Thread: New iPhone - It's Wonderful!

Hmmm Mobile Gazette aren't convinced:

Our opinion is this: Apple are still in denial about the faults. Thousands of customers are unhappy, although it is fair to say that many more customers are probably very happy with their purchase. Apple still deny that the antenna design is flawed, but their offer of free bumpers is surely a tacit admission that there's a problem. Although it may well be true that only a small number of people have a significant problem, Apple's technical explanation seems like flimflam. Many customers will not be happy with the bumper solution, although we expect that it will please the majority of them. However, we could still see this one in court at some time in the future.

Honestly, almost every person on the planet knows what the problem is (except Daffy).

How hard is it?



Even they say: "Apple really need to cut the crap and fix the iPhone 4 before they do lasting damage to themselves and their brand."

only a few hundred thousands not happy, while millions are happy, who cares

marketing victims probably don't use it as a phone anyhow, more like a symbol status

Originally Posted by Gerbil

...but he did offer to upgrade the wife.

WELL, I jumped on that and I can tell you today the reception issues are the same but the wife......




As you can see she has been properly trained how to hold the iPhone 4 by Apple

ROTFLOL!



I think you hit upon the truly magical marketing for Apple -- if that was their way to deal any dissatisfaction issues, they would have the highest customer satisfaction rate in the industry.

Oh wait, they already do.

I think you hit upon the truly magical marketing for Apple -- if that was their way to deal any dissatisfaction issues, they would have the highest customer satisfaction rate in the industry.

Oh wait, they already do.

"No, and I'm considering returning my phone 28%"

Yep, there's a high rate of customer satisfaction if ever I saw one.

Originally Posted by Clogiron

Jeezuz christ on a stick, you have fallen for this Hook Line and sinker plus a copy of the angling times. Apple tweak the firmware so that the bar display shows a higher reading for the same signal attentuation and you believe this is the miracle cure/

You don't read much, do you?

"...and it has yet to drop calls..." it didn't drop them previously, either.

Obviously, the display has been tweaked, but since they increased the dynamic range of the displayed bars from -113 to -121, it doesn't lose the last bar - either way, it's just doing fine making and holding on calls with the single, last bar.

All I know is that iPhone 4 has been able to maintain / make calls in 2 areas in my region that have been known mobile death zones (they have been zero bar / no carrier zones since the days of my Nokia N73), and I am able to make / maintain calls in them with my iPhone 4.

What's particularly funny is that the only people whining on about iPhone 4, how crappy it is, and how terrible Apple is, are the same people who don't actually own one, have never held one, and have admitted to having no interest in the product.

Yeah, definitely a lot of credibility, there...

I have one (obviously) and so do a lot of my clients by now. Everyone is very happy and satisfied with their iPhone 4.

No, wait, one guy was pretty unhappy -- he wanted a white one, and had to settle for the black one.

Originally Posted by Plan B

I tried covering up all of my crappy old Nokia phone to make the bars go down. It didn't work.

Is there something wrong with my phone?

I don't know - ask Nokia:

Nokia: 'we prioritize antenna performance over physical design if they are ever in conflict' -- Engadget

Nokia acknowledges that a "tight grip" can mess with the performance

In general, antenna performance of a mobile device/phone may be affected with a tight grip, depending on how the device is held

Nokia appears to be agreeing with Apple, albeit their design philosophies diverge in terms of them allegedly prioritizing antenna placement over design. Nothing wrong with that. Consumers are free to pick the design philosophies they prefer as well, based on the products they buy.

Symbian Losing Market Share While Competitors Continue to Climb - SlashGear

Nokia rapidly losing Western European market share :: HEXUS.channel - Essential IT business intelligence

Nokia Losing Chinese Market Share Doesn't Bode Well for Future Growth -- Seeking Alpha

It's been going on for a while, it seems:

Nokia Sees Flat Market Share as Apple Gains - BusinessWeek

Seems q bit of Ballmer syndrome going on over there:

Nokia shareholders call for CEO to resign; Palm deal ignored | Electronista

Love a duck, Stevie boy does a wholly boring press conference talking about other peoples' phones to try and cover his own product's shortcomings, and all the fanbois are straight out there googling other phone makers and going "See?! See?!".

What a bunch of lemmings!

^ Right, we covered that - the famous 'time travel' comment, which you are doing your darnedest to forget and ignore.

^ Right, we covered that - the famous 'time travel' comment, which you are doing your darnedest to forget and ignore.

