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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Tigger
    Hope this clarifies my previous posts.
    Not really , though the confusion may be mine .

    I do however thank-you for the attempted clarification .

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
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    . Saddam Hussain, Gadafi, Taliban, maybe Iran in the future.
    Since Hussein never did have WMD other than some stale old mustard gas Rumsfeld gave him from Reagan to wage war on Iran, while he was training Bin Laden to fight Russians- I would have to exclude him from the list.

    Seems US / UK oil / war machinery are way way ahead in the murdering civilians department. Must be hundreds of thousands at this point compared to AQ's measly, what 3- maybe 5000 from 9-11 onward?

    Are we finally now now counting Pakistan as AQ sympathetic , too?
    The US was fighting a proxy war with the Soviets in Afghanistan no different then the Soviets fighting a proxy war with the US in Vietnam.

    Do you really think the Afgans beat the Russians and the monkeys in Vietnam beat the Americans ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    True enough, but this has fuck all to do with the massacre in Norway. Tell us more about the relevance of the Vikings and their "doctrine."
    Nazis were mentioned as the person is associated
    Vikings being root of violence in western culture, Nazism a direct descendent was my point .

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    ^ BS even the UN said he's clean And he was and they found nothing, then , either . Some old aluminum tubes missing critical elements for refining uraniuam was all Feith's " reports " based all that B U L L S H I T on.
    War profiteers should be indicted.
    What gave you that stupid idea ?

    CNN

    Chief United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix on Saturday criticized Iraqi cooperation with inspectors looking for weapons of mass destruction the United States insists Iraq harbors."Iraq has not cooperated sufficiently with the United Nations weapons inspectors, and we will impress the seriousness of the situation to them," Blix said as he arrived at his hotel in Cyprus.In the past, Blix has accused Iraq of leaving many questions about its weapons programs unanswered when it filed a disclosure document on December 7.

    Iraq still not cooperating fully with UN inspectors, ElBaradei TEHRAN, Feb 22 (KUNA) -- IAEA Director General Mohammed El-Baradei said on Saturday that Iraq is not fully cooperating with weapons inspectors.
    "We have not finished our work in Iraq. We are not getting full co-operation from Iraq, but we hope to get it next week," ElBaradei said in a news conference in Tehran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Do you really think the Afgans beat the Russians and the monkeys in Vietnam beat the Americans ?
    Yep, they whooped their asses, a quick word association game for, Embassy, Helicopters, Screaming Fat Americans.

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    ^ #127 Socal Yes, me and 5.9 billion other people think Russa and USA lost most efforts pretty much in every war waged the latter half of 20 th century.
    ( And drove their economies into the ground doing so )

    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Do you really think the Afgans beat the Russians and the monkeys in Vietnam beat the Americans ?
    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    monkeys in Vietnam ..
    I can swear you've berated others for use of this term toward Asians

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
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    The front page of the Sun's first edition has banned "Al Qaeda Massacre".
    Hold the bus there Harry, we don't know for certain yet this piece of white-bread hasn't been in colusion with them pesky Al Quida's or not, eh?

    They are never far away..

    Timothy McVeigh's Middle Eastern cohorts have been solidly identified in dozens of sworn witness statements' firsthand accounts which are corroborated by a methodically assembled investigative dossier. The most incriminating testimony centers around former Iraqi soldier, Hussain Al-Hussaini, whom witnesses place in the company of bomber Timothy McVeigh prior to the blast, seated in the passenger seat of the Ryder truck the morning of April 19, exiting that truck at ground zero, and speeding away from the bomb site in the only getaway vehicle targeted by the FBI in an all-points-bulletin for Middle Eastern suspects. Al-Hussaini has been unable to establish his whereabouts for the critical hours of that fateful morning, and more glaringly, the Justice Department has declined to officially exonerate him of suspicion.
    Oh fuck, have you been watching Fox News again?


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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    ^ BS even the UN said he's clean And he was and they found nothing, then , either . Some old aluminum tubes missing critical elements for refining uraniuam was all Feith's " reports " based all that B U L L S H I T on.
    War profiteers should be indicted.
    True enough, but this has fuck all to do with the massacre in Norway. Tell us more about the relevance of the Vikings and their "doctrine."
    True enough ? Do you remember that UN resolution ?

    United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 is a United Nations Security Council resolution adopted unanimously by the United Nations Security Council on November 8, 2002, offering Iraq under Saddam Hussein "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations" that had been set out in several previous resolutions (Resolution 660, Resolution 661, Resolution 678, Resolution 686, Resolution 687, Resolution 688, Resolution 707, Resolution 715, Resolution 986, and Resolution 1284). [1]


    On November 8, 2002, the Security Council passed Resolution 1441 by a unanimous 15-0 vote; Russia, China, France, and Arab countries such as Syria voted in favor, giving Resolution 1441 wider support than even the 1990 Gulf War resolution.

