Thread: Thank Allah for "moderation"

Unmarried couples arrested

Fifty-two unmarried Muslim couples face charges of sexual misconduct and possible jail after being caught in hotel rooms by Malaysia's Islamic morality police.

Scores of officers fanned out across budget hotels in central Selangor state before dawn on January 1, knocking on doors and detaining unmarried Muslim couples who were sharing rooms.

They are expected to be charged with "khalwat", or "close proximity", which under Malaysia's Islamic Sharia law is described as couples not married to each other being alone together in a private place.

Unmarried couples arrested - Asia, World - The Independent

As the title says, just as well Malaysia's a "moderate" Islamic nation, otherwise they'll be polishing up the all Merciful & Compassionate's pebbles.

were any of the couples gay?

Close proximity...

Is that a euphemism for fu*cking?

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Close proximity...

Is that a euphemism for fu*cking?

Khalwat in Malaysian law means an unmarried or non-related mixed-gender couple together behind closed doors. It's also a form of Muslim meditation, oddly enough. If they'd been brother and sister or Sufis they'd have been fine

Originally Posted by keda

They are expected to be charged with "khalwat", or "close proximity", which under Malaysia's Islamic Sharia law is described as couples not married to each other being alone together in a private place.

WHISKY. TANGO. FOXTROT ?!?!?!!!!

Damn, can these people get any dumber, possibly?

What's the punishment for this vile crime?

Stoning? Caning? Branding?

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by keda

They are expected to be charged with "khalwat", or "close proximity", which under Malaysia's Islamic Sharia law is described as couples not married to each other being alone together in a private place.

WHISKY. TANGO. FOXTROT ?!?!?!!!!

Damn, can these people get any dumber, possibly?

What's the punishment for this vile crime?

Stoning? Caning? Branding?

Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife

I kind of get the feeling that Muslims will eventually revolt against the tyranny of sharia law, such as in Iran. it may be a long process, but how long can any totalitarian ideology last against the wishies of human nature.

Give me another one of your wild guesses.

Think about how busy the religious police will be when sharia law hits the UK!!

Being born and weaned on the rarefied atmosphere of fundamental Islam makes it easier to accept its privations.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by keda

They are expected to be charged with "khalwat", or "close proximity", which under Malaysia's Islamic Sharia law is described as couples not married to each other being alone together in a private place.

WHISKY. TANGO. FOXTROT ?!?!?!!!!

Damn, can these people get any dumber, possibly?

What's the punishment for this vile crime?

Stoning? Caning? Branding?

The punishments seem to be the same for men and woman, at least there is some equality.

# 25 & 26 in the list are a bit perplexing

The list is printed in English
The first two offences are written in Bahasa Malay phonetic 'English' of the arabic word so if you were a non arabic speaking Muslim ( and I know a few ) you could get flogged for something you did not know about !

Originally Posted by Happyman

# 25 & 26 in the list are a bit perplexing

Homosexuality and Lesbianism. I guess 28 and 29 are so depraved that only English speakers have words for them

Originally Posted by keda

Being born and weaned on the rarefied atmosphere of fundamental Islam makes it easier to accept its privations.

Are you quite sure? Having seen the activities of the Arabs that frequent the Edgware Road area of London I'm not.

Originally Posted by Happyman

The first two offences are written in Bahasa Malay phonetic 'English' of the arabic word so if you were a non arabic speaking Muslim ( and I know a few ) you could get flogged for something you did not know about !

All part of the fun - for a bunch of brainless barbaric arseholes.

Originally Posted by Moonraker

The punishments seem to be the same for men and woman, at least there is some equality.

On paper, I can't think of any off the top of my head but hasn't there been more than one case in Muslim nations where there clearly is one law for the men and another for the women?

I think the 'I divorce you' said three times only applies when said by a man to a woman and not vice versa.

I guess any guy caught in a room with a goat, camel or sheep would be Ok?

Originally Posted by Happyman

I think the 'I divorce you' said three times only applies when said by a man to a woman and not vice versa.

The triple Talaq is illegal in most Muslim countries and is only believed in by a minority of Sunni Muslims. Shia Muslims don't believe in it at all. But, yes, there are many Muslim laws where the woman gets the worst of it by far.

Originally Posted by crazy dog

I guess any guy caught in a room with a goat, camel or sheep would be Ok?

As long as they're married, no problem.

Originally Posted by crazy dog

I guess any guy caught in a room with a goat, camel or sheep would be Ok?

Weeeel, it's not explicitly forbidden by the Quran but a number of Hadith call for the death penalty for animal shagging. No doubt one of our "Islamic scholars" will be around in a while to remind us about Khomeini's mythical statements on sex with animals.

Probably one or two, if you search deep enough.

Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife

I kind of get the feeling that Muslims will eventually revolt against the tyranny of sharia law, such as in Iran. it may be a long process, but how long can any totalitarian ideology last against the wishies of human nature.

Watch Iran for the answer. Once the extremist are in the drivers seat they don't leave without a fight.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife

I kind of get the feeling that Muslims will eventually revolt against the tyranny of sharia law, such as in Iran. it may be a long process, but how long can any totalitarian ideology last against the wishies of human nature.

Watch Iran for the answer. Once the extremist are in the drivers seat they don't leave without a fight.

That's nothing to do with Islam or Sharia, though.

Originally Posted by George Orwell

We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

That's nothing to do with Islam or Sharia.

You are not wrong. There are plenty of examples around the world as proof. But there are also a lot of examples for peaceful power change.

Can you give one example where a strict muslim regime has relinquished power to a non strict muslim government without fight?

Nicole Ceausescu of Romania..? Yes I concede that the Islamic model of government is too entrenched to be easily overthrown when any dissent is harshly repressed. What about the 'Islamification' of the west?, Muslims are notoriously quiet in criticising murderous acts done in the name of Islam, but they enjoy a freedoms in the west that surely they would not want to relinquish to a regressive system like sharia law, there was a notable case recently of a mother acting as witness in the trial of a father that murdered his daughter for 'acting improperly'.