Thread: Why is no one helping Pakistan ?

Originally Posted by zygote1

Haiti vs Pakistan? Hmmm let's run down the check list shall we?
- When Pakistan had the earthquakes a couple years ago, the USA led the aid charge. Following the quake the Pakistanis repaid the kindness by protesting in the streets with their familiar chants of death to America etc.
- Following the earthquake in Haiti, the Haitians were grateful and while maintaining their dignity went out of their way to express their thanks.
- When the aid arrived in Haiti, the Haitians said thank you. When the aid arrived in Pakistan last time the Pakistanis, said, hey you give us more, we want more now or else.....
- Pakististan spends an enormous part of its available funds on a supersized military and its quest for nuclear weapons. Haiti does not.
-Pakistan is a nation that condemns the west as Satan's disciples. The Haitians just say thank you.
- Pakistan has wealthy friends in the Islamic world, countries with lots of money. Let the muslim neighbours help each other. Haiti is in in the backyard of its two largest aid donors; Canada and the USA. Pakistan is in the backyard of China. China can do what Canada & the USA did with Haiti.
- Haitians do not go to the USA or Canada and wage jihad. Pakistanis have a habit of wanting to make things go kaboom in the EU, USA & Canada.
- The USA, Canada and some European nations have cultural and historical ties to Haiti. Pakistan has said repeatedly it views its brothers as residing in the middle east and Iran.
- Haitians once they leave the destitution and horror that is Haiti often go on to become contributing members of the countries they move to. Pakistanis have a habit of demanding that everyone accomodate their religion and culture when they go somewhere.
- Haiti has allowed international observers to assist and monitor its elections. Pakistan's military bosses will not.
- Haiti doesn't help the Taliban. It appears that Pakistan's ISS and military are friends of the Taliban.
- Haitians have their cultural issues but they at least have laws that forbid the enslavement of women as is the case in Pakistan.
- Why is the west expected to continually bail out the turd world? Did the turd world rush to help the west during the economic crisis?
Need I go on?

Guess, this time we agree.

FR. Did some searches on the Red Cross. Stats claim everything from 10% to 90% goes to admin. So, guess we'll never know. All sites seem to agree that the Salvation Army is one of the best, as far as passing most of donated money onward. They also once gave me a cloth bag when I was in the Army with a toothbrush, toothpaste, and a piece of hard candy. Only thing I ever got from any of them.....Hate those fucking bells, tho.

Originally Posted by Mid

ABC Radio Australia News:Stories:UN calls for $US459m in Pakistan aid

Gordon Brown makes aid appeal for Pakistan flood victims | World news | guardian.co.uk

AFP: Islamic charities versus the US in battle for Pakistan aid

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - British Muslim Charity launches Two million pounds Pak floods appeal

ReliefWeb » Document » Pakistan: UNHCR launches appeal as aid reaches devastated communities

no one ?

Putting it in relation.....NO ONE !

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

FR. Did some searches on the Red Cross. Stats claim everything from 10% to 90% goes to admin. So, guess we'll never know. All sites seem to agree that the Salvation Army is one of the best, as far as passing most of donated money onward. They also once gave me a cloth bag when I was in the Army with a toothbrush, toothpaste, and a piece of hard candy. Only thing I ever got from any of them.....Hate those fucking bells, tho.

I guess you're about right there coz the figure I heard at the time was 50%

If you are sending anything to Pakistan try and spare a thought for Bin Laden , he would murder a chicken supper right now.

Originally Posted by FarangRed

All the money never gets to the people that need it, I don't suppose for 1 minute they don't have any corruption in Pakistan

You got that right. The tribal militias will snaffle the aid and sell it, even though it was given freely.

Speaking for myself, I'm sick to death of Pakistan going cap in hand every 3 months for some disaster or other, then flooding the UK with immigrants and then diverting government funding to train up the terrorists that want to drive us into a fundamental abyss.

Cheers

When they get the balance of power in the UK, the buggers will remember that we didn't help them and we'll have hell to pay.


WERE ALL GUNNA DIE!!

Originally Posted by Jools

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

I've given up on charity, a month ago I sent 5 pounds to starving pot bellied kids in Africa and they bought a fvcking trumpet!

At least he can now go out at night blowing his trumpet

I've done my bit to help Pakistan, I sent them a mop and bucket.

Originally Posted by FarangRed

What about the Red Cross? how much do they help themselves to I was quite amazed at the percentage that was quoted.

I was here in Phuket at the time of the Tsumani and that was a real eye opener.

Yeah, me too. We were screaming down the phone at the DEC asking where this 100 million quid was, and they were buying rice in the US and flying it to Bangkok, and trucking it down.... when you could buy the stuff in the local market in Phuket Town.

They are a complete and utter waste of fucking time, and squander fortunes running their useless bureaucracy.

Originally Posted by Pol the Pot

What's happened is that extremist and fundamentalist Muslim charity orgs have jumped in.

That's why these guys are getting increasingly popular in the last few decades. They do stuff for the poor which is not done by their governments. Some of them artificially hold their position with the help of usa and the extremist groups in the muslim countries have their popular support amongst the people who are against their governments or the poor who hope for a better futur. going back to the pure religion is supposed to terminate corruption and some interpratation of justice will be installed. Anyway they have already won this battle but who cares, you britts should worry about it all the paki's are there loool

and most of those paki's come from the mountainous areas close to afghanistan don't they??

