Obama Lies About Bow to King Abdullah

**Butterfly** · 09-04-2009, 08:12 PM

I don't think Obama should have bowed,

but he is not a sellout like Bush, so I guess he could be excused

**Attilla the Hen** · 09-04-2009, 08:18 PM

GWB has also bowed the Saudi king.
What's the problem? Just good manners.

**Texpat** · 09-04-2009, 08:23 PM

I don't really care much either -- whatever the protocol dictates.
I am concerned that Obama isn't up to the task of being president.

He appears vulnerable. Perhaps that's why the world was pulling for him to become president.

I hope I'm wrong.

**dirtydog** · 09-04-2009, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

He appears vulnerable.

He is, Mr Saudi King has the oil....

**Texpat** · 09-04-2009, 09:49 PM

Ain't just the Saudis.

Russia's going to filet him if he's not careful.

He's a 40-something community organizer who's biggest asset is his skin color.

That'll wear off really quickly. (the aura, not the skin color)

**robuzo** · 09-04-2009, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

I don't really care much either -- whatever the protocol dictates.
I am concerned that Obama isn't up to the task of being president.

He appears vulnerable. Perhaps that's why the world was pulling for him to become president.

I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, too bad, we could have had GILF Palin an old man's heartbeat away from the "football", I'm sure the world would have felt much safer.

**Texpat** · 09-04-2009, 10:31 PM

No sense arguing about it now, rob. We have what we have.
Is it no longer healthy to voice opinions and express concerns?
Am I a racist for suggesting that my president is a novice?
Sorry, I don't play the empty rhetoric game. Take it somewhere else. Obama's my president and I'll apply the same criteria toward him as I have every other.

In my opinion he wasn't the best candidate. That doesn't mean I have to ridicule his every move. I view him with the same skeptical eye I view every US president.

I like his view on Cuba -- but it's symbolic, nothing to gain really. I like his views on Iraq -- force them to be a real government and get off Uncle Sam's tit. I like his views on rendition and unmanned drones attacking Pakistan targets.

He appears vulnerable. Does that opinion offend you?

**mordred** · 09-04-2009, 10:31 PM

So Obama gave a little bow out of respect for his position. I'd be willing to be Bush has been blowing this guy for years.

**robuzo** · 09-04-2009, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

No sense arguing about it now, rob. We have what we have.
Is it no longer healthy to voice opinions and express concerns?
Am I a racist for suggesting that my president is a novice?

Tex, why are people of your political bent always the first to bring up racism in regard to this president? Guilty conscience? In any case, no, of it course it isn't racist to oppose Obama.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Sorry, I don't play the empty rhetoric game. Take it somewhere else. Obama's my president and I'll apply the same criteria toward him as I have every other.

What "rhetoric game"? I was simply pointing out that as "vulnerable" as you think Obama makes the US appear, Palin was downright scary. McCain wasn't so bad. Obama is looking suspicious as hell right now re the bailout of the banksters, if you want to know what I think.

Originally Posted by Texpat

He appears vulnerable. Does that opinion offend you?

Not at all. Everything else being equal, I can't see how he looks more vulnerable than his predecessor, and if he is in a tough spot I don't see how one could argue that it isn't a result of the impossible mess Bush left him to clean up.

**Texpat** · 09-04-2009, 11:08 PM

your political bent

Care to define that?

**robuzo** · 09-04-2009, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

your political bent

Care to define that?

I'm assuming Oboma-hating soi disant conservative, I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong. Do things French offend you, btw? Or am I subscribing to a stereotype? (Stereotypes are a real time-saver, as the Onion says.)

**Texpat** · 09-04-2009, 11:34 PM

Let it loose Rob.

Everyone who didn't vote for Obama doesn't automatically hate him.
It's a very divisive attitude that I believe is detrimental to America as a whole.
This concept of pick-a-side, only one, because you're too lazy or too busy to weigh each policy on its merits ... does nobody any favors.

There's a tendency to commit -- and subsequently defend that commitment. I don't buy it. I didn't buy all the criticism of Bush and I don't buy all the criticism of Obama. This bowing thing for example.

