Judge approves Assange extradition

**Panty Hamster** · 19-08-2012, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

Ecuador's president has suggested Mr Assange could co-operate with Sweden if assurances are given that there would be no extradition to a third country.

A fugitive Ocker cowering in Ecuador's Embassy in London demanding assurances before surrendering himself to face police questioning in Sweden.

Now that's funny. What a self-important narcissist twat.
Did you notice there's no mention of the USA there?
Nope, not even a hint. Assmange is creating his own personal boogey man. And quite a few TD dillweeds see it too.

**OhOh** · 19-08-2012, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Panty Hamster

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

Ecuador's president has suggested Mr Assange could co-operate with Sweden if assurances are given that there would be no extradition to a third country.

A fugitive Ocker cowering in Ecuador's Embassy in London demanding assurances before surrendering himself to face police questioning in Sweden.

Now that's funny. What a self-important narcissist twat.
Did you notice there's no mention of the USA there?
Nope, not even a hint. Assmange is creating his own personal boogey man. And quite a few TD dillweeds see it too.

You do really need to up your medication.

**buriramboy** · 19-08-2012, 09:08 PM

I don't think Assange's speech is going to do him any favours.

**dobella** · 19-08-2012, 09:10 PM

Did anyone see/bother to watch his performance from the balcony today courtesy of such a liberal/free thinking nation as Equador ?
Fucking hilarious as he finished each paragraph of his carefully selected statements then he waited for the roar of applause. - could have heard a knat fart and that is the weasel performing in front of his adoring supporters.
He did praise most latin american nations though - well known for their tollerance of human rights... what a fucking wanker.

**taxexile** · 19-08-2012, 09:20 PM

those liberals who put up his bail money must be happy.

**alwarner** · 19-08-2012, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

those liberals who put up his bail money must be happy.

ha ha I was thinking about that the other day, I think that Jemima Khan threw in a hundred grand or so. When I make my fortune in dat der London this is going to serve as notice to swerve the old cause celebre.

**Mr Lick** · 19-08-2012, 11:03 PM

Julian Assange urges US to end Wikileaks 'witch-hunt'

Julian Assange has urged the US to end its "witch-hunt" against Wikileaks, in his first public statement since entering Ecuador's London embassy.

He also called for the release of Bradley Manning, who is awaiting trial in the US accused of leaking classified documents to the Wikileaks site.

Mr Assange spoke from a balcony at the embassy and thanked Ecuador's president, who has granted him asylum.

He faces extradition to Sweden over sexual assault claims, which he denies.

The 41-year-old said the United States must also stop its "war on whistleblowers".

He added: "The United States must vow that it will not seek to prosecute our staff or our supporters.

"The United States must pledge before the world that it will not pursue journalists for shining a light on the secret crimes of the powerful.

Mr Assange also said the United States was facing a choice between re-affirming the "revolutionary values it was founded on" or "dragging us all into a dangerous and oppressive world in which journalists fall silent under the fear of prosecution and citizens must whisper in the dark".

**Daft Old Cat** · 19-08-2012, 11:29 PM

Julian Assange? More like "Jesus! Anal gain"

**Panty Hamster** · 19-08-2012, 11:32 PM

Complete nutjob. Wikileaks is not journalism. He has visions of martyrdom.
Maybe the fooking moron will slit his wrists.

Brit courts are regretting the day they let this turd loose. Someday they'll learn the value of custody.

He's been on bail running around Britain since 2010 -- and no extradition request from the US during all that time ... Hmmmm.

**dobella** · 20-08-2012, 12:56 AM

^ This heroic martyr (well he thinks he is anyhow), is costing the UK taxpayer
£ '000s each day.
I hope the Foreign office is looking into ways to recoup this money by suing the slimy government of Equador, where freedom of speach and disidence is so valued and championed.

**kingwilly** · 20-08-2012, 02:10 AM

Gee, just listen to the champions of freedom, justice and the american way speak. Makes one wonder why Assange doesn't want to go there.

**PlanK** · 20-08-2012, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

freedom, justice and the american way

I think that was Superman.

Good thing he's dead. Must be rolling in his grave. (That would explain all the earthquakes, though!)

**kingwilly** · 20-08-2012, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Plan B

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

freedom, justice and the american way

I think that was Superman.

Good thing he's dead. Must be rolling in his grave. (That would explain all the earthquakes, though!)

Or it's because of the flourine.

**PlanK** · 20-08-2012, 02:47 AM

^

Nasty stuff that.

flourine is just urine flo, reversed. And they're putting that in the water supply!

