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    Socialist, not communist. Big difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    Socialist, not communist. Big difference
    Retard and Fuckwit, small difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Socialist, not communist. Big difference
    From The Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary..
    capitalism

    noun ˈkępɪtəlɪzəm ˈkępɪtəlɪzəm



    an economic system in which a country's businesses and industry are controlled and run for profit by private owners rather than by the government
    the growth of industrial capitalism in the West

    socialism

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    a set of political and economic theories based on the belief that everyone has an equal right to a share of a country's wealth and that the government should own and control the main industries

    communism

    noun
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    1 a political movement that believes in an economic system in which the state controls the means of producing everything on behalf of the people. It aims to create a society in which everyone is treated equally.2 Communism the system of government by a ruling Communist Party, such as in the former Soviet Union
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    Quote Originally Posted by dobella
    If i have read this right then you are suggsting that if you have been raped then you 'just need to on with it' - fantastic piece of advice to your daughters.
    No wonder parenting has gone south in the last 2 generations.
    You have misinterpreted my statement, but hey what's new.

    Quote Originally Posted by dobella
    He could have started world war 3, and probably would have had a wank about it.
    Along with many others heads of governmanets around the world who actually threaten countries and invade countries illegally, but hey what's new.

    You have also not understood that Assange is not wanted in Sweden for Rape, but again whats new.

    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    oHoH that is a rather poor translation
    It were hylighted as a paw translation. I hav a buton whic ascs if I wont it trnslated and pooshed the button. I think the joust of it was redible.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    You have misinterpreted my statement, but hey what's new.
    Oh Oh, I am willing to apologise if you give me your version of the 2 girls have
    'To Get On With It'.
    Maybe i did read you wrong but it certainly sounded like you were supporting an accused sexual criminal.

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    The reported story, not mine, indicates that the two girls got together, some time after the alleged sexual molestation. One of the girls is reported to have CIA links. The two girls go the police to ask for a HIV test, as opposed to a sexual health clinic.

    The police take details and pass the info on to a swedish prosecutor who rules to drop any case.

    The MSM either receive details or are prompted by an unknown person to re-examine the story. A bright political prosecutor re starts the investigation. It snow ball from there with more and more conspiracy possibilities.

    The fact that two girls had sex with one guy, at different times, is not in my mind a life threatening experience and as such they should get over the alleged sexual misconduct and get a life. In my youth girls were on the pill for "mensuration regularity/flow" reasons and fucked like rabbits.

    Of course now there is no teenage promiscuity/they all use condoms/ they are expert at BJs and into anal.

    Please don't reply with any further analysis of my opinion as it doesn't matter to me, the two girls, Assange and probably most on this board one iota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobella
    an accused sexual criminal.
    I suppose some would find not using a condom a crime, some would find not pulling your dick out of her mouth a crime, some using her arse a crime.

    I dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Please don't reply with any further analysis of my opinion as it doesn't matter to me, the two girls, Assange and probably most on this board one iota.
    Ok, i have digested your view and let it go at that.
    It is all political anyway and we have no say in the outcome but i hope Assange gets raped in the US for being a cocky, above any law and letting personal details out that COULD cause serious damage to world relations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    You have also not understood that Assange is not wanted in Sweden for Rape
    So , the two ladies later stuck their heads together, and discovered that he didn't use a condom with either of them

    Still they slept with him on several occasions

    That's it, isn't it ?


    Has Sweden ever handed over people to countries with a death penalty ?

    Were these people executed ?


    Unfortunately yes to both

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    The Girls did not go to the Police for a HIV test of themselves oHoH you got that one wrong but to ask if Assange could be forced to take one, when questioned why they wanted that the Prosecutors eventually decided to interview Assange as a suspect in Rape and sexual molestation.

    And Assange is not charged since they have had no chance to do the interviews necessary to present him with a formal charge, but he is wanted and ordered arrested by several Swedish Judges as a "Suspect of Rape and 2 counts of sexual molestation" and I'll happily bet you a beer that he will be charged and jailed.

