Thread: Australia wins first place at World Cup in South Africa . . .

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Hockey is generally neutered (no checking, i.e.) until kids are in their teens- it's a pretty rough sport, though, when played all-out.

Real football ain't for everybody- a man's gotta know his limitations.

In the States, dodge-ball separates the weaker members of the herd from the stronger ones (many school districts ban it entirely these days)- I used to love that game...

thought this thread was about another drunken aussie not about how tough septic sports are, The Usaaf football team in uk challenged the local rugby league team the Warrington Wire to a game of US football in the local stadium , the wire played without pads or helmets at the beginning of the 2nd half the US team refusedto return to the field, even with all their padding they were no match for the wire and they could not handle the brutal tackles , the local paper published photos the next day of the battered yanks, then 10 years later and 10000 miles away in Ubon I watched an american football team play an aussie team at Aussie rules , that was a bloodbath poor yanks did not know what hit them

Originally Posted by Ningi

thought this thread was about another drunken aussie not about how tough septic sports are, The Usaaf football team in uk challenged the local rugby league team the Warrington Wire to a game of US football in the local stadium , the wire played without pads or helmets at the beginning of the 2nd half the US team refusedto return to the field, even with all their padding they were no match for the wire and they could not handle the brutal tackles , the local paper published photos the next day of the battered yanks, then 10 years later and 10000 miles away in Ubon I watched an american football team play an aussie team at Aussie rules , that was a bloodbath poor yanks did not know what hit them

I didn't find anything on the net to corroborate that story- got a link?

Seems like American Football is the Warrington game these days:

http://warrington-news.newslib.com/story/8395-1357/

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I didn't find anything on the net to corroborate that story- got a link?

You people probably deleted and censored all info on this . . . Bastards

That does sound like us...

Originally Posted by withnallstoke

Damn. It's south of Canadia, and contains a large set of hills called the Handies

Ta for that. I thought that place was at the end of the Armies...(sun reader joke)

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I've been hearing the 'pads' argument forever

It's all a bit chicken & egg really... The pads were introduced as a safety measure to help protect players, because of the pads the players can hit harder in the tackle.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I've been hearing the 'pads' argument forever

It's all a bit chicken & egg really... The pads were introduced as a safety measure to help protect players, because of the pads the players can hit harder in the tackle.

That's basically it- American football isn't 'rugby with pads'- it's a different (more violent) game that couldn't be played at its highest level without pads.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Fag football ain't for everybody- a man's gotta know his padding's limitations.

True that.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

When two rugby players are approaching each other head-on, the tackler (if he's right-handed) generally moves slightly to his left (driving his right shoulder towards the right shoulder of his target) to make the hit in a somewhat glancing way

I see you've never played rugby.

When two rugby players are approaching each other head-on, the tackler (if he's right-handed) generally moves slightly to his left (driving his right shoulder towards the right shoulder of his target) to make the hit in a somewhat glancing way

Huh? Only if he's a poofter.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by Ningi

thought this thread was about another drunken aussie not about how tough septic sports are, The Usaaf football team in uk challenged the local rugby league team the Warrington Wire to a game of US football in the local stadium , the wire played without pads or helmets at the beginning of the 2nd half the US team refusedto return to the field, even with all their padding they were no match for the wire and they could not handle the brutal tackles , the local paper published photos the next day of the battered yanks, then 10 years later and 10000 miles away in Ubon I watched an american football team play an aussie team at Aussie rules , that was a bloodbath poor yanks did not know what hit them

I didn't find anything on the net to corroborate that story- got a link?

Seems like American Football is the Warrington game these days:Check the warrington Guardian late 56 or early 57 the match was played as a charity match at wilderspool, the proceeds went to whitecross and warrington boys club, Bewsey school captained by Keith affleck played against Beamont school in the warm up match this is as much as I can remember dont have to bother googling it I was there!!

AMERICAN FOOTBALL: Warrington

dont really need a link I was there

And to be fair . . . rugby players now have a bit of padding as well . . and many wear 'helmets'.

But don't tell the yanks that . . .

Originally Posted by panama hat

and many wear 'helmets'

Only to stop the opposition biting their ears off.'

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Fag football ain't for everybody- a man's gotta know his padding's limitations.

True that.

Make your point, but don't be a douche and alter my posts.

I would imagine either game is beyond your depth.

Originally Posted by Ningi

AMERICAN FOOTBALL: Warringtondont really need a link I was there

The game played today is nothing like the game played in the 1950's.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I would imagine either game is beyond your depth.

Marmite's manboobs would be swinging the fandango if he ever started a run . . .