Looks like mr Fred and Moonraker are lost for words on this one.

Pakistan....... Bit the Hand that fed them many years ago..... and has continued to do so ever since !!!!

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

the Salvation Army is one of the best, as far as passing most of donated money onward. They also once gave me a cloth bag when I was in the Army with a toothbrush, toothpaste, and a piece of hard candy. Only thing I ever got from any of them.....Hate those fucking bells, tho.

Only charity some of my fam who fought in WWII donated to. They always remembered the blankets SA gave them.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

It's full of Muslims that want to kill us?

Well BM - even the boogieman needs charitable acts of kindness occasionally.

However many of them die, I propose we just send them replacements.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

It's full of Muslims that want to kill us?

Well BM - even the boogieman needs charitable acts of kindness occasionally.

I'll take Freddy Kruger over some of those from Pakistan...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

It's full of Muslims that want to kill us?

Well BM - even the boogieman needs charitable acts of kindness occasionally.

I'll take Freddy Kruger over some of those from Pakistan...

Hmmm...I imagine you would.

The tittle should have been "Why is the west not helping Pakistan?" A number of Muslim organization are there helping people. And that worries a lot the US and the U.N.

The Pakistan PM just got around his busy schedule to go visit the flood areas of Pakistan yesterday.
I suppose when their government starts giving a toss about their people, other countries might.

Originally Posted by pet coon

Life is a bitch, one day your handing out advice and acting invincible, the next day, your asking for charity from those you referred to as a enemy of your religion/people.

"The Worm Turns" Karisma?

Back to Why no rush to aid Pakistan? Why no rush to aid Pakistan?

August 13, 2010
Jorge Heine


The images are devastating, as are the numbers. The floods in Pakistan’s Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, by now reaching as far south as the Punjab, have affected more people than all major natural disasters in the past six years combined. Some 14 million people — 2 million displaced — and 300,000 homes have been hit, with 1,600 fatalities so far.
Billions are needed to deal with the emergency. Pakistan is a poor country and its people need all the help they can get. Six years ago, after the December 2004 tsunami that hit Sri Lanka, Indonesia and Thailand, the response of the international community was swift and generous. The same happened after Haiti’s earthquake last January.
Not today. Sakib Sherani, the Pakistani government’s main economic adviser, says, “If you look at the scale of the damage and compare that to the pledges we have received, so far there is a big asymmetry . . . the international community needs to step up.” The United Nations is seeking $460 million to help out. Will the money be raised?
International disaster relief has become professionalized. Sri Lanka and Aceh province in Indonesia made the most of the aid they received after the 2004 tsunami. The UN and many international NGOs are proficient at dealing with such emergencies that will often affect fragile or failing states.
The big unknown remains what moves the public in donor countries to reach for their wallets. The scale and magnitude of the disaster is one factor. The relative poverty of the country is another. The earthquake that hit southern Chile earlier this year was much stronger than the one to hit Haiti (8.8 versus 7.0 on the Richter scale), and some 500 people were killed. Chile received little aid. It is rich enough to manage on its own.
Do peaceful nations (such as Haiti) trigger greater sympathy than conflict-ridden ones (like Pakistan)? Sri Lanka in 2004 was in the midst of a civil war. Yet, that did not stand in the way of an enormous outpouring of international donations. Arrangements had to be made to share this aid with the insurgents in the LTTE-controlled north.
Pakistan has been described as “the most dangerous country in the world,” and not just because of it being a rogue nuclear power. There is a reason why British Prime Minister David Cameron recently said, “We cannot tolerate in any sense the idea that this country is allowed to look both ways and is able, in any way, to promote the export of terror.” There is a Pakistani connection in many international terrorist incidents, from the one in the London Undergound in 2005 to the most recent one in New York City’s Times Square. Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistani terrorist group long active in Kashmir, was behind the attack on Mumbai in 2008, which left 166 dead.
As the Afghan war enters the endgame, the recently released Wikileaks documents confirmed what we all knew. The Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) of Pakistan not only sympathizes with the Afghan Taliban, but they meet to plan joint actions. It was the ISI that introduced Mullah Omar to Osama bin Laden in 1996. The rest, as they say, is history. As the Taliban continue their savage attacks on civilians and military targets alike, they count on Pakistani support.
Only last week, 10 health workers, six of them American, three of them women, affiliated with the International Assistance Mission, a Christian charity, were killed in northern Afghanistan, near the Hindu Kush. The team leader, Tom Little, an optometrist from New York, had 35 years of experience in Afghanistan providing eye care to villagers who had never seen a doctor. The Taliban claimed responsibility, denouncing the hapless victims as spies and evangelists, patently false claims. As long as Pakistan backs a movement of this kind, it is unlikely to generate much sympathy. Does Islamabad expect the International Assistance Mission to spearhead fundraising efforts for the flood victims?

Meh, the US just sent a ship with 1,000 Marines on board to help. Mr Fred will expect the boys to rape, pillage and kill anything that moves.
Ramadan is upon them anyway, so they aren't allowed to eat. Good timing.