) away at Indian Lake, Pennsylvania.[82]

Originally Posted by Latindancer

All human remains were found within a 70-acre (28 ha) area surrounding the impact point.

Have you ever seen anything crash at 500mph?

No, didn't think so.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Have you ever seen anything crash at 500mph?

No, have you?

I didn't see anything bounce 13km away though.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Do you not see the ridiculousness of what you posted?

Coming from the Shagmaster, this is quite hilarious........

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier" ]Do you understand that it's a load of bollocks? [/QUOTE]


Describes your posts perfectly Albert........:)


[QUOTE="Albert Shagnastier

If the plane hit the ground at 500mph - how could debris be found so far away.

What a stupid question.. Jeesus.....that is precisely why the debris was found over such a large area. The plane hit the ground in an inverted position and at an acute angle and very high speed. The resulting impact caused it to totally disintegrate; sending up a huge cloud of smoke and debris fragments.....which were scattered over a wide area. Like just about everything else this has been explained over and over.

Your latest "evidence" of conspiracy is a small town Mayor mumbling about not seeing a plane.. That's because the plane was in a zillion pieces and no doubt the Mayor and his buddies were expecting to find a fuselage and all kinds of intact stuff laying around....which happens in a "normal" crash.

There was nothing routine or normal about this crash...or the resulting debris field. Clearly some people have very set views about what a crash site should look like, so if it does not look they way they expect, it's a big mystery to them.

Masses of forensic data was collected at the site....victims were identified, and the black box and voice recorder was recovered.....buried deep in the ground beneath the initial impact point; but we know that's not good enough for the nutjobs....so off you go, back to the loony sites for more reasons why the whole thing was faked....and then we can await the next salvo of bullshit......

Originally Posted by koman

Coming from the Shagmaster, this is quite hilarious.....

Still no answers then?

Originally Posted by koman

.that is precisely why the debris was found over such a large area. The plane hit the ground in an inverted position and at an acute angle and very high speed. The resulting impact caused it to totally disintegrate; sending up a huge cloud of smoke and debris fragments.....which were scattered over a wide area.

Originally Posted by koman

Your latest "evidence" of conspiracy is a small town Mayor mumbling about not seeing a plane..

That's the Mayor of Shanksville you fool

Go and sit with LD fella

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

That's the Mayor of Shanksville you fool

Of course it the Mayor or Shanksville.... a small town Mayor mumbling.....did you think he was some kind of aviation crash investigation expert???

^Most of the shit you post is weak - but that's special

Originally Posted by koman

Then we have the problem of constantly changing governments with different leadership, different staff., different everything, ...and still they manage to keep everything watertight and secure.. .. absolutely amazing government; so much better and smarter then we thought eh....

Most of all different, self serving agenda's on who did what? Like if they had ANY evidence to the contrary they wouldn't ride it until it dropped dead like a horse that's been running flat out for hours.

^^^^I especially like the touches where the author continually writes (confirmed) in parenthesis but there's no source or method mentioned.. Nice touch though.. The spelling is that of a 4th grader too, words like 'their' spelled "there" and 'now' spelled "know" for all of the scientific manure written you'd think they'd take better care to spell properly, kind of flies in the face of reason which is what they're trying so hard to prove..Great stuff that..

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by koman

Coming from the Shagmaster, this is quite hilarious.....

Still no answers then?

There's been several really well reasoned and accurate one's so far but agreed, none that you're capable of comprehending..

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I hate to burst your bubble but if you say a cutting torch would not make slag as such in the picture you no nothing on the subject. Having a degree in welding technology and working 35 years in the business I can assure you that beam was cut with a torch.

So why ran waste time angle cutting several uprights when all the neighbouring uprights are rough-cut across?

I wasn't addressing the why of the torch cuts, I was addressing the fact you are out to lunch on your opinion that they were not torch cuts, would you care to address that

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I hate to burst your bubble but if you say a cutting torch would not make slag as such in the picture you no nothing on the subject. Having a degree in welding technology and working 35 years in the business I can assure you that beam was cut with a torch.

So why ran waste time angle cutting several uprights when all the neighbouring uprights are rough-cut across?

I wasn't addressing the why of the torch cuts, I was addressing the fact you are out to lunch on your opinion that they were not torch cuts, would you care to address that

You're wasting your time, the wheel is spinning but the hamster's long gone.

[QUOTE=koman;2862685]

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

If the plane hit the ground at 500mph - how could debris be found so far away.

".....that is precisely why the debris was found over such a large area. The plane hit the ground in an inverted position and at an acute angle and very high speed. The resulting impact caused it to totally disintegrate; sending up a huge cloud of smoke and debris fragments.....which were scattered over a wide area."....koman





Flt 93's black boxes.




One black box was mounted in the rear of the plane's fuselage, so how come it ended up buried well below the level of where the plane's engine was found?







So the plane landed something like this.






Leaving a hole like this





"....a small town Mayor mumbling about not seeing a plane.. That's because the plane was in a zillion pieces and no doubt the Mayor and his buddies were expecting to find a fuselage and all kinds of intact stuff laying around....which happens in a "normal" crash."....koman

" There was nothing routine or normal about this crash...or the resulting debris field.
Masses of forensic data was collected at the site....victims were identified, and the black box and voice recorder was recovered.....buried deep in the ground beneath the initial impact point...".....koman




"This crash was different. There was no wreckage, no
bodies, and no noise."
- Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller [1]

"I was looking for anything that said tail, wing, plane, metal.
There was nothing."
- Photographer Scott Spangler [2]

"I was amazed because it did not, in any way, shape, or form,
look like a plane crash."
- Patrick Madigan, commander of the Somerset
barracks of the Pennsylvania State Police [3]


Many people who witnessed the site where United Airlines Flight 93 is supposed to have gone down on September 11, 2001, have said how little it resembled what they expected the scene of a plane crash to look like. "
Shoestring 9/11: Shanksville, Pennsylvania, on 9/11: The Mysterious Plane Crash Site Without a Plane

One of its engines was found and dug up from the ground at the crash site,







The other engine was found miles away!