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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    I think judges that decide on the death sentence should also be made to help in the injecting or electrocution of the victim, just so they get a better idea of what they are sentencing somebody to.
    Should be on pay per view for all to see. Might really act as a deterrent and defray the costs of the legal process.

    You Brits had the right idea. Hanging, beheading and the like held in the town square.

    Would the judge get to wear one of those leather masks?
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    I think judges that decide on the death sentence should also be made to help in the injecting or electrocution of the victim, just so they get a better idea of what they are sentencing somebody to.
    Should be on pay per view for all to see. Might really act as a deterrent and defray the costs of the legal process.

    You Brits had the right idea. Hanging, beheading and the like held in the town square.
    Yes but we evolved to become more civilized and put those dark days behind us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    You Brits had the right idea. Hanging, beheading and the like held in the town square.
    The executioner also had the right to auction off the clothes worn by the hanged man on the day of his execution.
    The rope was also sold as it was believed to have magical powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bretby View Post
    Yes but we evolved to become more civilized and put those dark days behind us.
    Which is part of the problem... With all the libby touchy-feely groups shouting about a rapist's & murderer's rights, the penalty for the crime gets mitigated to life in prison...

    Personally, I think one thing he French did right was inventing the guillotine... Bailiff, off with his head!!!
    Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    guilty with no question of doubt

    In the US, should equal one appeal, then 90 days and out. Here in the State of Cal we have a Richard Allen Davis who broke into a teen slumber party took a teen, Polly Klaus, raped her and killed her. He gave the finger to her father during the trial. He has been on death row for over 10 years at a cost of $1 million to the state, he gets better medical care than seniors. His heart, liver, and kidneys could have been used to keep a worthy human alive.
    What are our priorities: keeping a wortless piece of shit alive or giving another human a chance to live and 1million dollars for counselors in our schools.
    Educators know that some humans simply can not live with other humans at an early age. Counseling is the best deterent for crime, not after the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtone9317 View Post
    In the US, should equal one appeal, then 90 days and out. Here in the State of Cal we have a Richard Allen Davis who broke into a teen slumber party took a teen, Polly Klaus, raped her and killed her. He gave the finger to her father during the trial. He has been on death row for over 10 years at a cost of $1 million to the state, he gets better medical care than seniors. His heart, liver, and kidneys could have been used to keep a worthy human alive.
    What are our priorities: keeping a wortless piece of shit alive or giving another human a chance to live and 1million dollars for counselors in our schools.
    Educators know that some humans simply can not live with other humans at an early age. Counseling is the best deterent for crime, not after the fact.
    Dunno. You tell us

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Other critics say Keller's case illustrates systematic flaws in a state where elected judges execute more people than any other in America - especially when they are from an ethnic minority.

    Nine of the 16 men put to death this year in Texas, including Richard, have been black. Six were Hispanic; only one was white.
    Other critics say Keller's case illustrates systematic flaws in a state where elected judges execute more people than any other in America - especially when they are from an ethnic minority.

    Nine of the 16 men put to death this year in Texas, including Richard, have been black. Six were Hispanic; only one was white.
    Well Antsy, just whose fault is it that darkies and spic's kill more folks than whites do, so only seems reasonable that more of them go down for it.
    Equal rights do not mean that they have to limit executions to even numbers of whites and minorities.
    Or are you trying to tell us that Blacks, Browns and whites each rape and kill an equal number of people?
    I think you'll find that the statistics don't support what you're saying, BG.

    I think you'll also find that sentencing statistics show that you've a much greater chance of having the death penality imposed on you if you are black (o other minority) than if you are white; even if it's for the same crime.

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    Check again Antsy, Black On Black is the majority of violent crime in America.

    If it is done more than any other race then it just proves that Blacks are not usually able to be rehabilitated and so will return to crime if released, so just throwing good money after bad.

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    The Point. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -> You.

    Nope, you've missed it again BG.

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    Hopefully third world countries like this will gradually develop to the point where they realise that capital punishment is neither a deterrent nor a cure for crime.
    keeping a convicted criminal off the streets, away from their victims, and unable to offend again (by imprisonment or execution) seems like a good deterrent/cure to me.

    the rights and needs of victims and potential victims should come before anything else.

    education ? should come from the parents, lowlife parents will usually have lowlife kids, if lowlife parents had been locked away for their lowlife ways then they wouldnt be flooding the streets with all their lowlife offspring.

    got to be tough with crims. right from the first offence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    The Point. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -> You.

    Nope, you've missed it again BG.
    Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    The 56-year-old judge is expected to give evidence during the misconduct hearing in San Antonio this week, and claim that the alleged computer glitches were never properly explained to her.
    Ok judge are you sitting comfortably??? A glitch means that somethings not working properly... Ok..try it again...

    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    they dont act like that in Boston Legal...
    quality again KW..

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Hopefully third world countries like this will gradually develop to the point where they realise that capital punishment is neither a deterrent nor a cure for crime.
    Agreed, In all countries of the world that have capital punishment..would you believe people still commit 'crimes' (interpretations vary..drugs etc)

    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    All in all pretty much the same. Them "Others" are not pulling their load. Death row inmates. White - 31% Black - 38% Hispanic - 29% Other - 2%
    I think black people only make up about 10-14% of Americans, is that true? so then the percentage is far greater?

    agreed others need to pull their fingers out, to get a decent rating..

