Schapelle Corby - Guilty or not?

**DrAndy** · 27-04-2012, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by terry57

unfortunately ENT is way of the mark.

no surprise there

but you have no evidence of your assertion, Terry

why should we believe you?

**aging one** · 27-04-2012, 04:32 PM

That was old me!, and thats the exact story I heard. Here in Thailand, and from my old Balinese friends when I visited almost two years ago now. Its hearsay but remember Mercedes is married to an old dope smoking Balinese hippy. Makes sense but cant be stated as fact. But its the best theory I have seen or heard.

**Little Chuchok** · 27-04-2012, 05:49 PM

She's got great tits.Not guilty.Easy really....

**aging one** · 27-04-2012, 05:52 PM

Dont you mean "had" she has put on 20k in the jail, and aged 20 years. Must be nearing the navel now.

**Little Chuchok** · 27-04-2012, 06:39 PM

^how can she put on 20k in a jail in Asia? If she has, it means her tits are bigger.Nice...

**terry57** · 27-04-2012, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

but you have no evidence of your assertion, Terry

Why should we believe you?

Considering its an anonymous INTERNET forum Doc I don't expect you too believe anything except to be objective and consider what could be possible and what is away with the fairies.

ENT will tell you that corrupt Australian Workers put the mull in Corbies bag to smuggle it interstate but they fuked up and it went to Bali instead. ???

One would have to be a friggin fuk up to believe that.

Some other shit about a cover up for a Cocaine run.

Yes thats what happened. ???? Must be nuts to believe that one.

Or consider the real story that has been passed to me concerning the actual drug run.

Corby's Old man is growing Hydro which is fact. Corby's sister is living in Bali long term with a Balinese partner. Shapelle is a frequent visitor along side other family members.

Family has a history of dealing drugs and using drugs supported by pictures of the Sisters smoking cones. Not a problem as long as one does it at home.

Corby gets busted at Airport with Hydro which they had been importing with bribes paid to corrupt Immigration officials to smooth the way.

Bali Immigration are corrupt as fuk, only last year they where busted pocketing much of the $25 US Visa on arrival Fee.

We know that Bali Immigration and other government officials are corrupt, same as Thailand, wages are bad corruption is excepted as standard practice.

Corby's bribe goes missing somewhere along the line and the corrupt fukers decide to bring her down.

The only variable is Corby's younger brother who has been implicated concerning the missing bribe.

Make sense up against ENT ravings ?

Course it does.

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**DrAndy** · 27-04-2012, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by terry57

Make sense up against ENT ravings ?

yes, but so does believing in fairies

**ENT** · 27-04-2012, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by DrAndy

but you have no evidence of your assertion, Terry

Why should we believe you?

ENT will tell you that corrupt Australian Workers put the mull in Corbies bag to smuggle it interstate but they fuked up and it went to Bali instead. ???

Or consider the real story that has been passed to me concerning the actual drug run.

Corby's Old man is growing Hydro which is fact. Corby's sister is living in Bali long term with a Balinese partner. Shapelle is a frequent visitor along side other family members.

Family has a history of dealing drugs and using drugs supported by pictures of the Sisters smoking cones. Not a problem as long as one does it at home.
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So a mate of a mate of yours passed on what he heard at smoko or at the pub or somewhere to you, and that's the real story?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it mate.

Then there's the Duff book, it's claims have since been rubbished by the AFP and the informants' relatives.

If the Corby family were as involved in dealing drugs as much as you reckon, best ya tell the cops, eh, bro, even they don't know about it.
Two of her half brothers have been busted for a mixture of offences one was investigated for drug dealing and that case was dropped.

They even checked the old man out and only busted him for a joint. Big deal.
Like you say,"Not a problem as long as one does it at home."

And where's these pics of the sisters chuffing cones?
They don't exist mate.

I found one of Mercedes sucking on something odd, but it wasn't a cone, when she was 17 years old.
Again, as you say, "Not a problem as long as one does it at home."

And you know bloody well that tons of grass are shipped interstate in Oz, now it's by road since the airport baggage handlers got busted.
And a hell of a lot of it ends up in Perth!

Bloody great story mate, got any more?

**Fondles** · 27-04-2012, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by ENT

Then there's the Duff book, it's claims have since been rubbished by the AFP and the informants' relatives.

Got a link that references this ?