    The Iraq war was sanctioned by the UN but the politicians involved covered it up. This is all for Wiki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    ^ BS even the UN said he's clean And he was and they found nothing, then , either . Some old aluminum tubes missing critical elements for refining uraniuam was all Feith's " reports " based all that B U L L S H I T on.
    War profiteers should be indicted.
    What gave you that stupid idea ?

    CNN

    Chief United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix on Saturday criticized Iraqi cooperation with inspectors looking for weapons of mass destruction the United States insists Iraq harbors."Iraq has not cooperated sufficiently with the United Nations weapons inspectors, and we will impress the seriousness of the situation to them," Blix said as he arrived at his hotel in Cyprus.In the past, Blix has accused Iraq of leaving many questions about its weapons programs unanswered when it filed a disclosure document on December 7.

    Iraq still not cooperating fully with UN inspectors, ElBaradei TEHRAN, Feb 22 (KUNA) -- IAEA Director General Mohammed El-Baradei said on Saturday that Iraq is not fully cooperating with weapons inspectors.
    "We have not finished our work in Iraq. We are not getting full co-operation from Iraq, but we hope to get it next week," ElBaradei said in a news conference in Tehran.
    Reporter: How do you know Saddam has WMDs?
    Rumsfeld: Because we've got all the receipts.


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    Oh socal you won't convince me from half truths and Sun inspired journ-robo speak.
    You were claiming Hussein's Iraq from 2001-2 pre invasion had WMD and was not cooperating .
    Saddam was was cooperating with al Baradi and he is who was/ is of the opinion Hussein never had WMD.
    None was ever found.
    Whomever is running Iraq , now? Who knows- thanks to US occupation, seems to be anarchy reigning.


    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    ^ BS even the UN said he's clean And he was and they found nothing, then , either . Some old aluminum tubes missing critical elements for refining uraniuam was all Feith's " reports " based all that B U L L S H I T on.
    War profiteers should be indicted.
    What gave you that stupid idea ?

    CNN

    Chief United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix on Saturday criticized Iraqi cooperation with inspectors looking for weapons of mass destruction the United States insists Iraq harbors."Iraq has not cooperated sufficiently with the United Nations weapons inspectors, and we will impress the seriousness of the situation to them," Blix said as he arrived at his hotel in Cyprus.In the past, Blix has accused Iraq of leaving many questions about its weapons programs unanswered when it filed a disclosure document on December 7.

    Iraq still not cooperating fully with UN inspectors, ElBaradei TEHRAN, Feb 22 (KUNA) -- IAEA Director General Mohammed El-Baradei said on Saturday that Iraq is not fully cooperating with weapons inspectors.
    "We have not finished our work in Iraq. We are not getting full co-operation from Iraq, but we hope to get it next week," ElBaradei said in a news conference in Tehran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    Actually Socal,
    In the west i's white men who do most of the mass gun murdering. So by your logic we should round up all the white men and deport them?

    Soc, may I say your policy endorsements are militant feminist at heart ? Interesting.
    Hows the champagne at the victory party ?

    More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)

    19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years. (source)

    Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years. (source)



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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    ^ #127 Socal Yes, me and 5.9 billion other people think Russa and USA lost most efforts pretty much in every war waged the latter half of 20 th century.
    ( And drove their economies into the ground doing so )

    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Do you really think the Afgans beat the Russians and the monkeys in Vietnam beat the Americans ?
    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    monkeys in Vietnam ..
    I can swear you've berated others for use of this term toward Asians
    Haha. You fool

    Who won the real war ? The cold war ?

    And who are all these people that believe you ? George Bush and Tony Blair both got re-elected AFTER the Iraq war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    Actually Socal,
    In the west i's white men who do most of the mass gun murdering. So by your logic we should round up all the white men and deport them?

    Soc, may I say your policy endorsements are militant feminist at heart ? Interesting.
    Hows the champagne at the victory party ?

    More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)

    19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years. (source)

    Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years. (source)


    Pretty good non sequitur there Socal. Take what he said and answer it with something totally irrelevant to his point.

    Fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    Oh socal you won't convince me from half truths and Sun inspired journ-robo speak.
    You were claiming Hussein's Iraq from 2001-2 pre invasion had WMD and was not cooperating .
    Saddam was was cooperating with al Baradi and he is who was/ is of the opinion Hussein never had WMD.
    None was ever found.
    Whomever is running Iraq , now? Who knows- thanks to US occupation, seems to be anarchy reigning.


