Thread: British hacker to be extradited

They're banding those sort of numbers about, I've heard, but it won't happen.

They've probably offered him a deal already - I guess around five years, minimum security.

Originally Posted by slackula

With the Patriot act???!?

I'm not familiar with that.

They'll throw the book at him

For sure. He's fucked.

He should be tried and jailed (if found guilty) in the UK where he was when he committed the alleged crime(s)

Best thing all round.

He'l only get a weak sentence over here, too.

Intentionally deleted.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Why bother hacking into def force and nasa comps anyhows ?

Plenty of UFO stuff on youtube.

Originally Posted by Mr Brown

Last I heard he was looking at 60 years

60 would be the maximum. He's not a repeat offender so he won't get anything close to that. If found guilty he will probably only serve one year in a minimum security facility with a bunch of other white collar criminals and when he leaves he will have plenty of job opportunities. He needs to be careful not to be caught in a series of lies or the judge may opt for a harsher sentence.

I hate hackers so.........him.

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

It says the cost of repair totalled more than 700,000 US dollars (£436,000).

I don't understand that sentence.
Does repair mean installing a security level that should have been there from the beginning?

I don't really understand the logic of that either. If their security was crap, how is it his fault? I can't blame the guy who broke into my house for my not fitting a burglar alarm.

Originally Posted by Dan

I can't blame the guy who broke into my house for my not fitting a burglar alarm

Utter bollocks.

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Does repair mean installing a security level that should have been there from the beginning?

They use the Microsoft approach.

BBC NEWS | UK | Hacker case 'cannot be blocked'

Hacker case 'cannot be blocked'


Gary McKinnon suffers from Asperger's Syndrome

Home Secretary Alan Johnson has said he would be breaking the law if he blocked hacker Gary McKinnon's extradition. Mr McKinnon, from north London, who has Asperger's Syndrome, lost a court bid to avoid being extradited to the US.
The US wants to try the 43-year-old for what it calls the biggest military computer hack ever in 2001/02. He maintains he was seeking UFO evidence.
But writing in the Sunday Times, Mr Johnson said: "It would be unlawful for the home secretary to intervene."

The crimes he is accused of are far from trivial


Alan Johnson
Home Secretary



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Mr Johnson's predecessor Jacqui Smith formally gave the go ahead for Mr McKinnon's extradition in October 2008.
He said after a court rules there is enough evidence, a home secretary can prevent an extradition only in very specific circumstances, none of which applied in Mr McKinnon's case.
In his article, the home secretary acknowledged that it was "understandable" that many would be sympathetic to "someone who appears to be a misguided, vulnerable young man".
But Mr Johnson added that "the crimes he is accused of are far from trivial" and said Mr McKinnon "should be tried fairly for them in a court of law and in the country where the impact of those crimes were felt".
The home secretary also denied that extradition law was wrong, arguing that it was appropriate for "an age where crime is increasingly indifferent to national borders".
'Very difficult'
Glasgow-born Mr McKinnon could face 60 years or more in prison if convicted in the US.
He admits hacking by accessing 97 government computers belonging to organisations such as the US Navy and Nasa, but denies it was malicious. He also denies the allegation he caused damage costing $800,000 (£487,000).


Mr McKinnon has always insisted he was looking for classified documents on UFOs, which he believed the US authorities had suppressed.
He has challenged refusals by the home secretary and the director of public prosecutions (DPP) to try him in the UK.
But the DPP refused to order a UK trial, saying the bulk of the evidence was located in the US and Mr McKinnon's actions were directed against the US military infrastructure.
And two judges rejected his court bid to avoid extradition, ruling that it was "a lawful and proportionate response" to his offence, even though they conceded he might find extradition and prison in the US "very difficult indeed".
Mr McKinnon has already appealed unsuccessfully to the House of Lords and the European Court of Human Rights.
But the case has led to a political row, with Tory leader David Cameron saying it raised "serious questions" about the extradition pact between the US and UK.
Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Chris Huhne has argued the American government would not "hang one of their citizens out to dry in the same way".
A letter has been sent to President Obama signed by 40 British MPs asking him to step in and "bring this shameful episode to an end".
Mr McKinnon's mother, Janis Sharp, has also called on President Obama to intervene.
US-UK EXTRADITION TREATY
2003 treaty, agreed in aftermath of 9/11 attacks
Offence must be punishable by one year or more in jail in both countries
US has to prove "reasonable suspicion" for extradition of a British citizen
To extradite an American from the US, British must prove "probable cause"
Since 2004, 46 people have been sent from the UK to the US for trial, and 27 from the US to the UK

Guy needs to get on his toes and get out of the UK to somewhere without extradition treaty with the US.

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

Gary McKinnon: British hacker to be extradited

Gary McKinnon, the British hacker who infiltrated American military websites searching for proof of alien life, has lost his High Court appeal against extradition to the US.

Utter bullshit.

Kid is going to get banged up for years.

I hope the tin foil hats all go out and protest outside the embassy and call aliens down on it.

just to update on this, looks as though someone in the UK government fnally grew a pair of balls (ironic, as its a woman), and knocked it on the head:

Gary McKinnon extradition to US blocked by British government - live coverage | World news | guardian.co.uk


Only problem that the ground for the decision:

Theresa May must have found it galling to use the despised Human Rights Act as a get-out-of-jail-free card for Gary McKinnon- but there was no alternative to her using article 3 of the human rights convention, writes Joshua Rozenberg in an article for Guardian Law.
Article 3, he explains, says that no one shall be subjected to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

will allow that bastard aldhouse to wriggle free.......

It looks as if Assange may also be saved from being forwarded to USA after getting deported to Sweden, based on the Human Rights Act.

Fwk America and its slack security and military ambitions crap anyway, that country's caused more wars and destabilised more governments globally in sixty years than any other country in history.

All in the name of what? Democracy? Bull.