**ENT** · 27-04-2012, 09:32 PM

The JournOz Media Project
NOTE ON EAMONN DUFF:

A full investigation into the reporting of Eamonn Duff, of Fairfax Media, has recently been published by The Expendable Project. The disturbing, Primary Smear Report, can be viewed here, in its entirety.

The Schapelle Corby Media Project

**Fondles** · 27-04-2012, 10:46 PM

Yeah maybe something from the two you mentioned, the AFP or the Family.

I assume there is something, right ?

**DrAndy** · 27-04-2012, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Fondles

I assume there is something, right ?

you assume there are all sorts of things, right?

**ENT** · 29-04-2012, 11:30 AM

Jakarta hints at Schapelle Corby and people smugglers clemency in Australia deal
AFP From: AFP April 25, 2012 11:35AM

INDONESIA has suggested people smugglers should receive clemency in Australia in exchange for reducing Schapelle Corby's sentence.

Indonesia's justice minister said yesterday he did not oppose reducing the Australian drug trafficker’s jail term, but said Indonesians in Australian prisons should also receive clemency.

Corby, 34, was convicted in 2005 of smuggling more than four kilograms of marijuana and is serving a 20-year sentence at the overcrowded Kerobokan prison on the resort island of Bali.

She filed for clemency in 2010, and the justice ministry says it recommended last year that President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono reduce her jail term by five years.

But Justice Minister Amir Syamsuddin said any decision on Corby should be reciprocated by Australia, which he said had "hundreds" of Indonesians in jail, mostly for people smuggling.

"So if it's clear that we are paying attention to the plight of Corby, in reciprocity we hope there will be the same kind of attention from there (Australia)," he said.

"Generally, the Australian Government is very strict in its laws, especially with regards to those linked to people trafficking.

“These are poor fishermen involved in people smuggling. There are hundreds of them there."

He did not spell out whether a decision by Canberra on jailed Indonesians was a precondition for Corby receiving a sentence reduction.

Under Indonesian law the president has the final decision on clemency, including the power to order an immediate release, but is under no obligation to respond to the ministry's recommendation or appeals by Corby's lawyer.
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I reckon that's a great idea!
(Note how the biased little twit starts off calling them people traffickers, not smugglers!)

Instead of keeping the people smugglers, described by Indonesia's justice minister as "poor Indonesian fishermen", in clean and well fed condition by the Oz gov. and at huge cost to the taxpayer, send them back to Indonesia and swap them for Corby and the rest of the Ozies stuck in their rotten jails.

That way the Indonesians can have the people smuggling problem where it belongs, in Indonesia.
Ozy doesn't want them, been trying to get them back to Indo for years.

Good idea!

**ENT** · 01-05-2012, 07:41 PM

'Indonesia's strict anti-drug policy, strictly for the tourists only, apparently.
An insight to Indonesian marijuana use and drug traffic.

In the 1960s and 70's, Sumatran ganja along with Thai "Buddah sticks" made up the main imports to both Australia and new Zealand.
Quality was considered good, competing with S.American and S African grass at the time.
It has not deteriorated in strength over the years and is still in demand as can be seen by this list below of quantities normally caught, about maybe 4-5% of what is in fact shifted through Indonesia.

Penalty for Indonesians found in possession of marijuana.
Personal use in small amounts: Maximum sentence of 4 years in prison (additional fines may apply) if caught by the police in possession, intoxication or by positive urine test. However, if the user voluntarily reports himself/herself to the police, or is reported by his/her family, the sentence shall be no more than 6 months in prison or a fine of not more than Rp 2.000.000 (two million Indonesian Rupiah/US$200–250).[43]
Legality of cannabis by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Marijuana, A Curry Flavorings BANDA ACEH, (TAG) – Of all the tales of miraculous, one in particular has some people of Indonesia’ Aceh province reaching for their cooking pots. At least one crop, thanks to the fact that it grown in the remote hills, mixed to be curry flavorings.
There’s no need time to take care and maintain it. It’s also no need providing fertilizer to fertile it. The crop grows on it owns after seed sowing. Thanks once again for the arable hilly land in Aceh. Someone just waiting for several months to harvest. Sometimes, they plant a piece in a secret hiding place to monitor the growing.

