^ ^
Oh, it was a number 1, not a number 2, like i originally thought.
Wikileaks knows that already though.
^ ^
Oh, it was a number 1, not a number 2, like i originally thought.
Wikileaks knows that already though.
Girl No 3 surfaces as the story of the 'seducer' Assange's week in Sweden grows ever sleazier
More to it: WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's week in Sweden has become even sleazier with the revelation that he seduced a third girl
Julian Assange seduced a third girl in the same week he bedded two women at the centre of sex assault allegations, it was claimed yesterday.
The self-assured WikiLeaks boss allegedly stole her from under the nose of an American journalist as they all dined together at a Stockholm restaurant.
It was just two days before he had sex with Miss A, one of his two accusers, and five days before he bedded the second, Miss W.
One of Miss A’s friends later claimed to police: ‘Not only had it been the world’s worst screw, it had also been violent.’
Assange, whose whistleblowing website is dedicated to publishing confidential material, has spent the weekend enduring other people leaking information about him.
From his bail address, the manor house Ellingham Hall on the Norfolk/Suffolk border, flamboyant Assange is vowing to continue his quest to publish 250,000 secret U.S. diplomatic cables that have been shaking the world.
Yesterday an American reporter said the day Assange arrived in Sweden, Wednesday, August 11, he went out to dinner at Stockholm’s Beirut restaurant with the WikiLeaks Swedish co-ordinator, the co-ordinator’s girlfriend, and the journalist and his English girlfriend.
The journalist claims Assange, 39, ignored him and instead focused intently on his girlfriend, even following her out for a cigarette. He said: ‘When they hadn’t come back after 45 minutes I went to see what was happening.
‘They were standing very close together a little way down the street, and Julian was whispering in her ear.’
The journalist later saw his girlfriend and Assange walking hand in hand, and claimed that when he challenged the WikiLeaks founder, ‘he dropped into a classic fighter’s pose, with his fists up’.
He said: ‘Assange seemed to take pleasure in humiliating me.’ The writer slept alone that night.
Assange went on to meet Miss A and Miss W, both of whom he is accused of molesting.
Double trouble: Miss W has said that she was 'half asleep during sex' with Julian Assange, whilst Miss A, has told how Assange ripped her clothes off
The leaks supremo has found the tables turned after somebody disclosed the contents of the previously unseen Swedish police file containing the assault allegations against him.
Assange strenuously denies any wrongdoing. He faces being extradited to Sweden in the New Year to face trial, after being arrested in London on behalf of the Swedes and sent to prison on remand. He was released after nine days by the High Court last Thursday, on condition he lives at Ellingham Hall, owned by his supporter Vaughan Smith.
His backers are convinced the case is a conspiracy by the U.S. government, which is desperate to find a way to bring him to justice. Yesterday, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden branded Assange a ‘high-tech terrorist’ and revealed officials were exploring ways to prosecute him in America.
Yet it has been suggested the Swedish police would never have become involved in the first place if Assange had only agreed to an HIV test.
WikiLeaks’ Swedish co-ordinator, who knows Assange and his two women accusers, said: ‘The two women told me, that if he goes to the clinic for an HIV test, then we won’t go to the police. I told him, “Just do it, and anyway, it’s good for you, because you’re sleeping around”.’
Read more: WikiLeaks boss Julian Assange's week in Sweden grows ever sleazier | Mail Online
Poor bugger. Didn't have the courage to fight for his root. No wonder she dumped him for Assange.
And had to sleep alone that night. Oh, the humiliation he must have suffered knowing that his girl probably had Assanges cock in her mouth while he lay alone in his bed.
This story just keeps getting even better.
and in doing so he has outed himself as a luddite fcukwitOriginally Posted by crippen
Reminiscent of the reds under the beds campaign back in the '50s and 60's.
These blokes trying to stir up a lynch mob of nationalistic paranoia are the real enemies of the people.
