They're banding those sort of numbers about, I've heard, but it won't happen.
They've probably offered him a deal already - I guess around five years, minimum security.
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They're banding those sort of numbers about, I've heard, but it won't happen.
They've probably offered him a deal already - I guess around five years, minimum security.
With the Patriot act???!? They'll throw the book at him. Even if they don't his legal costs will be astronomical if he can find the money to get a lawyer who understands the complexity of the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nietzsche
He should be tried and jailed (if found guilty) in the UK where he was when he committed the alleged crime(s).
I'm not familiar with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by slackula
For sure. He's fucked.Quote:
They'll throw the book at him
Best thing all round.Quote:
He should be tried and jailed (if found guilty) in the UK where he was when he committed the alleged crime(s)
He'l only get a weak sentence over here, too.
:chitown: :rofl:
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He`ll probably get a large sentence, just for show. Then he`ll be transferred to some minimum security prison, where he will work off his time doing work for the government. Something similar to post WW2 with the Germans. Return to blighty a rich man, if he returns at all.
wow, they must have shite security on there websites/ servers etc, come on they are just making a example out of this guy, im pretty sure they are hacked regular by the Chinese and ruskies, but they cant do naff all about that.
Typical yanks going after the easy kill like usual.
They should be employing him, not sending him to prison because there own I.T department are crap and thick as fook.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
YouTube - NASA's Alien Anomalies caught on film - A compilation of stunning UFO footage from NASA's archives
Why bother hacking into def force and nasa comps anyhows ?
Plenty of UFO stuff on youtube.
60 would be the maximum. He's not a repeat offender so he won't get anything close to that. If found guilty he will probably only serve one year in a minimum security facility with a bunch of other white collar criminals and when he leaves he will have plenty of job opportunities. He needs to be careful not to be caught in a series of lies or the judge may opt for a harsher sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Brown
I hate hackers so.....:gwbush:....him.
I don't understand that sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsquirrel
Does repair mean installing a security level that should have been there from the beginning?
I don't really understand the logic of that either. If their security was crap, how is it his fault? I can't blame the guy who broke into my house for my not fitting a burglar alarm.
Utter bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
They use the Microsoft approach.:mid:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thetyim
BBC NEWS | UK | Hacker case 'cannot be blocked'
Hacker case 'cannot be blocked'
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2009/08/20.jpg Gary McKinnon suffers from Asperger's Syndrome
Home Secretary Alan Johnson has said he would be breaking the law if he blocked hacker Gary McKinnon's extradition. Mr McKinnon, from north London, who has Asperger's Syndrome, lost a court bid to avoid being extradited to the US.
The US wants to try the 43-year-old for what it calls the biggest military computer hack ever in 2001/02. He maintains he was seeking UFO evidence.
But writing in the Sunday Times, Mr Johnson said: "It would be unlawful for the home secretary to intervene."
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2005/11/91.jpghttps://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2005/08/29.jpg The crimes he is accused of are far from trivial https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2005/08/30.jpg
Alan Johnson
Home Secretary
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Mr Johnson's predecessor Jacqui Smith formally gave the go ahead for Mr McKinnon's extradition in October 2008.
He said after a court rules there is enough evidence, a home secretary can prevent an extradition only in very specific circumstances, none of which applied in Mr McKinnon's case.
In his article, the home secretary acknowledged that it was "understandable" that many would be sympathetic to "someone who appears to be a misguided, vulnerable young man".
But Mr Johnson added that "the crimes he is accused of are far from trivial" and said Mr McKinnon "should be tried fairly for them in a court of law and in the country where the impact of those crimes were felt".
The home secretary also denied that extradition law was wrong, arguing that it was appropriate for "an age where crime is increasingly indifferent to national borders".
'Very difficult'
Glasgow-born Mr McKinnon could face 60 years or more in prison if convicted in the US.
He admits hacking by accessing 97 government computers belonging to organisations such as the US Navy and Nasa, but denies it was malicious. He also denies the allegation he caused damage costing $800,000 (£487,000).
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Mr McKinnon has always insisted he was looking for classified documents on UFOs, which he believed the US authorities had suppressed.
He has challenged refusals by the home secretary and the director of public prosecutions (DPP) to try him in the UK.
But the DPP refused to order a UK trial, saying the bulk of the evidence was located in the US and Mr McKinnon's actions were directed against the US military infrastructure.
And two judges rejected his court bid to avoid extradition, ruling that it was "a lawful and proportionate response" to his offence, even though they conceded he might find extradition and prison in the US "very difficult indeed".
Mr McKinnon has already appealed unsuccessfully to the House of Lords and the European Court of Human Rights.
But the case has led to a political row, with Tory leader David Cameron saying it raised "serious questions" about the extradition pact between the US and UK.
Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Chris Huhne has argued the American government would not "hang one of their citizens out to dry in the same way".
A letter has been sent to President Obama signed by 40 British MPs asking him to step in and "bring this shameful episode to an end".
Mr McKinnon's mother, Janis Sharp, has also called on President Obama to intervene.
US-UK EXTRADITION TREATY
2003 treaty, agreed in aftermath of 9/11 attacks
Offence must be punishable by one year or more in jail in both countries
US has to prove "reasonable suspicion" for extradition of a British citizen
To extradite an American from the US, British must prove "probable cause"
Since 2004, 46 people have been sent from the UK to the US for trial, and 27 from the US to the UK
Guy needs to get on his toes and get out of the UK to somewhere without extradition treaty with the US.
just to update on this, looks as though someone in the UK government fnally grew a pair of balls (ironic, as its a woman), and knocked it on the head:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsquirrel
Gary McKinnon extradition to US blocked by British government - live coverage | World news | guardian.co.uk
Only problem that the ground for the decision:
Theresa May must have found it galling to use the despised Human Rights Act as a get-out-of-jail-free card for Gary McKinnon- but there was no alternative to her using article 3 of the human rights convention, writes Joshua Rozenberg in an article for Guardian Law.
Article 3, he explains, says that no one shall be subjected to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
will allow that bastard aldhouse to wriggle free.......
It looks as if Assange may also be saved from being forwarded to USA after getting deported to Sweden, based on the Human Rights Act.
Fwk America and its slack security and military ambitions crap anyway, that country's caused more wars and destabilised more governments globally in sixty years than any other country in history.
All in the name of what? Democracy? Bull.