Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

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Im Hearing what you are saying Albert but it just dont work does it.

Highly intellegent people have pored over every aspect of the conspirocy theory and not one can get it into a court of law or pin something feasable down.

I mean, the Brain power that has been afforded to the 9/11 conspiracy is massive and still no outcome.????

I'm not talking about fuk ups like ENT , I'm talking people with very evolved intellegence.

Not the sort that post on Teak Door by the way.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

50 people in the floors where the planes hit the towers had access to thermite/thermate - strange coincidence

This statement means nothing.

_I_ have access to thermite. I can make it by mixing zinc dust and sulphur. Or I can

go to the local railroad workshop one dark night and steal some.

I wanted to stay out of this but

<H1>Thermite

Theories that Aluminothermic Materials Were Used to Destroy the Twin Towers

The idea that thermite or similar preparations were used exclusively or in combination with other methods to destroy the Twin Towers remained unexamined for several years after the attack, despite its merits.
Aluminothermic reactions are exothermic chemical reactions in which aluminum is oxidized while an oxide of another metal is reduced. Although high temperatures are required to initiate such reactions, they are easily self-sustaining once started due to the heat they generate. The most common example of an aluminothermic reaction is thermite, in which powdered aluminum reacts with an iron oxide. Because aluminum has a greater affinity for oxygen than iron, oxygen is transferred from the iron oxide to the aluminum, releasing a great deal of energy and leaving behind molten iron and aluminum oxide.
The spout of orange molten metal and rising white smoke emerging form the South Tower have the appearance of a thermite reaction.
Professor Steven Jones has noted that a number of features evident both before and after the falls of the Towers fit the theory that thermite was used. These include:

• A spout of orange molten metal seen just before the South Tower's fall in videos of the Tower's north face around the crash zone
• Reports of molten metal in the remarkably hot rubble of Ground Zero
• High levels of metals found in aluminothermic incendiaries -- such as manganese, zinc, and barium -- in samples of World Trade Center dust
• Remains of the Towers' structural steel showing severe corrosive attack involving sulfur An iron-rich sphere found in dust form the Twin Towers. The solidified droplet indicates temperatures in excess of the melting point of iron (2795ºF).
• Minute solidified droplets of previously molten iron in samples of World Trade Center dust
• Pieces of active nano-engineered aluminothermic chips in samples of World Trade Center dust

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Thermite Variants

Basic thermite preparations can be modified and augmented in various ways to change their properties. The fineness of the aluminum powder determines the speed of the reaction. The use of ultra-fine aluminum powder gives the reaction an explosive quality, resulting in 'super-thermites'. The addition of sulfur in preparations called thermates enhances the ability of the reaction to cut through steel.
Findings reported in Appendix C of FEMA's World Trade Center Building Performance Study seem to fit the thermite theory remarkably well.
Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. A liquid eutectic mixture containing primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel.
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The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified.
Because there are many possible types of pyrotechnics that exploit the energy-dense thermite reaction, the architects of the World Trade Center demolition might have relied entirely on such materials to attack the structures in several different ways, as is suggested by this hypothetical blasting scenario.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/theories/thermite.html</H1>

Please read Steven E. Jones; A Physics Professor Speaks Out on 9-11

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by taxexile

thats a fire that burnt the highly inflammable plastic protective sheeting surrounding the scaffolding of a building under construction.

Well spotted !

You are conspiracy nuts in your own right, and as credulous as the government wants you to be

That building had no scaffolding anymore, a zinc-titanium alloy face, and construction was completed but for minor stuff indoors.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Please read Steven E. Jones; A Physics Professor Speaks Out on 9-11

Thanks for posting your find.

Originally Posted by Rainfall

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by taxexile

thats a fire that burnt the highly inflammable plastic protective sheeting surrounding the scaffolding of a building under construction.

Well spotted !

You are conspiracy nuts in your own right, and as credulous as the government wants you to be

That building had no scaffolding anymore, a zinc-titanium alloy face, and construction was completed but for minor stuff indoors.

Exactly.

Did the above building collapse at free fall speed?

Don't bother - I think we all know the answer

By the way - WTC 7 had fires on 1 or 2 floors.

This is what happened

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I wanted to stay out of this but

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Is being quiet just so you can avoid the grief just to live out your life in peace and quiet more important then a few bags under your eyes and giving your kids a hope in hell against these fuckers?

"The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. – Benjamin Franklin"

The catchline from the site you just linked to.

No such thing as a coincidence

Originally Posted by Latindancer

_I_ have access to thermite. I can make it by mixing zinc dust and sulphur. Or I can go to the local railroad workshop one dark night and steal some.

Make sure you let Terry know, he thinks that shit is as rare as Kryptonite

Originally Posted by Rainfall

Originally Posted by terry57

Would it be unreasonable or reasonable to concider that all the people involved in a conspirocy of this size would be able to actually keep it quiet for so long.

I mean one would expect that maybe one of the lads would let it slip when he was on the piss with his mates that he was involved in rigging WTC 7 or rigging the Twin Towers or whatever.

Then that guy would go to the media and say, Hey, I know this guy who recons he was involved with rigging up WTC 7.

Happens every day of the week with other important stuff so why not this story ?


I mean, thats all I'm saying. This has never happenned. Why not ????



Cause it did'nt happen that way.

On the other hand, we would know nothing about the NSA spy affair without Snowden, yet tousands of people are initiated. Take him, Assange, Manning, and you can imagine what happens to whistleblowers.

Exactly

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Assange is one person,

You guys are talking a plethora of people needed to pull of the Conspiracy.

Why do they not get together and blow this gig sky high ?

Once one talks the rest will follow for sure.

