Thread: Rubber trees 101

I will let you know once sold, sugar cane is a good cash crop, and is going up and little work, rubber has had its day and requires a lot of work for now little return, and open your eyes they are cutting down rubber every where, even you stated truck loads of rubber lumber going down the road, sugar is far better money earner than casava. but you need good soil for it to grow well.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by mykthemin

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yes have over 100 rai and am about to cut 50% down and plant more sugar cane and yawn to you!

Really, never heard of anyone cutting good rubber to do sugar.

Originally Posted by mykthemin

and it is purely a hobby I do not see any of the money, it is pocket money for my wife and the land for my son in the future.

Today's exchange rates you give your wife around 20,000 pounds pocket moeny.

Originally Posted by thaiguzzi

That's a lot of pocket money...
Does she get a monthly allowance as well?

Originally Posted by mykthemin

yes of course. I have plenty and planned my life here properly, not hoping it works like most with absolutely no idea.

She needs more then 20 grand pounds a year and you make up the difference.

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yes and my son he will be very wealthy one day.

If your so well off now, there's no one day, he's already rich.

I and others would be interested in the cost/profit benefits of going over to sugar, plus how much you are getting for the rubber lumber.

Maybe his wife is getting the money for the rubber lumber , he sounds like he's one hell of a good hearted guy .

Originally Posted by mykthemin

it is purely a hobby I do not see any of the money

This is not an attack on you mykthemin but every time I ask some farang why they need to do farming, or open a cafe/restaurant, they give the reply 'it's just a hobby'. I find that confusing as they know the likelihood of getting a return on their money is next to zero. So why have a hobby that they know won't give a return?

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by mykthemin

it is purely a hobby I do not see any of the money

This is not an attack on you mykthemin but every time I ask some farang why they need to do farming, or open a cafe/restaurant, they give the reply 'it's just a hobby'. I find that confusing as they know the likelihood of getting a return on their money is next to zero. So why have a hobby that they know won't give a return?

From what I have heard many times before their "hobby" is their Thai Wife's idea .

Sold at auction yesterday, 25.33 baht per kg. First good output of this season, due to decent weather, which was a bonus.
Re, the above few posts, i was gonna bite, as my original reply to the "wealthy one" had a hint of sarcasm in it, which obviously went straight over his (big) head, and i spend too much time on various forums as it is.

Originally Posted by thaiguzzi

Sold at auction yesterday, 25.33 baht per kg. First good output of this season, due to decent weather, which was a bonus.
Re, the above few posts, i was gonna bite, as my original reply to the "wealthy one" had a hint of sarcasm in it, which obviously went straight over his (big) head, and i spend too much time on various forums as it is.

Just a pity you did not notice mine too

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by mykthemin

it is purely a hobby I do not see any of the money

This is not an attack on you mykthemin but every time I ask some farang why they need to do farming, or open a cafe/restaurant, they give the reply 'it's just a hobby'. I find that confusing as they know the likelihood of getting a return on their money is next to zero. So why have a hobby that they know won't give a return?

Yes, I am retired and do not need to work again ever, the land was for my sons future and has already increased in value at an amazing rate, it also helps my wifes family with work and a 40% cut in the rubber income, win win for me all round.

Originally Posted by mykthemin

I am retired and do not need to work again ever

I'm the same. I retired aged 53, 11 years ago. I had the chance to buy land over those years but always resisted the pressure of following other farangs into farming on the pretense of it being a hobby. I have 3 kids and I too have to think of their future but the last thing I'd want them to be forced into, because they will have land, is to be farmers. There is no money in it as far as I can see and never will be. Yes the value of the land has increased over the years but I feel it's now peaked and people realise they can't get the over inflated price they ask for so no one, at village level, is buying land.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by mykthemin

I am retired and do not need to work again ever

I'm the same. I retired aged 53, 11 years ago. I had the chance to buy land over those years but always resisted the pressure of following other farangs into farming on the pretense of it being a hobby. I have 3 kids and I too have to think of their future but the last thing I'd want them to be forced into, because they will have land, is to be farmers. There is no money in it as far as I can see and never will be. Yes the value of the land has increased over the years but I feel it's now peaked and people realise they can't get the over inflated price they ask for so no one, at village level, is buying land.