    If he eventually will get a conviction? I have no idea, that will have to be sorted out in Sweden.

    And oHoH i hope you understand even if a sexual relation starts as consensual, if at a point one part asks you to stop and you carry on by force, it is rape no matter how you try to twist it, sex is only consensual as long as both party's still agree on having sex, if you do not understand this you might be in for a very nasty surprise suddenly. You are not setting the rules the law is.

    ^ and you are not telling the whole story there Helge, are we talking about returned asylum seekers or captured terrorists in Afghanistan perhaps or similar.
    Last edited by larvidchr; 19-08-2012 at 04:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    and you are not telling the whole story there Helge, are we talking about returned asylum seekers or captured terrorists in Afghanistan perhaps or similar.
    Does it matter ?

    You and me do still have principles ?

    They properly was scum of the earth

    146 is the number, do your own digging, you lazy c,,t !

    The swedes ain't proud of this one (well some of them ain't; not all is rosy in Gamla Fria )

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    and you are not telling the whole story there Helge, are we talking about returned asylum seekers or captured terrorists in Afghanistan perhaps or similar.
    Does it matter ?

    You and me do still have principles ?

    They properly was scum of the earth

    146 is the number, do your own digging, you lazy c,,t !

    The swedes ain't proud of this one (well some of them ain't; not all is rosy in Gamla Fria )
    Yes of-cause it matters Helge, and thanks now I don't have to look since you have given the answer by not answering and I can continue being a lazy c,,t it is my hobby and what I do best these days.

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    ^^ do you actually realise how scary that comment is Lardy? Different laws for different people, what a mockery of the entire underpining of the western legal framework.

    You are making judgments about the person as justifications for extraditing them to the US and you can be sure that the US considers him to be worse than an international terrorist and thus it is perfectly alright to send him there for possible execution.

    Quote Originally Posted by dobella View Post
    but i hope Assange gets raped in the US for being a cocky, above any law and letting personal details out that COULD cause serious damage to world relations.
    And this is the elephant in the room that the likes of Lardy are refusing to acknowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    Yes of-cause it matters

    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    you have given the answer by not answering
    And the answer is ?


    They were Balts handed over to the Soviets

    They are dead, mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    oHoH you got that one wrong
    Along with some other aspects in my life.

    But yesterday has gone, tomorrow never comes, live for the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    ^^ do you actually realise how scary that comment is Lardy? Different laws for different people, what a mockery of the entire underpining of the western legal framework.

    You are making judgments about the person as justifications for extraditing them to the US and you can be sure that the US considers him to be worse than an international terrorist and thus it is perfectly alright to send him there for possible execution.

    Quote Originally Posted by dobella View Post
    but i hope Assange gets raped in the US for being a cocky, above any law and letting personal details out that COULD cause serious damage to world relations.
    And this is the elephant in the room that the likes of Lardy are refusing to acknowledge.
    You do not even understand my comment or you would not have made this post Willy.

    There can be indeed very distinct differences on refused Asylum seekers with no invite that have entered your country illegally, and is sent back to what was mistakenly and in good faith thought to be reasonable safety in their homeland, if that is what Helge is on about ??, to even debate the issue we would have to know the whole story.

    But it is no way near the same as a criminal forcefully brought to Sweden and jailed, and then later with law in hand deliberate and knowingly extradited to a death sentence in a foreign nation, and any speculation that this could happen to Assange is pure unadulterated untrue rubbish.

    And don't even try to wipe other posters views of on me Monkeyarse, just stick to what I have posted if you must comment on my posts, still don't expect to get an answer from me, I rarely if ever take you seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    Yes of-cause it matters

    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    you have given the answer by not answering
    And the answer is ?


    They were Balts handed over to the Soviets

    They are dead, mate
    Answer? - as I correctly guessed completely unrelated to the issue.

    An old Historic event , sure has a lot of bearing on todays Assange case and how Swedish extradition rules is applied today.

    Lots of sad stuff happened in History and no countries is probably free from having committed hideous crimes or made terrible mistakes in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dobella
    i hope Assange gets raped in the US for being a cocky, above any law and letting personal details out that COULD cause serious damage to world relations.
    Why not start out with the board and editors of the New York Times ?