Unfortunately, most of the American public are easily taken in by such false displays of nationalistic pride.
he should have shagged them in the ass, I am sure there wouldn't have been any complain as they wouldn't have noticed the missing condom
just my 2c,
To be fair it's not just the Americans in this case.Originally Posted by Panda
Shagged 3 different birds in one week so far, sod Pattaya, lets goto Sweden![]()
Forthcoming wikileak
"Joe Biden likes it up the arse"
Why Assange May Have a Case to Answer in Australia, Despite What the AFP Says (or, Why Julia Gillard Might be Right)
Posted on December 18, 2010 by Don Anton
1. Yesterday (17 December 2010), the Australian Federal Police (AFP) announced that it had not identified any breach of Australian law by Wikileaks or Julian Assange. ABC News (Australia) reported that the AFP issued the following statement:
“The AFP has completed its evaluation of the material available and has not established the existence of any criminal offences where Australia would have jurisdiction,” the force said in a statement released today.
“Where additional cables are published and criminal offences are suspected, these matters should be referred to the AFP for evaluation.” See also: Media Statement: Finalisation of WikiLeaks referral - Australian Federal Police
Importantly, the AFP did not conclude that no offences have been committed by Assange or Wikileaks – just that on the available material there do not appear to be offences under Australian law that have been committed by Assange or Wikileaks.
2. Naturally, I do not have access to evidence of any sort, but this conclusion by the AFP seems at odds with what is a matter of public record and certain aspects of the Australian Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth) relating to telecommunication services. Let me start this analysis by acknowledging that I am no expert in Australian criminal law and that my thoughts have largely been informed by discussions with colleagues who are experts. However, in looking at section 474.14 of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth) in particular, it seems on the face of things that there is indeed a plausible case for Assange and Wikileaks to answer in Australia.
3. Consider the basic facts as reported by the media (which, of course, always has to be approached with circumspection).
4. It has been alleged that Assange and Wikileaks obtained classified information of the U.S. Government through U.S. Army Private Bradley Manning. According to the New York Times:
Manning, an Army intelligence analyst, is suspected of disclosing more than 260,000 diplomatic cables, more than 90,000 intelligence reports on the war in Afghanistan and one video of a military helicopter attack — much of it classified. . . .
In an online chat in May, Private Manning described having downloaded the documents from a military computer system; he described them as including “State Department cables from embassies and consulates all over the world.” In an online discussion with Adrian Lamo, a computer hacker, Private Manning said he had delivered the cables and other documents to WikiLeaks. Mr. Lamo reported Private Manning’s disclosures to federal authorities, and the analyst was arrested and charged with illegally leaking classified information. Private Manning faces a possible court-martial and, if convicted, a lengthy prison term.
5. The New York Times also reports that in:
an online chat log . . . Private Manning is said to claim that he had been directly communicating with Mr. Assange using an encrypted Internet conferencing service as the soldier was downloading government files. Private Manning is also said to have claimed that Mr. Assange gave him access to a dedicated server for uploading some of them to WikiLeaks.
Wired magazine has published excerpts from logs of online chats between Mr. Lamo and Private Manning. I recognise that hearsay might be a problem here without direct testimony from Manning. However, Assange’s general modus operandi may be seen in his complaint reported by ABC News (Australia) about the electronic monitor he has to wear as a condition of bail: “it means no secret meetings with government sources“.
6. Wikileaks has recently changed its submission page, perhaps in realisation of the potential application of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth). Again, from the New York Times, 2 days ago:
WikiLeaks is taking steps to distance itself from the suggestion that it actively encourages people to send in classified material. It has changed how it describes itself on its submissions page. “WikiLeaks accepts a range of material, but we do not solicit it,” its Web site now says.
It also deleted the word “classified” from a description of the kinds of material it accepts. And it dropped an assertion that “Submitting confidential material to WikiLeaks is safe, easy and protected by law,” now saying instead: “Submitting documents to our journalists is protected by law in better democracies.”
7. Prior to this change in its submission page, Jeffrey Smith, a partner at the Arnold & Porter law firm and former general counsel of the Central Intelligence Agency from 1995 to 1996, observed on the PBS Newshour that Wikileaks and Assange:
solicits people on his Web site . . . to submit classified documents or secrets. So, in some respects, he’s inducing others to violate the law.