**Butterfly** · 10-04-2009, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

I didn't buy all the criticism of Bush

correction, you don't buy any criticism of Bush period. Mainly, because you have a patriotic hardon for the man.

**Boon Mee** · 10-04-2009, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by mordred

So Obama gave a little bow out of respect for his position. I'd be willing to be Bush has been blowing this guy for years.

A little bow! Hell, man, he was 'bout sucking that A-Rab's dick!

**Agent_Smith** · 10-04-2009, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

He's a 40-something community organizer who's biggest asset is his skin color.

His biggest asset is he's willing to tackle problems with a measure of intelligence and fortitude, unlike his predecessor.

Originally Posted by Texpat

He appears vulnerable.

Vulnerable to what? Kryptonite?

**lysander** · 10-04-2009, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by mordred

So Obama gave a little bow out of respect for his position. I'd be willing to be Bush has been blowing this guy for years.

A little bow! Hell, man, he was 'bout sucking that A-Rab's dick!

You're stuck with him for the next 4 years. Are you going to spend all that time trying to kick the stool from under him? What happened to your unconditional love for POTUS? Or should that be POTWUS?

**tuktukdriver** · 10-04-2009, 07:25 AM

I remember seeing a vid of ex-president Clinton wai a doorman in Bangkok. To me, that was worse than this.

**Jools** · 10-04-2009, 09:39 AM

As an inveterate Muslim-hater from the age of ten, I honestly cannot see the problem with Obama's "fealty". It's called diplomacy. It's in the same league as his statement about America not being or ever will be at war with Islam. Any low-level security wonk knows otherwise, it's just one of those things you can't say out loud. Butter 'em up and let 'em think you are philosophically at odds with all that came before. It may just work. It certainly can't hurt. Obama works for big business...just like all presidents before him. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive in the extreme.

**BugginOut** · 10-04-2009, 09:48 AM

^^Obama is just another player in the false two-party paradigm.

**Lambik** · 11-04-2009, 08:59 AM

"For many conservatives, the defining image of Mr Obama’s European tour was not the adoring crowds but the way America’s new president bowed before the king of Saudi Arabia."
~The Economist~

**Boon Mee** · 12-04-2009, 01:09 AM

It depends on what your definition of ‘bow’ is…

The Obama administration is still denying that the president bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, but Fox News has the best “dancing around the word ‘bow’” analysis so far:

A video of the greeting shows Obama significantly stooping before the 84-year-old monarch.

Significantly stooping!

**nikster** · 12-04-2009, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Panda

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

What a bunch of obama a** licking hypocrites. If a Republican prez or politician did this, you would all be up in arms and yakking about it for weeks. Americans do not bow or grovel to royalty. That's why they're Americans -- no royalty.
Stupid people who cannot see past the black glitz right here.

A-HAHAHAHAHA LOL

You know, Obama may have, um, "bowed" (if it can really be called that) to some Saudi King, but at least he didn't have all his money tied up with the Saudis the way the Bush family has...

Sadly it seems that Obama-hating is now the new pastime for Republicans. It doesn't really help anyone, but that's what they've been reduced to.

**nikster** · 12-04-2009, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Jools

As an inveterate Muslim-hater from the age of ten, I honestly cannot see the problem with Obama's "fealty". It's called diplomacy. It's in the same league as his statement about America not being or ever will be at war with Islam. Any low-level security wonk knows otherwise, it's just one of those things you can't say out loud. Butter 'em up and let 'em think you are philosophically at odds with all that came before. It may just work. It certainly can't hurt. Obama works for big business...just like all presidents before him. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive in the extreme.

It's not about reasoning. Never was. Its good old mud-slinging...

**Carnwadrick** · 12-04-2009, 10:49 AM

You are all full of sh**t the real story is there were two news pool cameras: the one for the U.S. media shows him shaking hands but the other for the Muslim world has him bowing to his flipping knees...the bugger didn't expect the rest of the world to see the mussie version...that's the real story

**Lambik** · 12-04-2009, 05:49 PM

Maybe it is more elusive, did he :
~Bow down~?
~Bow low~?
~Bow out~? or
~Took a bow~?

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