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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    for the establishment to take control over the net
    maybe you can explain the technical details of how this is to be achieved ?

    does the DNSSEC update contain some sneaky one world govt routing control ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by dobella View Post
    These leaks are not harmless, they identify weakspots, very attackable in the free world.
    Free speach fine but not at any cost.
    Mate,-- terrorists specialize in identifying vulnerable targets. Its their job. They dont need Wikileaks to tell them where to hit. If you believe that shit you probably believe Saddam had WMDs too.

    This whole effort to shut Assange up is over exposing our politicians as liars and spin artists deceiving the public rather than any real physical security risks.
    Panda,
    I am caught in a quandary here, the theiving scheming liars who run as politicians in the UK should be exposed and some of them (not many) have been.
    Great that this corruption has been taken to legal cause.
    Assange, and his crew overstep the mark, certain things are out of limits with the data protection etc.
    I am a member of the BNP in the UK, my personal choice of political persuasion.
    My home adress, phone number and other personal details are now on wikileaks website for all to see, i get bombarded by left-wing activists with junkmail every day.
    WIKILEAKS SUCK.
    I have to wonder how Wikileaks got hold of your name and address?
    Was it through the secret US diplomatic cables or some other unrelated source?
    Due to senior disillusioned, trusted staff effectifully mounting a coup against the leadership, they were expelled.
    They are still right wing smpathisers, but out of spite sent all our details to Wikileaks.
    Not violently myself, others have, been subjected by this personal data exposure.
    Julian wants to know where you are tommorow, with who, asking about how much you like him/her. ?
    He has the site to throw it up, FUCK WICKILEAKS..

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    Well dobella[at]ihatewogs.com you choose to allow your info to go on someone elses computer, as I keep saying, the world isn't ready for peoples personal info to be stored on computers, let them learn about computers first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Well dobella[at]ihatewogs.com you choose to allow your info to go on someone elses computer, as I keep saying, the world isn't ready for peoples personal info to be stored on computers, let them learn about computers first.
    The storage of personal details have since been changed - 2 trusted custodians with different codes to acess, totally more secure now.
    A bit like the nuclear lauch in event of war, if this cock Assange carries on then World war 3 then it will all be immitariel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobella
    2 trusted custodians with different codes to acess, totally more secure now.
    That isn't secure. believe me.

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    My local 7/11 has an atm, it is connected to the bank by wifi, now I have never used wifi as i don't trust it, can't beat nice hard wired cables I reckon, but lets say I sat outside in my car with a laptop, a quick look at things that would be illegal to use there.

    NetStumbler-0.4.0: wireless access point identifier - listens for SSIDs
    and sends beacons as probes searching for access points.

    Kismet-2005-08-R: wireless sniffer and monitor - passively monitors wireless traffic
    and sorts data to identify SSIDs, MAC addresses, channels and connection speeds.

    Wellenreiter-v1.9: WLAN discovery tool - uses brute force to identify low traffic
    access points; hides your real MAC address; integrates with GPS.

    WEP***** 0.1.0: Unix based-pearl aplication encryption breaker - *****s 802.11 WEP
    encryption keys using the latest discovered weakness of RC4 key scheduling.

    Airsnort-0.2.7e: encryption breaker - passively monitoring transmissions,
    computing the encryption key when enough packets have been gathered.
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    Wepwedgie-0.1.0-alpha: for toolkit that determines 802.11 WEP keystreams
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    Hotspotter-0.4: Wireless client attacking too.

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    maybe he is better off not beinng defended by australian politicians

    Twitter / Bronwyn Bishop: Mr Assange should be aggre ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    but lets say I sat outside in my car with a laptop
    It wouldn't make you rich..
    To start with, they don't use WEP but the more secure WPA and that is only an extra encryption layer for the wireless.
    The communication between the banks central computer and an ATM machine uses a secure IP protocol based on a very strong crypto - breaking that one will take you month if not years and is of no value since the keys they use are session keys and only valid for that certain session.
    It is only in the movies they can make an ATM spit out all of its contents when connecting a laptop to it.