8. Wikileaks was described by Assange, himself, in a New Yorker interview in June 2010. It was reported that:
[Assange said,] “We are not the press.” He considers WikiLeaks an advocacy group for sources; within the framework of the Web site, he said, “the source is no longer dependent on finding a journalist who may or may not do something good with his document.”
Assange . . . emphasized to me that his mission is to expose injustice, not to provide an even-handed record of events. . . .
Assange does not recognize the limits that traditional publishers do. Recently, he posted military documents that included the Social Security numbers of soldiers, and in the Bunker I asked him if WikiLeaks’ mission would have been compromised if he had redacted these small bits. He said that some leaks risked harming innocent people—“collateral damage, if you will”—but that he could not weigh the importance of every detail in every document.
9. All of this brings us to section 474.14 of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth). Section 474.14 provides in pertinent part:
474.14 Using a telecommunications network with intention to commit a serious offence
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if:
(a) the person:
(i) connects equipment to a telecommunications network; and
(ii) intends by this to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, an offence (whether by that person or another person); and
(b) the offence is:
(i) a serious offence against a law of the Commonwealth, a State or a Territory; or
(ii) a serious offence against a foreign law.
(2) A person is guilty of an offence if:
(a) the person uses equipment connected to a telecommunications network in the commission of, or to facilitate the commission of, an offence (whether by that person or another person); and
(b) the offence is:
(i) a serious offence against a law of the Commonwealth, a State or a Territory; or
(ii) a serious offence against a foreign law.
10. A few initial points. First, subsection 1 requires proof of intent to commit an offence. Subsection 2 does not require proof of intent other than the intent to use equipment connected to a telecommunications network (see sections 5.2(1) and 5.6(1) of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth)). However, it is arguable that the phrase “to facilitate the commission of, an offence” includes by implication an intent that the facilitated offence be committed – this would be in line with the Code’s analysis of inchoate crimes (e.g. see s11.4(2) and s11.5(2)). Second, facilitation of the commission of an offence alone is enough to constitute an offence under either subsection 1 or 2. Third, it is enough that the offence be a serious offence against foreign law so long requirements of double criminality are met – ie, it would also have been a crime in Australia if the offence had been committed in Australia (see section 473.1 of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth)). Fourth, under s474.14(4), absolute liability attaches to the physical element that the offence is a serious offence against Commonwealth, State, Territory or foreign law – meaning that the prosecution has no obligation to prove that the person had any knowledge, belief or intention with respect to this element, and that even a mistaken belief that the conduct constituting the facilitated offence was not illegal would provide no defence.
11. Turning to details, I suspect that it is 474.14(2) that is most relevant subsection. Based on the press reports above, it seems that it might be reasonably alleged in Australia:
a. that Assange/Wikileaks has used “equipment connected to a to a telecommunications network”. A telecommunications network is defined in section 474.1 in relation to the definition in section 7 of the Telecommunication Act 1997 (Cth) and clearly includes the internet. In the New Yorker Article, Assange asserts that Wikileaks “maintains its content on more than twenty servers around the world and on hundreds of domain names”. This is clearly equipment connected to a telecommunications network. Moreover, the intent to use this equipment, as connected, in order to distribute content is manifestly apparent.
b. that (at least until very recently) Assange/Wikileaks has actively sought, through the explicit solicitation on its submissions webpage, the submission of classified government documents regardless of whether they have been obtained legally or illegally. In the instant case it was reported by NBC News that Harold Koh, the U.S. State Department’s Legal Advisor, wrote to Assange to advise him that the classified documents received from Manning were obtained illegally (under U.S. law) before Wikileaks made the diplomatic cables public.
c. that the facilitation of the commission of an offence by another person can reasonably be seen in the active solicitation by the Wikileaks submission page of classified governmental information and documents.