I think that's what makes the nutters think that promoting character assassination of a whistle-blower is a viable argument to what our wayward governments get up to these days.

**OhOh** · 20-08-2012, 06:49 AM

Another report from a Swedish source which has detailed information on the initial the inept police investigations, prosecutor shenanigans , unsigned witness statements and media reporting after the event.

For those interested, it is available at :

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/suspicious.pdf

**OhOh** · 20-08-2012, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by dobella

Fucking hilarious as he finished each paragraph of his carefully selected statements then he waited for the roar of applause. - could have heard a knat fart and that is the weasel performing in front of his adoring supporters.

The intimidating police presence, for the occasion of a balcony speech

He must have something on quite a few people.

**OhOh** · 20-08-2012, 08:12 AM

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**Latindancer** · 20-08-2012, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Another report from a Swedish source which has detailed information on the initial the inept police investigations, prosecutor shenanigans , unsigned witness statements and media reporting after the event.

For those interested, it is available at :

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/suspicious.pdf

I've only read 14 pages so far, but it's very interesting to see the ordinary everyday details, and how things get blown up out of proportion, particularly when prosecutors and police get involved.

**Panty Hamster** · 20-08-2012, 03:29 PM

This is a rape case. The suspect fled TWO countries. It's nothing to do with Wikileaks.

Assange almost certainly would have done NO jail time if he had not jumped bail. He most certainly WILL now. What a first-class dork.

Makes one wonder why Assange doesn't want to go there.

He's a criminal now, ignorant criminal Ockers are not welcome!

Besides, he's pissed off William Hague and the boys, he'll likely be shacked up for a stretch in a dungeon somewhere. Hague should be fired for his incompetent mishandling of this case. If he wasn't a loudmouthed know-it-all, he might've taken a page out of America's playbook and merely observed, let Assmange hang himself. Oh no, that simply wouldn't do ... gotta play the tough guy...

**larvidchr** · 20-08-2012, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Another report from a Swedish source which has detailed information on the initial the inept police investigations, prosecutor shenanigans , unsigned witness statements and media reporting after the event.

For those interested, it is available at :

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/suspicious.pdf

Some of you lot are having the Mother of woolly hats pulled over your eyes

Let's argue the Swedish sex-crime case and it's merits once all the players are in the hands of the proper authorities to deal with it, for now it is about Assanges strange refusal to clear his name and go to Sweden.

You keep ignoring the official facts of the case and time-line as thoroughly investigated and published by the British supreme court, and repeatedly post highly biased, and unverified by any real evidence, suspect blogosphere crap as gospel.

The most hapless timeshare scam sales person would have sold you a whole block of flats in 15 min flat.

Assange went to Sweden in the first place to seek residence permit

, he had found after extensive research that Sweden with it's strong stance on freedom and human rights and some of the strongest laws protecting Journalists, would be the perfect place for him to stay protected from the US and a place where wikileaks servers could operate safely.

As it happened the Swedes did not want him, and suddenly after the sex allegations Sweden has become the most dangerous place in the world for Assange, a Sweden where all the protections he based his original application for residency on, all those advantages and protections have suddenly vanished like dew in the Sun

Next we have the fact that Sweden cant extradite Assange to the US without British approval, so where is the logic in the US not already having asked for Assanges extradition in Britain thus avoiding any possible complications in Sweden?......... You are right there is no logic

well done, because Assange is brazenly lying there is no greater risk for him getting extradited from Sweden than the one he has been in all the time he was happy to stay in Britain, because the Brits have the final say on any extradition anyway

Finally in the line of facts, there still is no extradition request from the US, after years of the US Government's best legal minds trying to find some US law they could use to justify a warrant for Assanges arrest on foreign soil, they have found none so far, so the likely-hood that they will later is very little, and again then it would be up to the Brits.

So any speculation about any extradition to the US is so far pure fantasy, secondly it would not be a Swedish decision to make since any extradition ultimately would have to be approved in Britain, so the danger for Assange in Sweden is no greater than the one he he has been in all the time in Britain.

You freedom fighters, who will stand up for the oppressed and persecuted, when will you stand up in disgust and dismay, over the way Assange is mis-using Asylum and the plight of real persecuted people to pull of this con.

Assange is worried about one thing only and that is getting convicted as a sex-offender, everything else is blatant lies and deceit, his misuse of international safeguards and terms created for the protection of people in real life-threatening plight from murderous dictators and terrorist states, is just about the lowest and most despicable theatre I have seen, this con and the man Assange is way beyond loathing and reprehension, he has truly developed into a prominent member of the Scum of the earth.

