Miracles can happen.

**ItsRobsLife** · 14-01-2011, 08:49 PM

Pope John Paul II who died in 2005 is one step closer to sainthood after performing a miracle from beyond the grave. I saw this story on the BBC news and the newsreader said 'it is difficult to prove if it was a miracle, but.. '

Difficult to prove, but not beyond the realms of possibility then, I'm convinced.
Great to see the BBC continuing to promote stone age superstition as legitimate modern doctrine.

Pope Benedict XVI has formally approved a miracle attributed to his late predecessor, paving the way to John Paul II's beatification on 1 May.

The process of beatification, or declaring the late pontiff to be "blessed", is a crucial step towards making him a saint.

John Paul II died in 2005 after a papacy of nearly 27 years.

The Vatican credits him with the miraculous cure of a nun said to have had Parkinson's Disease.

Church officials believe that the Polish pope, who himself suffered from the condition, interceded for the miraculous cure of Sister Marie Simon-Pierre, a Frenchwoman in her late forties.

She has said her illness inexplicably disappeared two months after John Paul II's death, after she and her fellow nuns had prayed to him.

Church-appointed doctors agreed that there was no medical explanation for the curing of the nun, although last year there were some doubts about the validity of the miracle.

Sister Marie Simon-Pierre (centre right) attends a ceremony in San Giovanni Basilica in Rome, 2 April 2007 Sister Marie Simon-Pierre (centre right) said her life had begun over again after her cure

A Polish newspaper said that a doctor who scrutinised the nun's case had concluded that she might have been suffering not from Parkinson's, but from a nervous disorder from which temporary recovery is medically possible.

Up to a million people are expected to gather in Rome for the beatification.

Mourners at John Paul II's funeral on 8 April 2005 chanted: "Santo subito!" - or "Make him a saint right now!"

The following month, Pope Benedict put him on a fast track to sainthood by dispensing with Church rules that normally impose a five-year waiting period after a candidate's death before the beatification procedure can start.

Work is under way in St Peter's Basilica to make space for John Paul II's tomb since, in accordance with tradition, the remains of popes who are beatified are moved up from the crypt to the nave.

"John Paul II's coffin will be moved in St Peter's Basilica from the Vatican crypt without being opened," said Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi.

His body will not be displayed but placed in a tomb under a simple marble stone reading "Beatus Ioannes Paulus II" (Blessed John Paul II).

In order for John Paul II to be canonised as a saint, a second miracle would have to be verified following the beatification.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12191423

Ok people start praying...

**BobR** · 14-01-2011, 09:05 PM

I'm no longer Catholic, but I actually had some respect for John Paul. This new clown is a disgrace.

**Bower** · 14-01-2011, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by BobR

I'm no longer Catholic, but I actually had some respect for John Paul. This new clown is a disgrace.

I never was a christian or anything else but i too had some respect for John Paul.

**Marmite the Dog** · 15-01-2011, 12:00 AM

All the popes will rot in Hell if there's any truth the the lies they spout.

**The Muffinman** · 15-01-2011, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife

Pope John Paul II who died in 2005 is one step closer to sainthood

Doubt his rotting corpse would give a fuck one way or the other.

Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife

A Polish newspaper said that a doctor who scrutinised the nun's case had concluded that she might have been suffering not from Parkinson's, but from a nervous disorder from which temporary recovery is medically possible.

Simple mistake to make.

Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife

In order for John Paul II to be canonised as a saint, a second miracle would have to be verified following the beatification.

I'm sure they'll come up with something.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

All the popes will rot in Hell if there's any truth the the lies they spout.

Yup, amen to that.

**Thaidan** · 15-01-2011, 05:22 AM

For lots of people is that important.

**billy the kid** · 15-01-2011, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

All the popes will rot in Hell if there's any truth the the lies they spout.

but Hell was a lie also.
guess he was the better of an evil bunch.

**Butterfly** · 15-01-2011, 07:09 AM

The popes were technically the legal representatives of Aliens on Earth, and Kings were the son of Aliens

Christianity is a story of an Alien, jesus, who inspired a group of people for better things

that really didn't work too well at the end,

**billy the kid** · 15-01-2011, 06:48 PM

even more disturbing is the fact
that maybe no such person ever existed.
took 400 years for someone to
put pen to paper and talk about
a guy called jesus.

**sunsetter** · 15-01-2011, 07:58 PM

jaysus!! what a load of bollix!!

**Norton** · 15-01-2011, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

The popes were technically the legal representatives of Aliens on Earth, and Kings were the son of Aliens Christianity is a story of an Alien, jesus, who inspired a group of people for better things

Originally Posted by sunsetter

jaysus!! what a load of bollix!!

Just the jaysus bit or the whole lot.

**sunsetter** · 15-01-2011, 08:10 PM

^ the whole sheebang !!

**Marmite the Dog** · 15-01-2011, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by billy the kid

took 400 years for someone to put pen to paper and talk about a guy called jesus.

Go and re-read your history books. I'm not saying that Jesus actually existed, just that you're talking bollocks.

**sunsetter** · 15-01-2011, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by sunsetter

bollix

said that didnt i....

**ItsRobsLife** · 15-01-2011, 10:12 PM

Jesus was a black guy and a stoner in my book.

The issue here is that 'officially' miracles do exist and that idea is promoted by the mainstream media.

**billy the kid** · 16-01-2011, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by billy the kid

took 400 years for someone to put pen to paper and talk about a guy called jesus.

Go and re-read your history books. I'm not saying that Jesus actually existed, just that you're talking bollocks.

there is no evidence to show he actually existed
just a load of hairy fairy scary stories (ie history !!)
mumbo jumbo

which part is bollix?

**geoff** · 16-01-2011, 06:44 AM

Performed a miracle from beyond the grave.???? What a crock of shit. !!!

**Marmite the Dog** · 16-01-2011, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by billy the kid

which part is bollix?

The 400 years bit.

Most of the New Testament was probably written between 50 & 100 years after Jesus' death and the Old Testament is of course, much older than that. It's probably true that the collation of the bible was around 400 years ago.

Originally Posted by billy the kid

there is no evidence to show he actually existed

I agree.

**The Muffinman** · 16-01-2011, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Most of the New Testament was probably copied from a bunch of other religions between 50 & 100 years after Jesus' death

Fixed for you

**kmart** · 16-01-2011, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by billy the kid

which part is bollix?

The 400 years bit.

Most of the New Testament was probably written between 50 & 100 years after Jesus' death and the Old Testament is of course, much older than that. It's probably true that the collation of the bible was around 400 years ago.

I think the Roman Emperor Constantine is credited for the finalized New Testament in about the 3rd Century AD.

**Marmite the Dog** · 16-01-2011, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by kmart

I think the Roman Emperor Constantine is credited for the finalized New Testament in about the 3rd Century AD.

Nope. It was finished about 50 years after he died. Also, he didn't really care about what was in the bloody thing, only that it was used as a tool to unify warring factions within the empire.

**billy the kid** · 16-01-2011, 07:22 PM

think they slipped in the resurrection
around 300 ad as an after-thought.
back in the old days
many women who gave birth to 'GODS'
had birth canals
that were a one-way street.

**robuzo** · 16-01-2011, 08:08 PM

I was disappointed that the pope who followed John Paul was not called George Ringo.

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