d. that the offence by another person (Manning in particular) in this case is a serious offence against foreign law. Under section 473.1 of the Criminal Code Act of 1995 (Cth) conduct that gives rise to a serious offence against foreign law must also be such as to give rise to a serious offence against a law of Australia, had the conduct occurred in Australia rather than elsewhere. A serious offence against a law of Australia is one that is punishable for a period of up to 5 years in prison. The offences related in the next paragraph are all punishable for periods over 5 years in prison.
e. that the serious offence against foreign law meets the double criminality requirement of section 473.1 of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth). Manning has been charged under the Uniform Code of Military Justice with, inter alia, unauthorized copying of classified information relating to national defence to his personal computer, unauthorized possession of this information, and the unlawful transfer of this information to a person not entitle to receive it, with reason to believe it could be used to injure the U.S. Similar offences are found in section 58 the Defence Force Discipline Act 1982 (Cth) and section 79 of the Crimes Act 1914 (Cth).
12. Accordingly, it seems if evidence were sufficient that a reasonable case might be put under section 474.14 of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth).
13. As a matter of jurisdiction, it appears that the extended geographical jurisdiction of section 15.1 of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth) applies: see s475.2:
Section 15.1 (extended geographical jurisdiction–category A) applies to each offence against this Part.
If the conduct constituting the alleged offence has occurred wholly outside of Australia, then jurisdiction will not be established unless one of the other bases in s15.1 can be established. With respect to Wikileaks, this may be difficult to establish (more needs to be known about its corporate structure if any) but with respect to Assange, it is sufficient that he was an Australian citizen at the time of the offence: see s15.1(1)(c)(i).
Don Anton teaches international law at the Australian National University College of Law.
Lets get to the meat of the matter......Originally Posted by Thaihome
Jees he shagged 3 girls, what a erm, sleaze bag/lucky git.Originally Posted by crippen
Mmm... the print media also publishes on line these days. Perhaps they are all guilty of a heinous crime?
And note the esteemed expert in international law bases his legal opinion on articles published in the New York Times. Something I doubt the AFP would have considered as factual evidence that could be presented in a court of law.
The author was basing part of his opinion on the content of the article and the hypothetical assumption it might be true, i.e. did Assange indeed solicit the material from Manning. The evidence, admittedly from published sources, seems to indicate he might have done so. The chat records do exists and the entire transcript has not been published as it will likely be used in Manning’s trial.
The author also used Wiki leaks own page, since changed, to show they were soliciting material, and specifically classified material.
But, there is no need for you to get all defensive about this, after all the author is allowed to express his opinion, even if you don’t agree with it, correct?
TH
Its a legal opinion from a so called expert in international law.
To carry any weight it needs to be based on factual evidence rather than assumptions gleaned from a foreign newspaper.
^^ A criteria you only expect with material that you don't agree with.
The author makes a plain disclaimer that it is his opinion and does not make the asssertion that it is a formally "legal" one. He is entitled to publish that opinion, isn't he?
TH
Last edited by Thaihome; 22-12-2010 at 10:30 AM.
Assange is no accredited Journalist anywhere, and as such can not call on the special protection Journalists enjoy domestically when it comes to publish material deemed to have significant public interest.
The difference is that Accredited and Free lance Journalists is connected to a domestically legally responsible news-media organization who publishes their material, they are as such subject to possible court injunctions and domestically libel laws, they are also subject to domestic criminal law ect. and can as such be forced to reveal their sources if a court demands it, or chose to face prison. And those legalities or liabilities is in-force whether the news organization publish on the net or in the printed press. They can by court orders be shut down or be forced to print retractions and excuses ect.
On top of that most Journalists is members of Journalist organizations with certain ethical rules for responsible reporting and source confirmation ect.
Assange and wikileaks did not follow any of those honored guidelines that covers the work of the accredited press and helps facilitate that we indeed can have a free and unhindered press. And therefor it is just rubbish to compare Assanges actions with proper Journalism and the rights of a free press.