In Aceh, even for the poor, tradition states that we should eat meat curry at least three times a year. One or two days before Ramadan, at the end of Ramadan and before the celebrations for the Haj" annual pilgrimage. But most people don’t use marijuana seeds in their curry that cooking at home.
"It all comes from the hill. I can get you some if you want," says another, a 55-year-old man working in one of the food stalls in Banda Aceh, with a laugh. He added that marijuana has suffered more harm from police intensively hunt in the latest years, but for them it’s nothing difficult to get it. Marijuana, A Curry Flavorings ~ The Aceh Globe

Indonesia, though predominantly Muslim like its Malaysian neighbor to the north, Indonesia neither possesses the resources to fight a drug war, nor is it interested in one. ... Aceh has long been one of the region's biggest suppliers of marijuana,... if you're smoking weed anywhere in Indonesia, it's more than likely that it came from Aceh. And if you're brave enough to venture there,... you'll be handsomely rewarded with top- quality marijuana. In towns like Ketambe (where you can smoke joints ...marijuana flows freely: literally, the locals will give it to you, if you ask.
Mhttp://www.aboutmytravel.com/main.php3?action=displayarticle&artid=359

1,000 police 'on drugs' in Indonesia's Aceh
Wednesday, Dec 14, 2011
BANDA ACEH, Indonesia - Nearly 1,000 police officers found to have used drugs in Indonesia's staunchly Muslim Aceh province will be given a month to get clean or face dismissal, police said Wednesday.

The officers, representing at least six per cent of the provincial police force, failed drug tests carried out by the National Narcotics Agency, Aceh police chief Iskandar Hasan told AFP.
The police tested positive for a range of drugs, including crystal methamphetamine, known commonly as ice, marijuana, and MDMA, the active drug in ecstasy pills.

Police have sent 189 officers so far to month-long rehabilitation.
"We will give them a month to see whether they will change their ways or not. If they cannot change, we'll fire them," he said.

Hasan said marijuana use was widespread in the region, where the plant is cultivated and traditionally used in cooking and added to beverages.

Aceh police two weeks ago seized and destroyed around two tonnes of the plant.
"Drugs are easy to find in Aceh, and this matter has not got a lot of attention in the past," he said.
Aceh, on the northernmost tip of Sumatra island, is a known gateway for trafficking drugs, especially for crystal methamphetamine entering the country.

Indonesia enforces stiff penalties, including the death sentence and life imprisonment, for drug trafficking.
It also criminalises personal drug use, recently sentencing a 14-year-old Australian boy to two months' imprisonment for buying 6.9 grams of marijuana.

Police said, however, that the officers would not be arrested, despite the strict sharia laws that apply to the Muslim majority.

1,000 police 'on drugs' in Indonesia's Aceh

Marijuana busts in Indonesia
While letting the police off for drug use in Aceh, other Indonesians were not so lucky.

Police seize 1.16 tons of marijuana in Jambi
Police detained a truck driver and seized 1.16 tons of dried marijuana, worth Rp2 billion, which was being carried by a truck from Aceh on the Trans-Sumatra highway in Muarojambi district early Thursday.
Posted in Drugs @ 19 April 2012

Grandmother caught selling marijuana
Police caught a 73-year old grandmother while she was about to sell five kilograms of marijuana in front of the Matur sub-district office here on Wednesday.
Posted in Drugs @ 21 March 2012

The Narcotics unit of the Deli Serdang police in North Sumatra, has arrested a drug runner. More than 80 kilograms of marijuana were also seized. The pot most likely originated from the province of Aceh, the northernmost province of Sumatra. The runner, Fitriadi, is a resident of the village of Kotasan in Galang and has been arrested.

The customs at the international airport of Polonia near Medan have seized some 43 kilograms of marijuana that was about to be smuggled into the country via the city in North Sumatra. The head of the narcotics brigade at the airport, Jukiman Situmorang, confirmed the big catch. He added that the marijuana was detected when it went through the x-ray machine at the airport.
Posted in Drugs @ 25 November 2009

The regional police of Sukabumi has seized some 1.74 tons of dried marijuana when it raided a house in the city of Sukabumi last Friday. The raid was a joint operation between the National Narcotics Brigade and the police in the region. The total value of the drugs is estimated at 6 billion Rupiah (410.000 euro). The drugs were already prepared for distribution. Four suspects were arrested during the raid.
Posted in Drugs @ 13 September 2009

The local police in Depok have succeeded in seizing 89 kilograms of marijuana ready to be distributed in a boarding house in the Pancoran Mas Permai housing complex in the city in West Java province. The police was not able to arrest the person who was about to distribute the drugs, only known by his initials A.Y.
Posted in Drugs @ 12 August 2009