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    ^Shall still stick to using the atm at the bank with cctv cameras and everything else

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    meanwhile the Australian Feds came out today to say there has been no Australian Law broken.

    hows them apples gillard ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    The communication between the banks central computer and an ATM machine uses a secure IP protocol based on a very strong crypto - breaking that one will take you month if not years and is of no value since the keys they use are session keys and only valid for that certain session.
    It is only in the movies they can make an ATM spit out all of its contents when connecting a laptop to it.
    that Malaysian spy/hacker who used to listen to ATM land lines here would disagree

    he was quite successful in stealing all those nummbers with a simple wiretap

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick
    maybe he is better off not beinng defended by australian politicians Twitter / Bronwyn Bishop: Mr Assange should be aggre ...
    Account suspended. What did it say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    meanwhile the Australian Feds came out today to say there has been no Australian Law broken.

    hows them apples gillard ?
    Saw Gillard on the news last night being interviewed about the illegal immigrant tragedy at Christmas Island. That should have been the Immigration Ministers job. And then saw the Deputy PM on the same news squaring off about the Wikileaks saga, which should have been Gillards job. Quite plain to see she is dodging the issue of going under media scrutiny for her previous pro-US comments unfairly attacking a fellow Australian citizen. Dodging the bullet, changing the subject. What ever you want to call it. But shows lack of leadership and lack of courage in facing up to what amounts a venomous and unfounded stand against a fellow Aussie in favour of a foreign government.

    Sadly, it will all blow over before the next election and most people will forget all about it by then.
    Nothing short of a retraction and an apology will get my vote next election.
    But of course she is going to sail along as if nothing has ever happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    Account suspended. What did it say?
    it will have been screen grabbed - but close - simongarlick.net - Filed under 'Bronwyn Bishop'

    maybe it was a sendup

    it was an account name of BronwynBishopMP saying something allong the line of Jillian Assange should be forced to reveal where the cables are.

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    "Regarding Wikileaks editor Julian Assange, it was alleged that Bishop had tweeted in December 2010 that "Mr Assange should be aggressively interrogated until he reveals the location of the stolen cables, so they can be retrieved." The comment was widely retweeted and mocked as an indication of her technical naivety. However, the tweet was later revealed to be a fake"

    Bronwyn Bishop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    She is a nasty piece though. No wonder so many people believe she would have said that. Its even possible she may have said it and retracted it to avoid supporting Gillard.

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    Gillard under pressure to explain WikiLeaks comments
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    Mr Assange was freed on bail by the High Court in London overnight.
    (AFP: Adrian Dennis)

    Prime Minister Julia Gillard is under renewed pressure over her initial response to the WikiLeaks controversy.

    At one stage Ms Gillard labelled the actions of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange "illegal". It was later downgraded to "grossly irresponsible".

    But today at a press conference in Sydney there was a slightly different tone after an investigation by the Australian Federal Police.

    "The Government believed it was appropriate to refer the matter to the Australian Federal Police. We've done that now. We've received the advice and the advice is that there have been no breaches of Australian law," Ms Gillard said.

    Ms Gillard says she only meant it was against the law to steal classified cables, not release them as the whistleblower website has done in recent weeks.

    But Acting Opposition Leader Julie Bishop says Ms Gillard should admit she went beyond that.

    "There is no room here for the Prime Minister to weasel out of it," she said.

    Ms Bishop says Ms Gillard's comments were irresponsible.

    "She is a lawyer. She well knows about the presumption of innocence," she said.

    Greens Senator Scott Ludlam says Ms Gillard must formally retract her comments.

    "There's just some really important principles, not just fundamental legal principles, but obviously this gentleman has legal rights that should respected," he said.

    "I think it's very, very awkward for the Prime Minister and the Attorney-General to be rushing to judgment before any charges have even been brought in relation to these matters."