I recon they would be gagging to tell the story if it was true especially if one where on the death bed and ready to kick off.

Why not tell the world that you where the one that planted the Thermite in WTC 7 ??

No reason not to is there ??

Get famous before you Die.

They will not simply because it did not fuking happen.

Originally Posted by terry57

^ Assange is one person, You guys are talking a plethora of people needed to pull of the Conspiracy. Why do they not get together and blow this gig sky high ? Once one talks the rest will follow for sure. I recon they would be gagging to tell the story if it was true especially if one where on the death bed and ready to kick off. Why not tell the world that you where the one that planted the Thermite in WTC 7 ?? No reason not to is there ?? Get famous before you Die.

They will Terry - be sure of that.

As they were all probably between 20 and 60 - expect the death bed confession within the next 15- 55 years or so.

But why wait that long to put things right when the evidence is so fucking vast that at least a new enquiry should begin ASAP?

Please note - all anyone (us tin foil hat wearing truthers as you like to call us ) has ever asked for is for everybody even slightly possibly involved, to be bought to (I don't know..say the Hague?) for a proper scientific - GLOBAL AND INDEPENDENT investigation.

A civil law suit bought against about 200 people (from which the guilty would be found) would suffice to destroy the culprits business interests.

Lets convict these fuckers and put this bitch to bed so we can move forward as a race of people to the future

^^ Fame is fleeting Terry, and the stupidest thing anyone can chase.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by Latindancer

_I_ have access to thermite. I can make it by mixing zinc dust and sulphur. Or I can go to the local railroad workshop one dark night and steal some.

Make sure you let Terry know, he thinks that shit is as rare as Kryptonite

Terry also thinks that it'd take a load of people with loads of brains and resources to carry out a conspiracy to blow up the WTC and Pentagon.

I agree with Terry entirely.

That theory makes a lot more sense than the one where only 19 poorly trained Arabs who couldn't even fly a Cessna, directed by another ailing Arab on dialysis hiding out in a cave somewhere in Afghanistan with a laptop and a cell phone, were the culprits is stretching the imagination beyond belief.

How has Silverstein managed to get away with murder, in the most obvious case of insurance fraud ever?


Thanks to his partner in crime, Judge Alvin Hellerstein.


Hellerstein’s courtroom is Ground Zero in the cover-up of the crimes of 9/11. Virtually all 9/11 litigation has been funneled through his courtroom, including Ellen Mariani’s recent lawsuit against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and others.


Like Silverstein and Eisenberg, Hellerstein is a rabid Zionist with close ties to Israel. The judge’s son and sister both emigrated from the US to orthodox Zionist settlements in the Occupied Territories.


Investigative journalist Christopher Bollyn writes: “Hellerstein’s son is an Israeli lawyer who emigrated to Israel in 2001 and whose law firm works for and with the Rothschild-funded Mossad company responsible for the 9-11 terror attacks.”


Bollyn notes that Hellerstein’s son, an Israeli lawyer, represents “the Mossad-controlled airport security firm named International Consultants on Targeted Security (ICTS) N.V., which is the owner of Huntleigh U.S.A., the passenger screening company that checked the passengers that boarded the aircraft at the key airports on 9-11.”


Additionally, Bollyn writes, “Both Alvin Hellerstein and his son Joseph worked for the well-known Jewish law firm of Stroock, Stroock & Lavan before moving to the positions they now hold…Stroock, Stroock & Lavan played a key role in the setting up of 9-11…Stroock has a long history of representing the Rothschilds and other high-level Zionists.”


Will New York City 9/11 skeptics protest the Silverstein-Hellerstein trial this Monday through Wednesday?


Will truth and justice ever triumph?


In order to triumph, truth and justice will have to defeat the world’s wealthiest and most powerful criminal network.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

orld Trade Center Insurance Fraud? ; WTC 7: The Smoking Gun

How has Silverstein managed to get away with murder, in the most obvious case of insurance fraud ever?


Thanks to his partner in crime, Judge Alvin Hellerstein.


Looks like a very trustworthy and kind=hearted fellow to me


http://www.goldismoney2.com/attachme...1&d=1373888765


http://www.bollyn.com/public/Hellers..._up_in_hat.jpg


(I'll get me coat )

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

By the way - WTC 7 had fires on 1 or 2 floors.

This is what happened

You've got tunnel vision Shaggy. That's your confirmation bias right there.

Now look at what someone filmed, and remember the building was on fire for the best part of 7 hours before it collapsed, and the FIREMEN (not CIA agents) were all expecting it to collapse at any time.


Footage that kills the conspiracy theories: Rare footage shows WTC 7 consumed by fire | Mail Online

Your cognitive dissonance prevents you from even seeing the obvious.

The video shows up-close shots of the lower floors of World Trade Center Building 7, located just across the street from the Twin Towers, and focuses in on the exterior metal beams of Building 7 as they begin to buckle as they are overheated.

The buckling led to floors falling in on one another, causing the building to collapse.

And another thing. Why would they bother blowing up the WTC anyway?

Apart from the near certainty that such an operation would be discovered, there was no point in doing it since, even if they hadn't collapsed, they would have had to have been demolished anyway.

It would have been better press to have them there as an reminder and an eyesore for months.

So that story's just a whole load of pointless bollocks, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

did you watch it?

I did

Good one

Haven't seen part 3 though

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Sorry Harry, I only see what looks like aluminium window frames and sprinkler pipes that have buckled.
I was expecting to see warped or buckled main support columns.

Because thermite and/or explosives were in place, and they couldn't risk their discovery.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

owner of Huntleigh U.S.A., the passenger screening company that checked the passengers that boarded the aircraft at the key airports on 9-11.”

How come Larry hasn't sued ?