Those of you who scream that as long as an action is jotted down as Journalism, it is to be completely free from any legal liabilities or responsibilities, are loosing the plot completely, that has nothing to do with freedom except for the Journalists to hurt anyone they please without ever being made accountable. And that kind of anarchy has nothing to do with good democracy either or accepting the principles of elections and majority rule.
And those that thinks the only way to keep checks and balances on Governments is through illegal actions by Journalists being accepted, have another thing coming, other Countries than the US have parliamentary oversight committees that have access to every single paper and action any Government agency preform, those committees represent the majority of the population and the political opposition, and it works surprisingly well, there are constant cases even with politicians private doings, the press only help spreading the word to a broader audience but the checks is preformed not in public media and the gutters, but after the laws of the land and democratic principles in the political and juristic system.
Wikileaks sole existance on the net with no special Country connection ect. is quite obviously a hole in several Country's laws on the media area, so it is a legal loophole that so far has ensured that no charges have been brought to bear on Assange and Wikileaks, like you finding a legal loophole to defraud someone, just because the hole is there it does not mean that what you have done is not immoral, wrong and goes against the intent and spirit of the laws governing the area. So to all intents and purposes you are still a crook but just a crook that it is hard to throw in prison.
Wikileaks did not check the material with international news media prior to release in the case of the Iraq papers or the Afghanistan papers, and was rightly so criticized from also Amnesty and Reporters without borders, inside wikileaks that approach lead to some of the more responsible leaving the organization in protest.
Later Wikileaks have attempted to whitewash themselves by changing the procedure and the way they are cooperating with the real media, but only because of tremendous pressure, not because that was how they originally intended to carry on, now it is changed a situation that have made Reporters without borders change the tune and take in Wikileaks on trial so to speak and are mirroring their site.
Wikileaks have received stolen goods period,
Wikileaks is making money on said stolen goods period.
Wikileaks advertised/asked for stolen goods/secrets on their website before and offered active help in form of secrecy and cover, thus encouraged and facilitated crime period.
Whether any of those quite obvious crimes can be connected to Assange in person is another matter, they almost literally have to prove that Assange hit the keys on the keyboard himself, or find written instructions that can be proved to come from Assanges hand, or witnesses that will confirm above actions in a courtroom, none of which is easy given the nature of the net, first then if they can prove any of the above ie. Assanges personal actions then they can proceed with other charges like espionage ect. that present their own huge legal problems.
But the ones of you consistently claiming that Assange/wikileaks have done nothing illegal is doing so disingenuously, you can say that the illegalities is OK because of the public interest in divulging government procedures that you find wrong, but none of you can claim that you do not know- that using anything stolen from others for personal gain, that be moneywise or not- is a crime, as is actively encouraging and facilitate crime.
I'm privately OK with people defending Assange and Wikileaks from a personal political viewpoint's in the press and on forums that is a good and valid debate, but not with people suddenly not knowing the difference between stolen goods or rightful acquired property, just because it suits their stance on a ideological higher issue.
Assange is a megalomaniac who took his chances and eventually will have to pay the piper, but the cat is out of the back and that is something else entirely, whether that in reality is going to change anything in the long run apart from more I-net restrictions I don't know, but I honestly doubt it very much.
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Labor suffers in WikiLeaks backlash
December 18, 2010
Support for the federal opposition has surged ahead of the government, the latest Morgan poll has found.
The coalition has overtaken the government for the first time since the federal election in August, according to the poll, published yesterday.
Support for the coalition is up four per cent since the start of December, with 51.5 per cent on a two-party preferred basis.
Labor Party support is down four per cent at 48.5 per cent, the face-to-face poll conducted last weekend found.
The poll was conducted at the height of the WikiLeaks controversy, fuelled by Prime Minister Julia Gillard's assertion that the actions of Australian Julian Assange, the web site's founder, were illegal.
According to the poll, if a federal election was held now the coalition would win government.
The Labor Party primary vote is 38 per cent (down 2.5 per cent) behind the coalition at 43 per cent (up 2.5 per cent).
Support for the Greens and independents remained unchanged.
watoday.com.au
How's them apples Gillard ?![]()
^^^ Thats a rather long rant there Larv.
