Thread: New iPhone - It's Wonderful!

Digglez. Get her this one



and let her have a real phone.

Hi, a request to the mods: Could you merge all of Chupie's various run-on comments in this thread, seeing as how they all seem to be replies to the same post -- would be a shame to litter up the thread with multiple messages that all say the same thing, and have chupie waste the 5 posts a day he is allocated, don't you think? I mean, I'm just trying to help.

As for one of the 'issues' raised by chupie:

Originally Posted by chupacabra

I forgot to share these other screen shots with yawl.

Funny - that's NOT an iPhone error message -- too bad doctoring screenshots is not a jailable offense, or is it?

Originally Posted by chupacabra

You can look up this error in Google regarding Google Voice. It happens when it doesn't find a connection.

... in the section dealing with AT&T connectivity, yes:

No matter the changes, AT&T’s network continues to frustrate. We’ve suffered multiple dropped calls in every day of iPhone 4 use with the US carrier, and as before there’s little apparent connection between what’s shown in the status bar and what the network is actually capable of sustaining.

Finally, regarding the issue of dropped reception due to the external antenna, slashgear seems to agree with most users who don't have an issue:

It’s certainly something we can replicate, though we had to hold the handset in a way we wouldn’t usually do.

Lastly, would you care to explain your apparent multiple personality commenting behavior, as in one thread you do the best you can to tear down a given product, yet in another thread you go about carrying it's torch and lauding it?

Hmmm... I wonder if that has anything to do with your recently acquired humility...?

I don't think so.

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Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

I don't think so.

OWNED.

This is why I don't buy apple products anymore, it's cheap crap made in China sold at a premium, without the convenience and flexibility of an open platform, I mean why bother ?

Apple can't design software right, OSX is a giant disaster as a platform, and it's not the first time they are having major hardware problems with their equipment. Very disappointing. Always wait 1 or 2 years before their products become stable, but of course by then, they will have something new, that will still not work properly, and we are back to square one

it's an endless cycle that could only be maintained with AOL style marketing,

when you rush products for marketing reasons and capture sales, this is bound to happen. MS suffered for years of that same problem, they did it again with VISTA and got fucked badly.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Lastly, would you care to explain your apparent multiple personality commenting behavior, as in one thread you do the best you can to tear down a given product, yet in another thread you go about carrying it's torch and lauding it?

Hmmm... I wonder if that has anything to do with your recently acquired humility...?

I do note an almost desperate avoidance to respond to the above query - I wonder why that is? Maybe because he's 0wned. Not that it matters anymore, as he'll be talking to himself from this point onwards (well, to Butterfly, but there's not much difference, is there..?)

The PROXIMITY SENSOR

The iPhone 4's second Vietnam: the proximity sensor (updated)

The iPhone 4’s second major problem isn’t getting nearly as much attention as the first, but it’s arguably just as bad — because it causes you to drop calls. The only difference is that your face is to blame, not AT&T’s craptastic network.

The proximity sensor in the iPhone 4 is what tells it how close the phone is to your face so that it can turn the touchscreen off while you’re making a phone call. This has the effect of a) saving battery power, and b) preventing inadvertent touches of the screen by your face.

The problem is that the proximity sensor in the iPhone 4 is on a hair trigger. It’s either too sensitive, miscalibrated or both. In over three years of using the iPhone 2G, 3G and 3GS I’ve never accidentally hung up on, muted or put a call on speakerphone while holding it up to my face — not once. Yet I’ve done it a half dozen times on my iPhone 4 over the past weekend.

As I first blogged about in my iLemon post, I frequently put calls on speaker, or accidentally “FaceTime them” or completely hang up on calls altogether because the proximity sensor errantly wakes the screen, which some part of my cheek proceeds to touch.

And I’m not the only one. There are 66 pages of proximity sensor complaints in this one thread alone (which already has over 100,000 views) from iPhone 4 users in Apple’s own support forums.

What bothers me is that the prox bug — which seems to be more related to software than hardware — seems like childsplay compared to the antennae/reception issue. Also, it only affects the i4 and so a fix wouldn’t have to be QA’d for Apple’s other iPhone handsets.

Can’t Apple just dial back the sensitivity on the proximity sensor a couple of notches and release a software update? Why is Apple waiting for a “few weeks” and rolling everything into one massive update when it could probably release a proximity fixes for afflicted iPhone 4 users right now? It seems like a comparatively trivial bug and Apple is making its iPhone 4 customers suffer needlessly in the mean time.

Does your iPhone 4 proximity sensor act up?

Update: A PowerPage commenter reports that Apple is making matters worse by apparently deleting threads on its discussions.apple.com forum related to the prox bug. An example of a deleted thread is after the jump…

And this is what's there:

iphone4_925 posted “Re: Issue with Proximity Sensor during calls” in “Issue with Proximity Sensor during calls” on Jul 5, 2010 6:16:29 PM.

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ramellam wrote:

I took my phone to the Apple store for repair/exchange this evening. The Genius first said that he had not heard of the issue (yeah, right! total lie). I told him there are nearly 70 pages on the Apple Support forum for this exact issue. He immediately dismissed my comment and said, “We typically don’t lend too much credence to support forum posts…” Ok….

Anyhow, the Genius made a call on my phone and, of course, he did not encounter any of the proximity issues I’m having. He gave the phone back to me and said, “There doesn’t appear to be any issues with your phone. You’ll just have to get used to the new Proximity Sensor location on the iPhone 4…” I was like, “Ummm… Huh?” He refused to exchange the phone.

Luckily, I bought my phone from Best Buy on launch day. I immediately went back to Best Buy and the Mobile Phone sales guy said they’ve already had 9 of their 30 launch day iPhones returned due to antenna and proximity sensor issues. He put me on a list to exchange the phone. Luckily, I have 45 days to exchange the phone, since I’m a Best Buy silver rewards card holder…

Anyhow, I’m kinda bummed the Genius refused to help me :-(. He was rather arrogant, too, which really made me mad. Oh well… Back to Best Buy it goes…

That's the typical Apple response. "Look, you're the sort of brain dead twat that's desperate to own one, so don't come running back to us when it doesn't work properly".

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

I do note an almost desperate avoidance to respond to the above query - I wonder why that is? Maybe because he's 0wned. Not that it matters anymore, as he'll be talking to himself from this point onwards (well, to Butterfly, but there's not much difference, is there..?)

I'll be glad to. Just taking it one at a time. Let's deal with this one first.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Funny - that's NOT an iPhone error message -- too bad doctoring screenshots is not a jailable offense, or is it?

It's doctored? I want to hear this explanation.

At least Apple are showing some signs of vague concern for the customers they've let down - well maybe:

Apple is waiving its traditional 10 percent restocking fee for customers wanting to return iPhone 4 handsets, according to Computerworld, which cites an AppleCare support representative as confirming the new policy.

Calls to Apple’s New York flagship store regarding the restocking fee, however, were redirected to a media help line, which was slow to offer a response.

Apple's silence makes it very confusing.

I don't know if it's Apple's silence. When they start censoring their own forums, that's a lot worse than not admitting the problems themselves.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

would be a shame to litter up the thread with multiple messages that all say the same thing, and have chupie waste the 5 posts a day he is allocated

Only five posts a day in the computer forum?

Is that to stop the Mactards from posting themselves to exhaustion?

Good thing we can't get these iPhones here, probably until after all this stuff is fixed....

^ that's all part of Apple's plan, you know ...

Hey guys. Here's a good one

apple found a solution to the new iPhone,

"Unjust enrichment"? I think it's perfectly reasonable that these people are getting fleeced.

interesting reply,