The anti-drugs unit from the Jakarta police succeeded in breaking down an ecstasy factory in an apartment in the Gading Mediterania complex in Kelapa Gading, North Jakarta. Three people were arrested in the apartment. Police also found evidence in the form of 17 kilo's of marijuana (worth 1.1 million euro), 31.000 tablets of ecstasy (worth 390.000 euro) , chemicals and equipment to make the drugs.
Posted in Drugs @ 16 January 2009

As much as 18 kilograms of marijuana was seized by the regional police of Tangerang. They also arrested a person only known by the initials E.S., which is said to be the owner of these illegal goods. In front of cameras E.S. told reporters that the goods originated from Aceh. He bought them in Cilegon, Banten. "The marijuana is from Aceh, and I bought it in Cilegon," he said to reporters. He paid some 800.000 Rupiah (55 euro) per kilogram for it in Cilegon and was able to sell it at around two million Rupiah (138 euro) per kilogram again.
Posted in Drugs @ 17 June 2008

Malaysian police have detained five Indonesian men believed to have been trying to smuggle in 90 blocks of marijuana worth 180,000 ringgit (39.100 euro), a news report said Friday. Police from the central Selangor state discovered the drugs hidden in a car driven by one of the suspects late Wednesday, said head of narcotics Abdul Jalil Hassan.
Posted in Drugs @ 19 January 2007

This site has a list of drug busts in Indonesia over the last few years, the only ones I've picked out are those involving marijuana.
Most of the busts are for hard drugs, methamphetamine and ecstacy being the most common.
blog.indahnesia.com - 'Drugs' overview - Discover Indonesia Online

Marijuana Smuggling Foiled in Sumatra
February 21, 2012
Aceh Man Caught Smuggling 35 Kilograms of Marijuana to Medan 4:06pm Apr 28, 2012
Lampung Police found themselves knee-deep in grass on Monday after searching a truck that turned out to contain 3,500 bricks of dried marijuana.
The 3.5-ton drug haul was discovered as the truck waited to board a ferry to cross the Sunda Strait at Bakauheni Port in South Lampung.

Police arrested two men who they said admitted to being offered Rp 15 million ($1,700) to drive the truck to Jakarta from Lampung’s Tulang Bawang district.
Marijuana Smuggling Foiled in Sumatra | The Jakarta Globe

North Sumatra police have arrested an Acehnese civil servant allegedly attempting to smuggle 35 kilograms of marijuana from Aceh to Medan.
The arrest was made by North Sumatra’s Binjai Timur police as Muhammad Lephia, from the Aceh district of Aceh Tamiang, drove his car through Binjai Timur on his way to Medan.
Police found Lephia had hidden 35 kilograms of dry marijuana leaves behind the panels inside of his car, metrotvnews.com reported on Saturday.
Binjai Timur Police chief Adj. Comr. Ismui said Lephia admitted to serving as a delivery man and being paid Rp 200,000 ($22) per kilogram of dry marijuana leaves he delivered to an unknown person in Medan.
Lephia said he had agreed to deliver the marijuana to pay the bills for his car, which has now been seized by police.

Ismui said police had been suspicious of Lephia’s activities for some time, and had been monitoring his activity for two weeks before the arrest.
He added police would charge Lephia with the 2009 Law on Narcotics, and that he might face a minimum of 15 years in jail.
Under Indonesian law, a person found guilty of distributing more than 5 grams of marijuana might face the death penalty.
Aceh Man Caught Smuggling 35 Kilograms of Marijuana to Medan | The Jakarta Globe

Police in Parung, West Java, arrested three men believed to be drug dealers and another one believed to be a drug user who between them had 183.5 kilograms of marijuana worth Rp 300 million ($33,000).
Parung Police Chief Deny Heryanto said the marijuana was brought from Aceh and delivered by a trans-Sumatra bus driver named Bontan. One of the dealers, Ardianto, said there was a total of 400 kg of marijuana from Aceh and that police only seized what had not been circulated.

Bontan said he was just a delivery man for a major dealer named Andiyanto.
Police fund 136 kilograms of marijuana and a scale in Andiyanto’s house. Andiyanto said he didn’t have a choice but to sell drugs because he had been unemployed for four years.
Police Grab 4 in West Java Pot Bust | The Jakarta Globe

Although Aceh Muslims are calling for the death penalty under Sharia law for drug smuggling in Indonesia, most of the country's marijuana is grown there by Muslims.

