Two in three Americans support Assange's US arrest and trial

**billy the kid** · 20-12-2010, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by who

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I am surprised at the number of anti-American Brits there are on this board.

,,,, no no no, we only meant the merikin goverment. foxy news.
didn't we guys ?
ahem.
anyway it's more like 'anti-merikin everywhere else on the planet'.
at the moment.

**hunter** · 20-12-2010, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by who

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I am surprised at the number of anti-American Brits there are on this board.

**StrontiumDog** · 20-12-2010, 09:05 AM

Bangkok Post : US seeks legal pursuit of 'hi-tech terrorist' Assange: Biden

US may pursue Assange

Published: 20/12/2010 at 12:01 AM
Online news:

The US Justice Department is exploring a legal pursuit of Julian Assange, said Vice President Joe Biden, who described the WikiLeaks founder as a dangerous "high-tech terrorist."

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange speaks to journalists from his car as he arrives back at Ellingham Hall in Ellingham, Norfolk, on Saturday after visiting Beccles Police Station to comply with bail requirements. The US Justice Department is exploring a legal pursuit of Julian Assange, said Vice President Joe Biden, who described Assange as a dangerous "hi-tech terrorist."

"We're looking at that right now," Biden told NBC's Sunday talk show "Meet the Press," but the vice president stopped short of elaborating on just how the administration could act against the head of the organisation whose release of thousands of classified US diplomatic cables has enraged Washington.

"I'm not going to comment on that process."

When asked whether he thought Assange was a high-tech terrorist or a whistleblower akin to those who released the Pentagon Papers -- a series of top-secret documents revealing US military policy in Vietnam -- Biden was clear: "I would argue that it's closer to being high-tech terrorist."

Legal pressure has been been building steadily on WikiLeaks and Assange, who is in England fighting extradition to Sweden, where he faces sexual assault allegations.

Assange said Friday it looked "increasingly likely" that the United States would try to extradite him on charges related to the leaked cables.

A report by congressional researchers found the Espionage Act and other US laws could be used to prosecute the 39-year-old Australian hacker, but there is no known precedent for prosecuting publishers in such a case.

A group of US senators early this month introduced a bill to make it easier to target the self-described whistleblowing website by making it illegal to publish names of informants serving the US military and intelligence community.

Media reports suggested that US prosecutors are trying to build a case against Assange on the grounds that he encouraged US Army Private Bradley Manning, currently in US custody, to steal American cables from a government computer and pass them to WikiLeaks.

Assange has denied knowing Manning.

Biden appeared to leave the door open for charges against Assange.

"If he conspired to get these classified documents with a member of the US military, that's fundamentally different than if somebody drops (documents) on your lap here, (saying) 'You're a press person, here is classified material.'"

In a legal case, the United States would seek to show Assange's responsibility for damage to national security, but legal experts have said the path to prosecution is strewn with legal complications, including constitutional free speech protections.

Biden insisted WikiLeaks "has done damage" through its documents dump.

"Look, this guy (Assange) has done things that have damaged and put in jeopardy the lives and occupations of people in other parts of the world," Biden said.

In particular, he acknowledged that among world leaders concerned over the leaks, "there is a desire now to meet with me alone rather than have staff in the room."

**Jools** · 20-12-2010, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by khang

This is a FOX poll. To participate in this poll, you must qualify as follows:

Live in a trailer;

Have less than half of your teeth;

Have no more than a grade school education;

Have a couple of your children that call your wife Grandma, and rightfully so.

Believe that you are really FREE.

And most of all, be proud to be a Merican, and have the luxury of all of the above.

**Humbert** · 20-12-2010, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

"If he conspired to get these classified documents with a member of the US military, that's fundamentally different than if somebody drops (documents) on your lap here, (saying) 'You're a press person, here is classified material.'"

This is the key phrase. I really doubt that he believes that Wikileaks 'conspired' to get classified documents but he needs to be very careful how he words his public statements because the subject of Wikileaks is a political minefield.

**Mid** · 20-12-2010, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

may

who does write the headlines for the post ?

**Vientianeboy** · 20-12-2010, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Mid

Two in three Americans support Assange's US arrest and trial over 'Wikileaks cablegate'
Washington, Dec 18

A new poll has found that two of out three Americans are in favour of the arrest and trial of whistleblower website WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange in the United States.

According to a Fox News poll released on Friday, 66 percent voters said that “the owner of the website” who received and leaked the classified US diplomatic cables should be arrested and put on trial.

When the focus was placed on the person who “stole and leaked the information,” the feeling is even stronger, as 83 percent favour arrest and trial, the report said.

Americans are far less harsh in their judgment of news organizations that published the leaked information, as only 38 percent would push for punishment of those media outlets.

Opinion Dynamics Corporation conducted the national telephone poll for Fox News among 900 registered voters on December 14 and 15.

The poll has a three-point error margin.

--ANI

newkerala.com

Show how ignorant the average septic is. On what charges should he be arrested? Most probably don't even know that he didn't steal any information and also that he isn't even a US citizen, but Australian and not subject to US laws for offences not committed on its territory.

**OhOh** · 21-12-2010, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Vientianeboy

but Australian and not subject to US laws

You can't be serious, you mean US laws and attitudes don't apply to the rest of the world.

**who** · 21-12-2010, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by pickel

Originally Posted by who

I am surprised at the number of anti-American Brits there are on this board.

