Mac Apps thread

[melvbot]

Some of your problems are caused by running this on a G4

Running what on a G4, Leopard or Snow Leopard?

Considering how cheap intel Macs have become, you may want to consider upgrading your nearly 8 year old Mac

No idea where you get 8 years from

Yeah, sure do -- The finder has them on the left hand sidebar.

Not the sort of tabs Im referring, Im talking about tabs like in FF or Safari

[DaffyDuck]

Some of your problems are caused by running this on a G4

Running what on a G4, Leopard or Snow Leopard?

The G4, and the architecture it runs on, lacks some of the additional features which Leopard takes advantage of on the G5 architecture, and above... Some of which translates into significant speed gains.

Most G4 architecture systems are limited to 1GB of RAM, while Leopard really starts to shine with 2GB of RAM and above, for example.

Considering how cheap intel Macs have become, you may want to consider upgrading your nearly 8 year old Mac

No idea where you get 8 years from

The PPC G4 was introduced in 1999 and lasted until 2003/2004. Since you didn't specify what kind of Mac you had, I went by worst case - otherwise, it'd be nearly 5 years old.

This isn't to mean that it's ready to be shuttered, but that it would be unrealistic to expect the same performance gains, or features support from Leopard that newer architecture, which it supports and is optimized for, does.

The cost of upgrading some sub-systems simply becomes prohibitive, and others (i.e. RAM, bus speed) you simply can't upgrade.

Yeah, sure do -- The finder has them on the left hand sidebar.

Not the sort of tabs Im referring, Im talking about tabs like in FF or Safari

Then what do you want to use them for? Navigation wise, the sidebar performs a very similar function.

[pangsida]

I have been trialing pathfinder and its excellent - the only real bugbear I have about it is that there's no "move to trash" option on the right click menu. If they would just add that one little thing I would actually pay (arrgghhh) for the program - I think it's that good.

Those who don't like Vuze as compared to Azeurus can just operate Vuze in "classic mode" - then it looks the same as the old one but it less of a resource hog.

[Butterfly]

silly question: do they have "Windows Explorer" for Mac, I think it's far more superior product that all those Finder version,

you have to give credit to MS when it's due, in terms if usability they did a far better job than Apple, but again they have much more money and can hire more talents. It's sad that Apple has been lagging for the last 10 years in that department and they didn't keep up with the originality they had in the 80s and 90s

another silly question: can you boot directly into a LIVE CD (Linux) without going through the BootCamp mess ?

[cimboc]

Does anyone have, or can anyone get a hold of a ripped OS X 10.5 (leopard)? I wanted to upgrade sooner rather than later as I have a couple of months of free maps with my Nokia N85 but the Nokia Map Loader is Leopard only and I wanted to upload as much as possible before we come over in June....

Will reward handsomely

**thought I would try in here first as it tends to be us Mac'ers that frequent**

[DaffyDuck]

Does anyone have, or can anyone get a hold of a ripped OS X 10.5 (leopard)?

What's a 'ripped' copy?

You can find an appropriate download of OS X Leopard on pretty much any of the Bays that Pirates land in, I hear - though why not actually buy it, if you're going to use it?

Of course, in Thailand you can just hop on over to Panthip Plaza, and a 100 Baht gets you the Leopard DVD.

[melvbot]

Did the Panthip thing and ended up with more duds than I care to tell you about

Ripped ones off the net had the same result, didnt boot or get recognised.

I ended up getting mine form here

Apple Mac OSX 10.5 Leopard SINGLE LAYER DVD build 9A581 - Best Movie - Download Direct Link - Free Movies - Full Softwares

This is a version with the developer tools etc removed so it should be about 4 gigs, it will burn to a single layer DVD. Its all in seperate .rar files, about 36 of them, so as its done by rapidshare you can download them one at a time. I paid for a few days premium access which was worth it as they cap the amount free users can download at one time.

I takes its time from the boot to getting to the install but it does work.

[DaffyDuck]

Did the Panthip thing and ended up with more duds than I care to tell you about

I always make sure I deal with my regular vendors that will refund or exchange non-working disks. Yes, especially if they are true double-layer disks, it makes it more difficult to properly burn them, unless you have the proper media for your Mac (DVD-R DL - that DVD-MINUS-R DL), and are just using regular Disk Utility to burn with (not Toast, and not just dragging the files over to a burn target, as too many people do).

Either way, precisely because of the new double-layer capacity of OS X, I prefer to just buy one genuine copy every two years.

The other option you should consider, is that instead of burning it to a DVD blank, just grab an 8GB USB memory stick, and *USE DISK UTILITY* to use the RESTORE function to copy the DVD onto the stick -- works like a charm, and installs in 1/10th the time.

[melvbot]

The other option you should consider, is that instead of burning it to a DVD blank, just grab an 8GB USB memory stick, and *USE DISK UTILITY* to use the RESTORE function to copy the DVD onto the stick -- works like a charm, and installs in 1/10th the time.