You appear to be saying that while what Assange and Wikileaks has done is not illegal, it is immoral. Well many millions of people around the world would disagree with you there about the immoral bit. In fact most people would agree that politicans feeding the public and the media lies is immoral and welcome the exposure of such deceit.
Assange asks Australian PM to bring him home
5/02/2011
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has called on Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard to bring him home just days before he faces an extradition hearing related to sexual assault allegations.
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, pictured in January 2011, has called on Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard to bring him home just days before he faces an extradition hearing related to sexual assault allegations.
Australian-born Assange, on bail in Britain while fighting extradition to Sweden, is due in court in London on Monday.
Swedish prosecutors want to question the 39-year-old about allegations made by two women that he sexually assaulted them, but he insists the attempt is politically motivated and linked to WikiLeaks' activities.
In a video posted on the Sydney Morning Herald website, Assange called on Gillard to support him.
"There has been outrageous and illegal calls to have me and my staff killed, clear cases of incitement to violence. Yet the Australian government has condoned this behaviour by its diplomatic silence," he said.
"Julia Gillard should be taking active steps to bring me home and to protect our people. She should be contacting the US embassy and demanding that it back off."
Assange, a former hacker who has released classified documents about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and from US diplomats stationed around the world, said he could not wait to be back in Melbourne.
In his video message, which the Herald said was made for Melbourne supporters, he also criticised the Australian government over East Timor.
"It would appear that the Labor government today is doing what Labor did in 1975 regarding East Timor -- talking about human rights while trying to downplay attacks on journalists.
"Because you and I should be in no doubt of one thing. We are a media organisation. I am a publisher and I am a journalist."
The WikiLeaks founder is currently under US criminal investigation over the leaking of hundreds of thousands of secret military reports and diplomatic cables.
On Sunday he detailed a plan to release a deluge of secret documents should the whistleblower website be permanently shut down.
bangkokpost.com
Poll shows Julian Assange would be real chance of election in Australia
May 19, 2012
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JULIAN ASSANGE IS POPULAR WITH GREENS VOTERS AND WOULD STAND A GOOD CHANCE OF BEING ELECTED IF HE WERE TO RUN FOR PARLIAMENT.
AP
CONTROVERSIAL WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange stands a real chance of winning an upper house seat in his native Australia if he presses ahead with plans to stand for election, a poll shows.
A survey conducted by the ruling Labor party's internal pollsters UMR Research and published in the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper showed 25 per cent of those polled would vote for the whistleblowing website chief.
Supporters of the left-wing Greens party were most likely to be pro-Assange, with 39 per cent saying they would vote for him, meaning he had a good chance of wresting a Greens Senate spot, UMR's John Utting told the newspaper.
"There is clearly a significant level of support for Julian Assange which crosses party lines and is more concentrated amongst Greens voters," he said.
"At this stage Julian Assange stands a very real chance of being elected to the Senate should he run." Some 27 per cent of Labor supporters said they would vote for him, as did 23 per cent of conservatives, in the survey of 1,000 voters.
Assange unveiled plans to run for Australia's 76-seat Senate in March, vowing to be a libertarian and "fierce defender of free media" were he elected to the upper house.
He is reportedly considering a range of options, including standing as an independent, seeking an alliance with a party, or establishing his own party devoted to advancing open government.
Though Australia goes to the polls every three years Senators serve a six-year term, so only half the Senate comes up for contest during national elections for the lower House of Representatives -- next due in 2013.
WikiLeaks has also said it will also field a candidate to run directly against Prime Minister Julia Gillard in her lower house electorate of Lalor, Melbourne.
Assange is under house arrest in Britain awaiting judgment from the Supreme Court in London on whether he can be extradited to Sweden for questioning over allegations of rape and sexual assault.
Supporters fear if he is surrendered to Sweden he will be sent on to the United States to be charged over the leaking of hundreds of thousands of top-secret US diplomatic memos on his whistleblowing website.
heraldsun.com.au
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