Thread: iPAD vs Tablet PC: Forget the iPAD

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The EP121 looks good, but what's the realistic battery life?

The worst report I've seen was just under 3 hours for someone watching 1080i video- the average seems to be between 3.5-4 hours (with the best cases approaching 5 hours- that's with the screen brightness turned down and bluetooth turned off)- that's plenty of time for me, but it doesn't approach what you can get out of some other tablets.

That's one downside of this gizmo: No replaceable battery, otherwise you could just buy a spare for those long flights where no power socket is available.

Ouch, and I was going to say put an SSD in to extend the battery life, but I see it's already got one.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I think they're all fairly cool but I'm still convinced that most of the functions of the toys are pretty useless. You've got to remember that most of the people who invented them were inspired by Star Trek, not by any desire to make people's lives better.

in a nutshell,

Originally Posted by DrB0b

All those people who get over-excited by every new consumer gizmo are basically being manipulated by weirdos who dress up as Klingons at the weekend.

quite sad, isn't it ? most people are pathetic and need an iPad or iPhone to fullfil their meaningless life

quite sad, isn't it ? most people are pathetic and need an iPad or iPhone to fullfil their meaningless life

Come on then Butters, does it work?

I guess the world I live and work in is different from others. A single Rolodex on one person's desk is not acceptable here. A phone with a 200 contact memory will not cut it. Email only when I am attached to a LAN cable at the office will not do. Marketing is not based on word of mouth alone but on Adwords, blogger's, online reviews and who can communicate the fastest. Post-it Notes for information passing is considered an archaic and unreliable means of communication that is not fast enough anymore. Waiting for a bank statement to arrive in the mail is something only senior citizens do. Many times a brick and mortar storefront is now considered a serious waste of resources that could easily be put to better use elsewhere. Garage sale hosts can even accept credit cards in the front yard on these useless gadgets. Depositing a check from your mobile phone's camera prior to signing the title to the car you just sold over happens all the time now.

The smart people (not me but those who hand the programs, devices, training and tools to do it) are those that can take the ancient technology from 10-20 years back and integrate it into their useless gadget toys. Such as faxing an invoice to the client from your son's football game from your smartphone, eliminating the frivolous task of making that last stop at the office. Or the person who gets their voicemail from the PBX system delivered to them rather than having to check it at their desk or even dial into the "access line" and enter their PIN. Or those that have the follow me service automatically forwarding the important call from your daughter's school on your office line, your home line, your personal mobile and the company mobile when you are on your way to the meeting. How about the bad week when you forgot to cover payroll and you can log in with your ipad and move money from your administrative account to your human resources account while sitting in the traffic jam at 7pm after the banks have closed, thankfully getting done before the the last 4 checks have been cashed.

These useless gadgets are rapidly changing everyone and every business model. Nobody is forcing anyone to adapt, but simply because you or your company's are unable to keep up does not mean everyone who might be a few paces or even 10 years ahead is an obsessed fanboy trekkie freak. The mobile phone analogy is the perfect example and I still see people using 3310's when I go to Mexico or Cuba. That does not mean everyone using them is a technophobe, modern technology simply has no bearing on them and they see no use for it. My dad checks his email on Saturday mornings! Totally unacceptable in a business model. I wish my life could be that so simple that I had the option to ignore basic things like email. Perhaps some day it will, but that will not happen while I am working in this field.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I have some laptops, and smartphones, and various types of Pad somehwhere about. Mostly pretty old now

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I think they're all fairly cool but I'm still convinced that most of the functions of the toys are pretty useless

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I'm fkked if they find out that I'm now working for a little company in Thailand - no more freebies

So let me see, you like getting the latest stuff for free and own a pad and smart phone but anyone who buys it is a stupid, Bob you are a real wanker

The mobile phone analogy is the perfect example and I still see people using 3310's when I go to Mexico or Cuba. That does not mean everyone using them is a technophobe, modern technology simply has no bearing on them and they see no use for it.

You don't think there's an economic issue here then!?

Originally Posted by Rigger

So let me see, you like getting the latest stuff for free and own a pad and smart phone but anyone who buys it is a stupid

Yep. You got it. If you pay money for them you are a fool. If you get them for free then why not? If you can't see the difference between free and paid then you're the wanker, not just a wanker - a sucker. Actually I'd go further, how does it feel to be spit-roasted, rigger?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Yep. You got it. If you pay money for them you are a fool. If you get them for free then why not? If you can't see the difference between free and paid then you're the wanker, not just a wanker - a sucker. Actually I'd go further, how does it feel to be spit-roasted, rigger?

Sorry Bob the I pad was a free bee, so anyone with a new gen phone is a wanker now. Bob its pretty easy to see you are a tool only equiped with half a brain.

^Rigger, you're a nice guy but you don't have enough brain power to light up a half-watt bulb. Give it up. Go play with your toys, we grown-ups have better things to spend our time on.