I think that will only work if youre on an Intel Mac. I tried to use my iPod to do it but PPC's cant all boot from USB, the image was a dud as well. I had an original before I came to Thailand, sold it, went to Panthip for a backup to use in case of emergency which is when the duds started rolling.

[DaffyDuck]

I think that will only work if youre on an Intel Mac. I tried to use my iPod to do it but PPC's cant all boot from USB, the image was a dud as well. I had an original before I came to Thailand, sold it, went to Panthip for a backup to use in case of emergency which is when the duds started rolling.

Sorry, yes, you need an intel Mac system in order to perform USB booting - alternative #2, copy the DVD to an external small firewire drive, and hack the install to work properly (the installer insists on running from a DVD - you need to disable that check).

That way you can also keep a bunch of additional updaters and installers on that emergency drive.

[cimboc]

Cheers guys - some valid and interesting points.

Like you say DD it might be worth just going out and getting the retail version of Leopard from the shop - I think its retailing for about $130.

I will still checkout ya link but melvbot as a have a few DL DVD's sitting in the cupboard.

In the meantime I have someone with a MBP running on leopard who is going to download the program and let me sync my phone to see if the end result is worth all the hassle.

[melvbot]

If youve got a DL burner then great, I think most of the issues are with the single layer 4gig ones.

[Wallalai]

Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.6 4790 bahts at Central Airport Chiang Mai, why not buy a guenine version ?

[DaffyDuck]

Like you say DD it might be worth just going out and getting the retail version of Leopard from the shop - I think its retailing for about $130.

You can find them discounted for as low as $50 - that's in the US, of course.

Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.6 4790 bahts at Central Airport Chiang Mai, why not buy a guenine version ?

Great, and it's the very latest version as well, supporting all hardware up to that point.

[melvbot]

Safari 4 public Beta has been released. Im using it now and I must say it seems pretty quick, only time will tell if it stays that way. Tabs are at the top of the page which makes sense as I hate that page info that sits there for no other reason that to tell you the name of the page you know youre looking at. Coverflow for bookmarks and visual bookmarks when you open a new tab the same a few FF add ons can do.

Apple - What’s new in Safari - See the new features available in Safari 4 Beta for Mac and PC.

[Butterfly]

I was looking for a Windows explorer for Macs, to replace that horrible Finder

not sure if this was mentioned before, but I think I found one, maybe someone has tried already and can recommend it, it's called MacExplorer, will give it a try for the free version

Macintosh Explorer: Tabbed File Browser and File Manager For Mac OS X | RAGE Macintosh Explorer for Mac OS X

[Butterfly]

Thinking about it, that Steve jobs should be shot for pushing his stupid outdated NeXT browser into the Mac User Interface, MacOS9 Finder was at least usable, that OSX simply jumped the shark when it came to user experience,

[DrAdamJones]

Probably been mentioned but....

MPEG Streamclip - for converting video files.

Parallels Desktop - For running windows.. it works great.

[Butterfly]

Macintosh Explorer: Tabbed File Browser and File Manager For Mac OS X | RAGE Macintosh Explorer for Mac OS X

Ok tried that one, even had the crack from MacSerial, not a bad Explorer, a bit better than the current Finder

still not as powerful and convenient to use as WinXP or Win2000, Apple really lost the GUI usability war, but they did win in the pretty GUI contest

[Butterfly]

Tried a few alternatives to Plex, the Media Server for mac

MediaCentral by Equinux
equinux - MediaCentral
Too complex to configure, it seems to be an IPTV app, still very connected to iTunes and all the Apple bloated software, interface not as pretty as Plex. Not really good.

GeexBox
GeeXboX HomePage
Quite nice, will autoboot directly from your CDROM, so no OSX required, so you can use the full internal disk. Can even run on a 1 GB USB memory stick. Interface is a bit lame though, hopefully that will improve soon. Didn't try playing my movies with all the codecs. Plex is still in the lead, much better interface, downloading story summary, thumbnail pics etc... it's like having IMDB.com on your personal DVD player.

[melvbot]

Heres what I use, knocks spots off everything else

Path Finder 5 by Cocoatech

[Wallalai]

silly question: do they have "Windows Explorer" for Mac, I think it's far more superior product that all those Finder version,

You should just sale your Mac mini and buy a PC with a Windows XP copy. Just to save 3 pages of trolls in this thread.

[Butterfly]

^ why ? I love the Mac-mini, it's elegant, well designed, and pretty. Just because OSX sucks and is an inferior product, it doesn't mean I don't like the actual machine.

Just to save 3 pages of trolls in this thread.

You are just another silly Mactard who gets all defensive when they are being told that their beloved OSX is inferior. Maybe try to use a real OS once, you might learn something

[Wallalai]

Maybe try to use a real OS once, you might learn something

Please elaborate and teach me how and which OS to use Monsieur le Professeur.

I wonder why such a genius like you is losing his time in Thailand. You should be the manager of research and development in the Apple or Microsoft office or maybe rewriting the linux kernel ?

The Mactard.

[Butterfly]

^ you don't have to be a genius to know that OSX is just a toy OS for retards,

I guess there is a market for it, Mactard