Oh, hey, in other news:

Google halting Nexus One sales through official store after current inventory depleted -- Engadget

Google shuttering the Nexus One? Say it ain't so!

(The reason this is bad news, is that it is one of only totally unlocked Android phones available. Good luck finding many other not carrier locked Android phones).

I think Andy Ihnatko summarized it best:

iPhone 4 Press Conference – The Post-Game Wrapup – Andy Ihnatko's Celestial Waste of Bandwidth (BETA)

Steve Jobs didn’t fall to his knees, rend his garment, clasp his hands together, and beg for forgiveness from users and stockholders.

This has upset many people.

These people are idiots.

^ yeh but Andy Ihnatko is a fanboy, whenever he talks about apple nobody takes him seriously.

^ Oh, fanbois take him seriously... which is all that matters. He's not a mainstream journalist, like David Pogue... and he's spot on in describing you.

Uh huh.

... and you are getting awfully defensive.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Interesting results from a CNET Poll:

Are you satisfied with Apple giving away free bumpers to solve the iPhone 4's antenna woes?

• Yes, I'll happily take my free bumper 37%
• No, and I'm considering returning my phone 28%
• No, but I'll keep my phone anyway 13%
• I never had a problem in the first place 23%

hhhmmmmmmmm

37+28+13+23=?

BBC News - Apple offers free iPhone 4 cases

There is no fault but Apple will give away $180m in free cases not to cure it.

What is that smell? Ah, bullshit.

Wow, you guys are just really wound up over this!

Seems so typically expat -- can't handle a clever, successful business, can you?

Love it!

Whats funny is seeing you scramble all over the place, completely oblivious to Steve Jobs bullshit.

*sucker*

More proof that Stevie was talking out of his arse trying to point the finger at everyone else, instead of admitting the design flaw he hoped no-one would notice:

While HTC hasn't yet come back with an official comment in respect to Apple's decision to highlight the Droid Eris' performance at its emergency press conference, it was happy to let Pocket-lint know about how many of its customers have complained about the Droid Eris.

If you remember, the Droid Eris was one of the handsets featured in the Apple press conference, now dubbed the Antennagate conference, with Steve Jobs and Apple singling it out over more popular handsets like the all metal bodied HTC Legend, and the metal chassis built HTC Desire or HTC Nexus One.

So what percentage of people have complained?

"Approximately .016% of customers," Eric Lin, global head of PR at HTC exclusively revealed to us before adding that "we have had very few complaints about signal or antenna problems on the Eris."

Admittedly it's not as hard hitting as Nokia or RIM's "Apple's attempt to draw RIM into Apple's self-made debacle is unacceptable" statement, but hopefully that's still to come.

Yeah Steve, no-one is falling for your horse doo-doo.

As for an Apple fanboi journalist calling anyone an idiot: CNBC had a panel of eight different people for the launch, and there was one in particular squealing like a little piglet everytime someone said "why doesn't he stop all this talking and tell us what the fix is?". Seemed like a perfectly good question to me, given that this is actually what people were waiting to hear.

The only idiots are the ones that still go out and buy an iphone 4 before Jobs has actually fixed the problem.

It's like making kiddie bikes with loose training wheels. How can people be expected to learn enough to progress onto a decent smartphone?

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

You both are just sooooo pissed and wound up over this, particularly that past the press conference, no one cares about this anymore, and the iPhone 4 continues to sell.

I can just see you both sitting there, seething that no one takes either of you seriously (well, not hard to do, seeing how little credibility and technical background both of you have).

Straight question, Daffy: Are you expecting Apple to announce a re-engineered iPhone 4, without this vulnerability, by September 30th?

(A simple yes or no will do).

i have heard that the current model is going to be identified with the suffix Q and iPhone 4 to be relaunched on 30 September.

Apple will refer to owners of the defective handsets as "4Q Customers"

^^^ translation: after scrambling for 14 pages I have finally realised I have been completely owned, therefore I flounce.

Another Apple fan call it quit and blame it all on Steve Jobs

a must read, and I actually know that guy

Kevin Carmony's Blog: Steve Jobs is Killing Apple - Moving to Android

Originally Posted by Clogiron

i have heard that the current model is going to be identified with the suffix Q and iPhone 4 to be relaunched on 30 September.

Apple will refer to owners of the defective handsets as "4Q Customers"

Love it! Have a green