Loads of plots of land for sale here abouts some of it been on sale for the last 6 years and every year the price seems to go up , the way I see it land is only worth so much if there's a guy there with the money to buy it , otherwise its worthless if no one can afford to pay for it cos you can't spend land

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Loads of plots of land for sale here abouts some of it been on sale for the last 6 years and every year the price seems to go up

If they have debts and the debts increases annually then they will put up the sale price accordingly.
PTT have just bought some land to build a small petrol station near to where I live. No sooner than the land was bought the surrounding land owners doubled the asking price of their land.

Most land near me sells for about 1 million a rai and sells quickly, normally to investors from Bangkok.

Big storm Friday night, power came back an hour or so ago, lost 21 trees so far, 2 more plantations to check, yet.

Seems it's always the biggest and best trees that fall, no pulling them back up, tap root snapped ground level.

Dumb question alert Jim.

Could you not plant a couple of rows of say eucalyptus trees around the plantation to offer protection against high winds?

Originally Posted by tj916

Dumb question alert Jim.

Could you not plant a couple of rows of say eucalyptus trees around the plantation to offer protection against high winds?

Unfortunately, the wind that blows down the trees are mini tornadoes, they can take the roof of a house and not touch next door.

My house was hit , all the shade awnings at the in the front blown away, back all OK.


Nature can be an unpredictable animal.

Touch wood (excuse the pun), we've been ok this year with no trees blown over, or snapped in half. As Jim says, its the big tall trees with huge canopy that suffer, and it's always like a mini localised tornado. A few years ago, when we had the worst storms i've witnessed up here, we lost maybe 10 trees, a mile or so away, whole plantations were gone, mostly snapped off 1.5m off the ground. Devastating for the owners...

Sold cup at auction yesterday, 25.50 baht per kg. Considering the recent and ongoing weather, not a bad fortnight's output.

Originally Posted by thaiguzzi

Sold cup at auction yesterday, 25.50 baht per kg. Considering the recent and ongoing weather, not a bad fortnight's output.

It should improve once the constant rain we have been having of late eases up .

Sold cup at auction yesterday, 25.71 baht per kg. Every fortnight lately, up around 20 Satang.

Originally Posted by thaiguzzi

Sold cup at auction yesterday, 25.71 baht per kg. Every fortnight lately, up around 20 Satang.

Bit strange, the big auction price has been falling all week, but the local gate price hasn't changed.

On a bright note, I'm going to get a load of beer in a few minutes and start drinking early.
The whole clan has gone to town, leaving me all alone, big troubles in little China, father in law lost his appeal in court yesterday.
They are getting some land valued at the land office to try and post bail for another appeal.

No idea what grounds he has for another appeal, but he got 5 years, so guess he's hoping to get another 2 years of freedom on bail.

21 baht cup at gate today minus 6 % water content.


Happy happy..Rubber treed land, ROI, according to my rough calculations, paid for itself and our house about 2010.


Just the two of us now so more than enough monthly income to pay electric, diesel, food and other essentials like beer, cigs, phone cards, clothing etc.


Still cannot reasonably afford or justify another newish truck though..sigh.Not that we really need one.

There is a law already which covers the amount of Sor Por Kor land one can have in a persons name and that being 20 Rai. In a family name it is 25 Rai.

As the law firms here advise that to be sure in not losing out when it comes to buying land is to buy 'Chanote' titled land. All singing all dancing ownership.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

There is a law already which covers the amount of Sor Por Kor land one can have in a persons name and that being 20 Rai. In a family name it is 25 Rai.

As the law firms here advise that to be sure in not losing out when it comes to buying land is to buy 'Chanote' titled land. All singing all dancing ownership.

Yet, I'm sure the same legal advisors will caution against taking these "national" regulations verbatim -

Regarding land/property issues, the provincial and even Amphoe laws are dominantly in place......and certainly will vary, wishy-washy, regarding situation and locale.