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    It's all historic, Lars

    But it goes to show that countries with a policy of 'never hand over to countries where a death penalty is possible', can be pressured to do just that.

    You are aware of the current case DK versus India ?


    I don't think the swedes wants him in the first place

    It would create hell for them the day they got the the extradition request from the US

    A lose lose for the swedes

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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    ^^ do you actually realise how scary that comment is Lardy? Different laws for different people, what a mockery of the entire underpining of the western legal framework.

    You are making judgments about the person as justifications for extraditing them to the US and you can be sure that the US considers him to be worse than an international terrorist and thus it is perfectly alright to send him there for possible execution.

    Quote Originally Posted by dobella View Post
    but i hope Assange gets raped in the US for being a cocky, above any law and letting personal details out that COULD cause serious damage to world relations.
    And this is the elephant in the room that the likes of Lardy are refusing to acknowledge.
    You do not even understand my comment or you would not have made this post Willy.

    There can be indeed very distinct differences on refused Asylum seekers with no invite that have entered your country illegally, and is sent back to what was mistakenly and in good faith thought to be reasonable safety in their homeland, if that is what Helge is on about ??, to even debate the issue we would have to know the whole story.

    But it is no way near the same as a criminal forcefully brought to Sweden and jailed, and then later with law in hand deliberate and knowingly extradited to a death sentence in a foreign nation, and any speculation that this could happen to Assange is pure unadulterated untrue rubbish.

    And don't even try to wipe other posters views of on me Monkeyarse, just stick to what I have posted if you must comment on my posts, still don't expect to get an answer from me, I rarely if ever take you seriously.
    So that's a no then?

    Anyway I think you've drunk enough tonight Lardy, even taking your language skills into account you're still not making sense.

    But tell me, why are you so convinced that the US considers him no ill will?

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    That is all too difficult for the good people here. Could you somehow include Spice Girls into this? With photos, if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Socialist, not communist. Big difference
    From The Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary..
    capitalism

    noun ˈkępɪtəlɪzəm ˈkępɪtəlɪzəm



    an economic system in which a country's businesses and industry are controlled and run for profit by private owners rather than by the government
    the growth of industrial capitalism in the West

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    noun
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    a set of political and economic theories based on the belief that everyone has an equal right to a share of a country's wealth and that the government should own and control the main industries

    communism

    noun
    ˈkɒmjunɪzəm ˈkɑːmjunɪzəm



    1 a political movement that believes in an economic system in which the state controls the means of producing everything on behalf of the people. It aims to create a society in which everyone is treated equally.2 Communism the system of government by a ruling Communist Party, such as in the former Soviet Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post

    But yesterday has gone, tomorrow never comes, live for the moment.
    Works for the Thais.

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    Tomorrow never dies, is a good Bond movie.

    Hey, just trying to lighten this up.

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    This case has nothing to do with the USA.
    As much as some here are desperate to make it so, it just isn't the case.

    Lunatics abound.

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    ^ I suspect Assange would be thinking very differently atm.

    Get ready...........


    Julian Assange expected to make statement





    Julian Assange is expected to make a public statement later on the diplomatic row that has engulfed him since being granted asylum by Ecuador.

    Wikileaks says its founder will speak outside the Ecuadorean embassy in London, where he has taken refuge.

    He faces extradition to Sweden over sexual assault claims, which he denies.

    Ecuador's president has suggested Mr Assange could co-operate with Sweden if assurances are given that there would be no extradition to a third country.

    Australian Mr Assange, 41 - whose Wikileaks website has published a mass of leaked diplomatic cables embarrassing countries including the US - first walked into the embassy in Knightsbridge, asking for protection, two months ago.

    Mr Assange entered the embassy after the UK's Supreme Court dismissed his bid to reopen his appeal against extradition and gave him a two-week grace period before extradition proceedings could start.

    It is established international protocol that local police and security forces are not permitted to enter an embassy, unless they have the express permission of the ambassador.

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