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    ^It wasn't that long ago when England had such barbaric customs, hangings and things like that, sending them off in ships to wild desolate countries in the back of beyond, one day they will advance forward and educate their local natives.
    The last executions in England happened on 13th August 1964.
    Peter Anthony Allen and his accomplice, Gwynne Owen Evans were executed by hanging for the murder of John Alan West in April 1964.



    The last execution in Scotland was on 15th August 1963.
    Henry John Burnett was executed by hanging for the murder of Thomas Guyan.


    The last execution in Northern Ireland was on 20th December 1961.
    Robert McGladdery was executed by hanging for the murder of Pearl Gamble.


    In Wales, the last execution was of Vivian Tweed on 6th May 1958 for murder.
    The last woman to be executed in England was Ruth Ellis, who was hanged on 13th July 1955 for murder.

    So there we go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr R Sole
    I think black people only make up about 10-14% of Americans, is that true? so then the percentage is far greater?
    Correct. Only reasons can be blacks commit far more murders than whites as BG points out or blacks receive death penalty more often than whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    they dont act like that in Boston Legal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Hopefully third world countries like this will gradually develop to the point where they realise that capital punishment is neither a deterrent nor a cure for crime.
    judging by the number of pin a medal to her chest bridgade, it will never happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr R Sole
    Agreed, In all countries of the world that have capital punishment..would you believe people still commit 'crimes' (interpretations vary..drugs etc)
    Of course they do . . . do you really believe it is a deterrent?

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    No PH I don't think that it a deterrent or a detergent either...
    that is though....

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    You calling me a fairy now? Shocking behaviour!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr R Sole
    Agreed, In all countries of the world that have capital punishment..would you believe people still commit 'crimes' (interpretations vary..drugs etc)
    People would not commit any crimes if they thought that they were going to get caught, as a rule and more people with a good homelife and parents that care and teach their children seem to be in court and jail a lot less than people who do not care and run wild as kids.
    And the people with the more strict childhoods and of the higher IQ bloodlines seem to commit less violent crimes and less of all crimes in general.
    If you have a dog that keeps biting people then you will keep him in a pen or on a chain or have him put down, same is done with criminals and that is a costly business and most that are guilty of murder, do their 7 to 10 years life, and are released into the general public do it again and people with the population of the USA are not going to pay the pay the $50,000 or more to keep a killer alive for 50 years when they can be put down for a lot less.

    The Point. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -> You.

    Nope, you've missed it again BG.
    No Antsy, you have no ideas about the subject so had better educate your self on numbers and facts, as it is you have no point to discuss, only just your regulatr shit stirring and I see that you have picked up an old friend that we will have to keep an eye on as he is a stalking cocksucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    She is elected and from her years in the seat, more than once, so if the people that elected her don't like it they can vote her out and it is no one Else's business.
    Maybe they should do the same with doctors? If they fuck up and kill someone, when their term is up they can get voted out.



    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib
    Last time I checked, you weren't American, so piss off...
    No. I come from a civilised part of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    No. I come from a civilised part of the world.
    As civilised as people who abhor soap can get, but you're comparing your country to a very low base in this discussion.

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    crime statistics by race for those who cry racism... - Topix
    Second, Expanded Edition
    Major Findings
    • Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
    Crime Rates
    • Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder,
    and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
    • When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely
    than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
    • Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and
    Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
    • The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of
    the population that is black and Hispanic.
    Interracial Crime
    • Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving
    blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
    • Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Fortyfive
    percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are
    Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are
    black.
    • Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against
    a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
    • Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes
    against whites than vice versa.
    Gangs
    • Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
    • Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs.
    Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
    Incarceration
    • Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139
    to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39
    million.
    • Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are
    three times more likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    No Antsy, you have no ideas about the subject so had better educate your self on numbers and facts, as it is you have no point to discuss, only just your regulatr shit stirring and I see that you have picked up an old friend that we will have to keep an eye on as he is a stalking cocksucker.
    Well you just keep telling yourself that and posting nonsense stats cut 'n pasted from another forum if it makes you feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    No. I come from a civilised part of the world.
    Yes, you certainly do..

    UK is most violent nation in Europe and is worse than US | The Sun |News
    And the UK rate has increased by a shocking 77 per cent since 1998.
    The numbers were released by the European Commission.
    They also tell how Britain has the second highest OVERALL crime rate in the EU.
    Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: “This is a real damning indictment of this Government’s comprehensive failure to tackle the deep-rooted social problems in our society, and the knock-on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.”
    Britain also has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
    But overall we came 13th worst in our rate for murders. Lithuania topped the list, followed by Estonia and Latvia.
    The figures, recording crime in 2007, also show the UK has the fifth-highest robbery rate in the EU, and the fourth-highest burglary rate.

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    We have TWICE as many burglaries as Germany or France.
    The country with the lowest rate of violent crime was Romania, with just 32 violent crimes per 100,000 people.
    But experts claim Romania as well as Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey — all at the bottom of the list — have different ways of recording crime.
    Antsy, be sure and keep spouting bullshit and do not look for any facts,, you will always be happier wearing blinders or those Rose colored glass's
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