Ok, here's proof . . . how many sissy-football players have broken noses, black eyes (nothing racial in that), cauliflower ears, scarred faces etc . . . and can run for 80 minutes without stoppage every ten seconds . . . and oxygen if he has run more than 20 yards?

I used to quite enjoy going to Soldier Field and watch the Bears play . . . good stuff . . . but the incessant time-wasting is very annoying

Originally Posted by panama hat

I used to quite enjoy going to Soldier Field and watch the Bears play . . . good stuff . . . but the incessant time-wasting is very annoying

I agree. I quite enjoy the NFL but I only ever watch the replays where all the stoppages are taken out. Live games drive me to distraction. Having said that going to a live game is on my 'To Do' list -- atmosphere would surely make up for it.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

When two rugby players are approaching each other head-on, the tackler (if he's right-handed) generally moves slightly to his left (driving his right shoulder towards the right shoulder of his target) to make the hit in a somewhat glancing way-

bollox! you go for the legs, shoulder tackles are cowardly, dangerous and considered 'high' and illegal.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I would imagine either game is beyond your depth.

Marmite's manboobs would be swinging the fandango if he ever started a run . . .


Ok, here's proof . . . how many sissy-football players have broken noses, black eyes (nothing racial in that), cauliflower ears, scarred faces etc . . . and can run for 80 minutes without stoppage every ten seconds . . . and oxygen if he has run more than 20 yards?

I used to quite enjoy going to Soldier Field and watch the Bears play . . . good stuff . . . but the incessant time-wasting is very annoying

They all have destroyed appendages- many of those guys can barely walk before they're sixty years old- the game beats the living shit out of them physically.

As far as the oxygen goes, well, these guys are definitely 'hot-house flowers'- they're tuned like race cars, and, when you're 'tuned' to the limit, you're susceptible to breakage- when these guys run, they give absolutely everything they have (when players from earlier periods talk about today's game, they always talk about the speed of it, and how they couldn't compete today)- a long run (even one of less than 10 seconds) can empty your tank in a stressful situation- being chased by guys capable of breaking your neck is stressful- the oxygen helps them recharge faster and spend less time on the bench.

As far as the time-outs go, I'm in agreement- many are there for TV advertising reasons- gotta pay those players somehow, and the NFL charges networks a fortune for broadcast rights.

I rather like watching the games on ESPN Asia here in Thailand as they're tape-delayed and shown with the time-outs removed.

Originally Posted by pompeybloke

Originally Posted by FailSafe

When two rugby players are approaching each other head-on, the tackler (if he's right-handed) generally moves slightly to his left (driving his right shoulder towards the right shoulder of his target) to make the hit in a somewhat glancing way-

bollox! you go for the legs, shoulder tackles are cowardly, dangerous and considered 'high' and illegal.

OK- I got a lot of that from watching 'rugby's greatest hits' vids on YouTube- I only played a bit, and that's the impression I got- I'm no expert.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

When two rugby players are approaching each other head-on, the tackler (if he's right-handed) generally moves slightly to his left (driving his right shoulder towards the right shoulder of his target) to make the hit in a somewhat glancing way

I'm glad you don't coach the kids here....

I've been to close to 70 Rugby Internationals and over 40 NFL games.

Both superb sports and most of you talk utter nonsense about one of the games.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Originally Posted by FailSafe

When two rugby players are approaching each other head-on, the tackler (if he's right-handed) generally moves slightly to his left (driving his right shoulder towards the right shoulder of his target) to make the hit in a somewhat glancing way

I'm glad you don't coach the kids here....

I've been to close to 70 Rugby Internationals and over 40 NFL games.

Both superb sports and most of you talk utter nonsense about one of the games.

Gee, Bob, and I've been claiming to be a rugby expert this entire thread...

Like I said, I played rugby a (tiny) bit, and I watched some vids and came to that conclusion based on what I saw (what are considered rugby's hardest hits)- if I'm wrong I can live with it, but what I described above is the gist of most face-to-face hits that I watched- a somewhat glancing blow followed by a grab (there were a few NFL-quality shots, though).

Now (American) football, on the other hand, I know very well, and played for years on organized teams- some guys on this thread have never played yet they talk complete crap about the game

Well, it's quite simple, NFL, wipe the guy out play over. In rugby you are after the ball, the man must tackle, get back to his feet and strip the ball, the games are totally different and the methods are totally different.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Gee, Bob, and I've been claiming to be a rugby expert this entire thread

You haven't, but you did offer a step by step account of how rugby players tackle and it is as far removed from the coaching manual as possible.

Fair enough- I was referring the the harder hits in the game (not necessarily what would be considered a textbook tackle) in order to make a more direct comparison with the NFL- your first point does illustrate the difference quite nicely, though, and I see what you're getting at.