Now children, play nicely

Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan

I guess the world I live and work in is different from others. A single Rolodex on one person's desk is not acceptable here. A phone with a 200 contact memory will not cut it. Email only when I am attached to a LAN cable at the office will not do. Marketing is not based on word of mouth alone but on Adwords, blogger's, online reviews and who can communicate the fastest. Post-it Notes for information passing is considered an archaic and unreliable means of communication that is not fast enough anymore. Waiting for a bank statement to arrive in the mail is something only senior citizens do. Many times a brick and mortar storefront is now considered a serious waste of resources that could easily be put to better use elsewhere. Garage sale hosts can even accept credit cards in the front yard on these useless gadgets. Depositing a check from your mobile phone's camera prior to signing the title to the car you just sold over happens all the time now.

The smart people (not me but those who hand the programs, devices, training and tools to do it) are those that can take the ancient technology from 10-20 years back and integrate it into their useless gadget toys. Such as faxing an invoice to the client from your son's football game from your smartphone, eliminating the frivolous task of making that last stop at the office. Or the person who gets their voicemail from the PBX system delivered to them rather than having to check it at their desk or even dial into the "access line" and enter their PIN. Or those that have the follow me service automatically forwarding the important call from your daughter's school on your office line, your home line, your personal mobile and the company mobile when you are on your way to the meeting. How about the bad week when you forgot to cover payroll and you can log in with your ipad and move money from your administrative account to your human resources account while sitting in the traffic jam at 7pm after the banks have closed, thankfully getting done before the the last 4 checks have been cashed.

These useless gadgets are rapidly changing everyone and every business model. Nobody is forcing anyone to adapt, but simply because you or your company's are unable to keep up does not mean everyone who might be a few paces or even 10 years ahead is an obsessed fanboy trekkie freak. The mobile phone analogy is the perfect example and I still see people using 3310's when I go to Mexico or Cuba. That does not mean everyone using them is a technophobe, modern technology simply has no bearing on them and they see no use for it. My dad checks his email on Saturday mornings! Totally unacceptable in a business model. I wish my life could be that so simple that I had the option to ignore basic things like email. Perhaps some day it will, but that will not happen while I am working in this field.

Some good points, but not everyone needs to be in contact with a client 24/7. Also, I can't imagine a designer (graphics, web, whatever) doing some serious work at the 'baseball game'.

I bought my phone on purpose. It's a phone, has no touch-screen and while it can do emails and surf the net, I'd rather not.

Each to their own.

rigger is just a fairy and a bargirl with all those phone toys

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I bought my phone on purpose. It's a phone, has no touch-screen and while it can do emails and surf the net, I'd rather not.

A phone with a better interface might change your mind.

I had a Nokia that was a decent phone, and it could do emails/internet surfing, but it was kind of a pain to use, and I rarely bothered doing anything on the net with it- the current generation of smart phones has really raised the bar- they've become incredibly easy and convenient to use, and I find myself doing more on my phone now than I ever did before.

I certainly don't 'need' its capabilities, but they're nice to have when I want them.

I must admit they've fucked pub quizzes up big time. People no longer rely on their knowledge, they just hit wikipedia under the table.

So Smartphones are probably causing dumbness.

Why do people want to be in contact all the time? What's wrong with them that they can't bear to alone with themselves? This constant electronic communication is, after all, relatively new. It's hard to believe that people are dumb enough to voluntarily wear electronic collars and believe that working and being available 24 hours a day is actually a good thing. Tell people that they must be available to the boss and the office 24 hours a day and they'll whinge about slavery, give them a blackberry and tell them not to turn it off and they'll thank you for it. Suckers!

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Why do people want to be in contact all the time? What's wrong with them that they can't bear to alone with themselves? This constant electronic communication is, after all, relatively new. It's hard to believe that people are dumb enough to voluntarily wear electronic collars and believe that working and being available 24 hours a day is actually a good thing. Tell people that they must be available to the boss and the office 24 hours a day and they'll whinge about slavery, give them a blackberry and tell them not to turn it off and they'll thank you for it. Suckers!

I couldn't agree more. The company offered me a top of the range blackberry, and after a few days of it vibrating in my pocket every time I got an email, I gave it back. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Why do people want to be in contact all the time? What's wrong with them that they can't bear to alone with themselves? This constant electronic communication is, after all, relatively new. It's hard to believe that people are dumb enough to voluntarily wear electronic collars and believe that working and being available 24 hours a day is actually a good thing. Tell people that they must be available to the boss and the office 24 hours a day and they'll whinge about slavery, give them a blackberry and tell them not to turn it off and they'll thank you for it. Suckers!

bravo, nice rant

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Why do people want to be in contact all the time?

I never said I want to be in contact all the time. I clearly stated that using technology REDUCES the time I must report to work. Having a capable device and solid connections to networks is how a person can cut their time at work down to 16-20 hours a week. Having ACCESS to your data from anywhere gives you the freedom to be anywhere. I do not answer my phone, respond to an email, voicemail or fax after 3pm. It's about working smarter not making yourself available 24 hours.

Bob are you still spewing crap that no one really wants to hear. If you don't like new gen phones, don't buy one. Pretty simple mate

sent from I phone

Originally Posted by FailSafe

A phone with a better interface might change your mind.

Nope. When I'm at my desk, I can work. When I'm out with the family work can get fucked.