    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    ^ BS even the UN said he's clean And he was and they found nothing, then , either . Some old aluminum tubes missing critical elements for refining uraniuam was all Feith's " reports " based all that B U L L S H I T on.
    War profiteers should be indicted.
    What gave you that stupid idea ?

    CNN

    Chief United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix on Saturday criticized Iraqi cooperation with inspectors looking for weapons of mass destruction the United States insists Iraq harbors."Iraq has not cooperated sufficiently with the United Nations weapons inspectors, and we will impress the seriousness of the situation to them," Blix said as he arrived at his hotel in Cyprus.In the past, Blix has accused Iraq of leaving many questions about its weapons programs unanswered when it filed a disclosure document on December 7.

    Iraq still not cooperating fully with UN inspectors, ElBaradei TEHRAN, Feb 22 (KUNA) -- IAEA Director General Mohammed El-Baradei said on Saturday that Iraq is not fully cooperating with weapons inspectors.
    "We have not finished our work in Iraq. We are not getting full co-operation from Iraq, but we hope to get it next week," ElBaradei said in a news conference in Tehran.
    The Iraq war was sanctioned by the UN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    The Iraq war was sanctioned by the UN.
    Was it?

    I thought it was just the UN Security Council.

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    Norwegian Police holding fairly generic Press Conference.

    "Will be extensive and long lasting investigation".

    They aren't going to release much at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Hows the champagne at the victory party ? More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source) 19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years. (source) Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years. (source)
    Our resident right wing nutters are still trying to blame this on Islam. They sure have a lot of egg on their faces.

    This pie chart was posted in another thread and is related to America, but shows the rampant paranoia some people have blinding them from the truth.



    Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database

    All Terrorists are Muslims

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    Death toll up to 91. May well reach three figures.

    Sad.

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    ^^ # 142
    That's true, Terrorism in guise of horrific kidnappings , bombings and mass execution is far more likely in S America .

    Socal,
    Islamic terrorists exist of course, they are mean and nasty. I hate them, too .
    But US and UK foreign policies are the basis of their fury and I agree with them the policies are wrong. I don't back terrorism and I don't back US / UK interventionalist foreign wars especially when I believe they are profiteering and do not positively affect a greater common good.

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    Norwegian police appealing to anyone with CCTV footage to contact them.

    A whole new interpretation of Social Networks: Social Spying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Hows the champagne at the victory party ? More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source) 19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years. (source) Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years. (source)
    Our resident right wing nutters are still trying to blame this on Islam. They sure have a lot of egg on their faces.

    This pie chart was posted in another thread and is related to America, but shows the rampant paranoia some people have blinding them from the truth.



    Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database

    All Terrorists are Muslims
    Your pie chart is total fucking bullshit. The reason the Latino's are so high on it was because the FBI used to consider drug turf wars terrorism. Same with the Italian mob hits.

    retard, look who is doing all the killing.

    Muslim attacks on US soil since 1985 (3,098 killed by Muslims in America in 67 terror attacks) So how many have all the other groups killed combined ?
    Last edited by socal; 23-07-2011 at 02:46 PM.

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    internal terrorism is far more present than international terrorism

    I guess we are more tolerant when it's done by our own citizens,

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    So given that 9/11 claimed less than 3,000 lives, you're saying Muslims are responsible for the deaths of around 100 people in more than a quarter of a century.

    And you don't see the flaw in your argument?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPPA View Post
    ^^ # 142
    That's true, Terrorism in guise of horrific kidnappings , bombings and mass execution is far more likely in S America .

    Socal,
    Islamic terrorists exist of course, they are mean and nasty. I hate them, too .
    But US and UK foreign policies are the basis of their fury and I agree with them the policies are wrong. I don't back terrorism and I don't back US / UK interventionalist foreign wars especially when I believe they are profiteering and do not positively affect a greater common good.
    Non interventioanism is why there was a second world war.

    If Bush and Blair where in power at that time, Hitler would have been bombed to shit, just like Saddam. Bush and Blair went against the biggest peace protests in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So given that 9/11 claimed less than 3,000 lives, you're saying Muslims are responsible for the deaths of around 100 people in more than a quarter of a century.

    And you don't see the flaw in your argument?
    Oh so 9/11 doesn't count now or what ? And I was talking just in the US AND I was talking about innocent civilians. Not like that BS pie chart where drug turf wars used to be chalked up as terrorism.


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