**Latindancer** · 20-08-2012, 04:48 PM

Having read a lot of this article,

Originally Posted by OhOh

Another report from a Swedish source which has detailed information on the initial the inept police investigations, prosecutor shenanigans , unsigned witness statements and media reporting after the event.

For those interested, it is available at :

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/suspicious.pdf

I tend to agree with Larvidchr that Assange is worried about one thing only and that is getting convicted as a sex-offender.
But not that he is guilty or a loathsome creature etc. I think what happened (and others may agree after reading that article) is that things get blown up out of proportion when the police and officials get involved. Though the two women may have also got wound up about it when they discovered he was two-timing them.

Something a little similar happened in Australia years ago when Lindy Chamberlain was accused of killing her baby. The police were over-zealous and were convinced of her guilt (rather than her story of a dingo taking the baby) so they downplayed certain aspects and overplayed others. She was later exonerated.
Assange seems to be playing the extradition card to avoid overzealous authorities prosecuting him, as he may well get jail time for years.
I think what is revealing is that if the US wanted him they could have previously asked Britain to extradite him. This is the bare fact and the elephant in the room.
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**Tom Sawyer** · 20-08-2012, 05:30 PM

The guy was suckered into a honey trap by a CIA agent. End of story.The next 'revelation' will probably be video of him with one or both women. You can't imagine how badly the Americans want this guy.

**larvidchr** · 20-08-2012, 05:46 PM

^
Paranoid conspiracy rubbish Tom

if that was the case the Swedes would expose it and there would be hell to pay for the US, they would never risk that for the sake of Assange, there are so many ways they could get to him with much less risk of international outrage and diplomatic chaos.

^^
As I said the pdf from Nordic news network is a biased opinion pice from a US hostile organisation, not anywhere near a Journalistic neutral dissection of the known facts.

It is packed with factual misrepresentations, undocumented assumptions, undocumented conspiracy theory's and personal connections and undocumented perceived personal opinions and political motives.

It is a conspiracy paper in line with the most fancy full we have seen here on TD and worth as much.... or little if you like.

And the fact is that it is usually media who blow criminal cases out of proportion and not the system, single mistakes in difficult to prove cases from around the world with very different courts-systems cant directly in any fair way be projected to the Swedish system and this case in particular LD

I think we should trust the Swedes Judicial system to handle this case unbiased and correctly and according to Swedish law, they are well known for having extensive protections for the accused, and rigorous demands to evidence, absolutely no sense of humour, and doing things strictly by the book, further more their prison sentences belongs to the shortest in the world, what would buy you 10-15 in the US would probably often relate to 1-2 years in Sweden.

If I had to chose where to be accused of a crime I would definitely choose a Scandinavian country, highest standard of police investigative procedures and tools, high on legal safeguards and rights of accused, possibility of appeal several times, short sentences, 3 star hotel prisons with own room private bath and toilet, 5 min. minimum response time on a cell call, legally guaranteed fresh air every day, own tv/radio in each cell, extensive prison programs to alleviate boredom, your teeth and other ailments fixed for free once there, little prison violence etc. etc. etc.

So the mental picture they try to paint in peoples heads, of Assange ending up in a Deer Hunter Vietnam like tiger-hole could not be further from the truth

We might disagree with the extensive protection of women and principle in the Swedish law, but just like when we are here in Thailand, we cant argue that it is OK to break said law when we are guests in a Country, and that not knowing or disregarding because we do not agree, is no valid excuse and our own personal responsibility.

**OhOh** · 20-08-2012, 06:32 PM

Is there an Ecuadoran embassy in Sweden

The US have refused to confirm or deny if they have an extradition request ready and waiting or confirm that they wont issue one whilst Assange is in Sweden, easily fixed.

This appears to be Assange main fear. If the whole business is purely the sexual molestation affair give Assange that and he has no right not to go back.

As for the pdf report, as always the issues raised to some may be trivial but remain the bedrock of a civilised country. Once lost, as we see with the statement that the UK, by announcing it will storm embassies, will abrogate it's commitment to an international treaty adhered to by most countries, anarchy reaps the bounty.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

So the mental picture they try to paint in peoples heads, of Assange ending up in a Deer Hunter Vietnam like tiger-hole could not be further from the truth

Unfortunately the truth is that those situations have been proven to exist and are being used frequently not only by "banana republics" but also by "civilised" countries. The reliance of trusted legal and constitutional safety nets has already been lost, as well you know.

**buriramboy** · 20-08-2012, 06:39 PM

Assange will crack soon anyway, the Ecuador embassy is only a 2 room apartment with no garden so probably worse than being in prison.

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