Thread: UK Hacker loses extradition appeal, he was only looking for UFOs

Originally Posted by Norton

For me"big brother" watching us all and the ridiculous justification being my security, is of far greater concern than some misguided nut clearly guilty of hacking into a computer.

Can't you see that both issues are different sides of the same coin?

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

An overzealous US prosecutor could take the email, along with a spurious allegation that you went to the pub to discuss terrorism, and get a grand jury indictment within hours.

There isn't a nation in the world where this is not the case. The UK did just this recently. What about "poor what's his name" convicted of being a terrorist supporter?

But Norton, you miss the main point. The UK did not extradite him from anywhere. He was in the UK, plotted in the UK and was plotting against the UK. Rightly he was charged, tried, convicted and is being punished in the UK.

This whole matter (and the hypothetical example) is about the inherant injustice of irrational extradition.

Does this mean Maew will be coming back soon?

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

^You are starting to see why, when you look into this matter, there is more to this than meets they eye!

The problem is, when you add to the treaty issue the fact that the prosecution are on record that they want to see the defendent "fry", then I do share your confidence on his likely treatment.

Well, he won't fry . . . if the prosecution were to seek the death penalty then the UK would NOT extradite him. No European country would.

As for US citizens not going to Cuba . . . I met a few when I was there . . . US companies are not allowed to invest in Cuba. . . the travel crap has been ignored of late.

As for the US-Cuba spat . . . again the US is on its own in this ridiculous charade based on the votes of a rabble in Florida.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

^You are starting to see why, when you look into this matter, there is more to this than meets they eye!

The problem is, when you add to the treaty issue the fact that the prosecution are on record that they want to see the defendent "fry", then I do share your confidence on his likely treatment.

Well, he won't fry . . . if the prosecution were to seek the death penalty then the UK would NOT extradite him. No European country would.

Correct, but typical US gung-ho wishful thinking.

Originally Posted by panama hat

As for US citizens not going to Cuba . . . I met a few when I was there . . . US companies are not allowed to invest in Cuba. . . the travel crap has been ignored of late.

But it didn't stop the US from downing the travel website, did it?

Originally Posted by panama hat

As for the US-Cuba spat . . . again the US is on its own in this ridiculous charade based on the votes of a rabble in Florida.

Correct.

Originally Posted by Norton

For me"big brother" watching us all and the ridiculous justification being my security, is of far greater concern than some misguided nut clearly guilty of hacking into a computer.

totally agree...sadly enough.....

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

Originally Posted by Norton

For me"big brother" watching us all and the ridiculous justification being my security, is of far greater concern than some misguided nut clearly guilty of hacking into a computer.

Can't you see that both issues are different sides of the same coin?

I'll grant there is some of that but your taking that out on the wrong people, you need to address your concerns to Osama, most of the current issues are his idea...

Originally Posted by pai nai ma

Originally Posted by bkkandrew

I am scared.

Don't be. You can have ajarn alcoholics spot in the life raft.

The life raft has been moved to the IceBox. Go in and get aboard if your postcount is over 20,000.

^^Osama? As in Bin Laden?

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

Originally Posted by Norton For me"big brother" watching us all and the ridiculous justification being my security, is of far greater concern than some misguided nut clearly guilty of hacking into a computer.

That is for sure

Isn't a sovereign nation determined to create an environment that reflects it's citizenry a noble idea?

Have a look at history. Current and ancient, at those that have relinquished it...

The good side of this is he will be forced to move out of his mom's home. The bad side is that he will be moving into a place (prison) where there are only two types of people; the meat eaters and the meat. You have to decide what type you are, but honestly speaking this guy has been thrown to the lions. When he returns home he won't be sitting down for a while.

No, no, no... It's the most civilized place on the planet.

The'll only sell him down the river if Prince Harry has any involvement....

Then he's phucked.

I agree with Norton, this guy has too much skill and ability to be rotting away in jail. The US will surely have a better use for him.