So you're saying that the 34% of Americans in the poll that disagreed with the idea of putting Assange on trial for a crime that doesn't even exist are anti-American as well????

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An expert on American laws are we ?
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**Jools** · 21-12-2010, 02:46 AM

Show how ignorant the average septic is. On what charges should he be arrested? Most probably don't even know that he didn't steal any information and also that he isn't even a US citizen, but Australian and not subject to US laws for offences not committed on its territory.

Rumor has it that the Yanks borrowed an idea from the Thais, namely that its laws apply world wide.

**pickel** · 21-12-2010, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by who

An expert on American laws are we ?

Tell me what law he has broken?

And my point was how sensitive Americans call anybody that criticizes their gov't anti-American. Does that include Americans who criticize their gov't?

**Jools** · 21-12-2010, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Originally Posted by BobR

Not that Britain or Europe are any less screwed up.

The difference is most Brits know and realise the UK is fucked.

It may be fucked, Dog, but still one of the better places on the globe in which to live.

**sabang** · 21-12-2010, 04:39 AM

It's taking them an awful long time to come out with any charges.

**dirtydog** · 21-12-2010, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Vientianeboy

Show how ignorant the average septic is. On what charges should he be arrested? Most probably don't even know that he didn't steal any information and also that he isn't even a US citizen, but Australian and not subject to US laws for offences not committed on its territory.

Tell that to Viktor Bout.....

**Mr Gribbs** · 21-12-2010, 06:40 AM

First off this poll is a load of shit, most people I know don't even know what wikileaks is, let alone give a fuck about it. It's a big story amongst the internet geeks who have no lives. The leaks have been a huge dud, the big diplomatic cables were a bunch of gossip, nothing earth shattering there. Assanage is the one saying he is going to be arrested for treason and stupid shit like that, not the US. He is doing it to make himself look like a martyr, and more importantly make himself money. To the fucking morons saying "what could he be fooking charged with," ever hear of conspiracy? The real loser in this is the idiot Manning (I think he is a queer too), who is looking at life in prison. The only way he will be able to get a break is to testify against Assange, who it seems played a bigger role then was first thought.

**blue** · 21-12-2010, 06:46 AM

manning is a big poofter, should they be let in the military ?
he's the answer

**rickschoppers** · 21-12-2010, 08:39 AM

No worries...........they are just upset with their own countries and are happy to bash someone elses to keep the heat off. Just grow a thicker skin and you will be fine.

**Mr Gribbs** · 21-12-2010, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

No worries...........they are just upset with their own countries and are happy to bash someone elses to keep the heat off. Just grow a thicker skin and you will be fine.

Indeed, their viciousness shows their inferiority complex. I love it, let them stew in it.

**spliff** · 21-12-2010, 10:07 AM

Assmunch needs to be killed. Period.
It is time to start treating spies and traitors like spies and traitors. this kid-glove “slap on the wrist” approach to “punishment” for such things is getting old.
But then again, that’s just what the Obamanation wants. They want such incredible outrage from the people that the people will willingly give up freedoms and allow incredibly harsh laws to be passed in order to stop some evil person. Which sounds all fine and dandy until the US Govt. then turns and starts to use it on it’s own people.

**Marmite the Dog** · 25-12-2010, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by spliff

Assmunch needs to be killed.

Why? For publishing proof that your government are a bunch of lying, murdering terrorists?

**FlyFree** · 25-12-2010, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by spliff

Assmunch needs to be killed. Period.
It is time to start treating spies and traitors like spies and traitors. this kid-glove “slap on the wrist” approach to “punishment” for such things is getting old.
But then again, that’s just what the Obamanation wants. They want such incredible outrage from the people that the people will willingly give up freedoms and allow incredibly harsh laws to be passed in order to stop some evil person. Which sounds all fine and dandy until the US Govt. then turns and starts to use it on it’s own people.

There's an old saying that as long as you keep your mouth shut, people can only *suspect* that you're an idiot.

Yeesh. When will the Merkins learn to stop making such total fools of themselves. It used to be the Merkin Govt., but nowadays it seems every blue-blooded Merkin has to stand up and do the idiot act.

The fuckin ship is sinking. Helloooooo...... Running around shouting idiocies ain't gonna help. Time to get your fuckin brains into gear, if you can still find them.

In God We Trust.

I wouldn't......

**KAPPA** · 25-12-2010, 03:26 PM

^^
And this is different somehow from other nation's governance?
Seems the UK is just as guilty.
Most, if not ALL governments have ceased to function in the citizenry's best interests and have been corrupted thoroughly. Assange and other whistle blowers are champions of liberty.

**FlyFree** · 25-12-2010, 03:34 PM

^Who the fuck was talking about other nation's governance. That is the weakest of retorts, pointing to others to somehow make it better. Usually reserved for the lost.

I'm not talking about the Merkins idiot govt. I'm talking about the Merkins. Something I never used to do, but since 9/11, it is becoming harder and harder to find a Merkin with a functioning brain. Yea I know, there are exceptions. They seem scarcer than hen's teeth these days.

**harrybarracuda** · 25-12-2010, 03:56 PM

I reckon if Wikileaks published the entire Bush family private accounts and where the money came from, the rednecks would still not believe they are being royally fucked up their collective arses.

Idiots.

Tip: Watch "Inside Job".

**Marmite the Dog** · 25-12-2010, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by KAPPA

Seems the UK is just as guilty.

Yes. And?

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