    Mr Assange, who is wanted for questioning on sexual assault charges in Sweden, was freed on bail by the High Court in London overnight.

    He is now at a friend's country house in Suffolk, where he must live until the start of his extradition hearing on February 7.

    Mr Assange has denied the Swedish charges against him and his legal team have said they are worried about the possibility of him being extradited to face possible espionage charges in the US.

    He thanked his supporters and said the release of classified US cables would continue.

    xxx.xxx.xx


    my guess is them apples is sour gillard .

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    wonder if she will push for the prosecution/extradition of the prominent seppos who have been publicly uttering the death threats against an Australian citizen ?

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    fair call but ain't much to wonder 'bout tis there ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    wonder if she will push for the prosecution/extradition of the prominent seppos who have been publicly uttering the death threats against an Australian citizen ?
    Hey! Gillard and the Australian Attorney General were/are part of that same US lynch mob. First the PM (a lawyer) declares him guilty of a crime, then the AG says they were going to revoke his passport but decided against it so it would be easier to track and arrest him. Then they both go running to the Federal Police to try and find something to get Assange on.

    Its not hard to figure out that Gillard and Co would be more than happy to hand over an Australian citizen to their US bosses to face possible execution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    CANBERRA, Oct. 30 (Xinhua) -- Western Australia will host a new multimillion-dollar U.S. defense base to spy on foreign satellites and keep watch on dangerous space junk, local media reported on Saturday.

    Fairfax newspapers reported that U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates is poised to announce the space base when he visits Australia next week with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    As a major expansion of the U.S. military footprint in Australia, the paper said the base is likely to be built at the top secret Harold E Holt Naval communications station at Exmouth of Western Australia.

    The facility will allow Australia to become a key partner in the international battle for space supremacy.
    They haven't received the money for this yet so they will hold back until they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepee View Post
    dobella wrote.

    I am a member of the BNP in the UK, my personal choice of political persuasion.
    My home adress, phone number and other personal details are now on wikileaks website for all to see, i get bombarded by left-wing activists with junkmail every day.
    WIKILEAKS SUCK.
    Isn't this what's known as "collateral damage" ?[/quote]
    Funny for you, but if Assange releases YOUR personal details to neighbours and the world, how would you like that ?
    I do not need to know who my neighbour votes for or their sexuaility but that is what is coming ,
    Freedom of speach ?, has to be protectted.
    Personal details on the public domain - i hope not.
    By the way. i am just about to go to the toilet, do you really want to know that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobella
    By the way. i am just about to go to the toilet, do you really want to know that ?
    Not sure, are you an elected official?

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    ^ Elected ?

    This is military junta coup-land ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    but lets say I sat outside in my car with a laptop
    It wouldn't make you rich..
    To start with, they don't use WEP but the more secure WPA and that is only an extra encryption layer for the wireless.
    The communication between the banks central computer and an ATM machine uses a secure IP protocol based on a very strong crypto - breaking that one will take you month if not years and is of no value since the keys they use are session keys and only valid for that certain session.
    It is only in the movies they can make an ATM spit out all of its contents when connecting a laptop to it.
    Yeah, dont fuck around that way. Stick to the old fashioned way and reverse ram raid it with a pickup and nick the whole bloody machine. (Watch out for those dye packs though )


    oh... and the GPS tracker as well.....
    You, sir, are a God among men....
    Short Men, who aren't terribly bright....
    More like dwarves with learning disabilities....
    You are a God among Dwarves With Learning Disabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dobella
    By the way. i am just about to go to the toilet, do you really want to know that ?
    Not sure, are you an elected official?
    Pickel, I am not but my personal details are on the wikileaks site for all to see.
    Adress, Phone number, e- Mail etc., had to change some but still getting harrassed and for what ?
    Being a member of a legitimate legal political party.
    Going to the toilet now, just thought the world would like to know that.

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