Figure that one out.

**kingwilly** · 01-05-2012, 08:51 PM

Jaysus, Mary and Joseph, someone started bEnt again.....

o a mate of a mate of yours passed on what he heard at smoko or at the pub or somewhere to you, and that's the real story?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it mate

The irony is fukkin palpable, how do you say that with a straight face bEnt?

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**ENT** · 01-05-2012, 10:37 PM

Easy,

**BKKBanger** · 02-05-2012, 09:43 AM

ENT,

Your point on personal use of Class I narcotics in Indonesia is wrong, Wikipedia are spreading poor quality info and if you believe it you may do some hard time. The max senstence under the Law is:
(1) Anybody whomsoever without any rights or illegally:
a. Grow, cultivate, have in stock, possess, keep, or controls narcotics Category I in the form of plants; or
b. Possess, keep in stock, or control narcotics Group 1, other than in the form of plants, shall be punished with an imprisonment of not more than ten years and a fine of not more than IDR. 500,000,000.00 (Five hundred million rupiahs).
(2) If narcotic crime as referred to in clause (1) is preceded by a conspiracy, the imprisonment shall be not less than two years and not more than twelve years. And a fine of not less than IDR.25,000,000. (Twenty-five million rupiahs) and not more than IDR. 75,000,000. (Seventy-five million rupiahs).
(3) If narcotic crime as referred to in clause (1) is committed as an organized crime, the imprisonment shall be not less than three years and not more than fifteen (15) years and a fine of not less than IDR 100,000,000. (One hundred million rupiahs) and not more than IDR 2,500,000,000. (Two billion five hundred million rupiahs).
(4) If narcotic crime as referred to in clause (1) is committed by a corporation, it shall be subject to a fine of not more than IDR. 5,000,000,000. (Five billion rupiahs).

Best advice for you is to steer clear of Indonesia, drugs there make you a walking target for the police.

**ENT** · 02-05-2012, 10:20 AM

So why are the locals using the stuff and the police not prosecuted for blatant drug abuse?
Point (1) Who then has rights to legally grow etc?
Obviously (1) a. the growers
The rest of the conditions outlined refer to conspiring to sell etc.
So some can and some can't indulge in ganja in Indonesia.

**BKKBanger** · 03-05-2012, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by ENT

So why are the locals using the stuff and the police not prosecuted for blatant drug abuse?
Point (1) Who then has rights to legally grow etc?
Obviously (1) a. the growers
The rest of the conditions outlined refer to conspiring to sell etc.
So some can and some can't indulge in ganja in Indonesia.

1. They are prosecuted.

2. Police do get prosecuted for it, but you have to be pretty hard up and have no mates as a policemen to be prosecuted for anything.

3. You can legally grow it if you have a permit and come under the exceptions to the Law. Drug production or possession of a Class I drug is illegal UNLESS you come under an exception. There is nothing to stop an individual or comapny applying to the Ministry for a permit to grow cannabis though it is likely to be declined unless it was demonstrably part of a legitimate medicinal venture.

4. I doubt very much the growers in Aceh have any permit, let alone an ID card or a motorcycle licence. It is therefore an activity that can lead to a conviction under the Law. All it needs is a bloody big bag of drugs in your possession (ask Schorby).

5. No one can indulge in a Class I narcotic in Indonesia unless prescribed by a physician and they have a prescription that allows them to come under the exemptions.

Basically, they should all be arrested and excecuted or imprisoned regardless of whether they are cute Aussie surf chick or a down and out Indo bum. Do drugs in Indo and you are wide open to arrest, extortion and other such stuff.

**aging one** · 03-05-2012, 11:40 AM

The Immigration officers in Bali have been busy. Ruskies now.

Two Russians Arrested in Indonesia Over Drugs

Denpasar. Two Russians who swallowed hashish capsules face the death penalty after being arrested for suspected drug smuggling on the Indonesian resort island of Bali, an official said on Monday.

Yoga teacher Alexander Simonov, 30, was arrested last Tuesday and art designer Sergei Chernykh, 43, was held two days later after arriving on a Malaysia Airlines flight from Kuala Lumpur.

“We were suspicious because their stomachs were hard. We then detected hashish capsules in their stomachs after an X-ray scan,” head of customs at Ngurah Rai airport, Made Wijaya, told reporters.

He added that two “do not know each other” and are believed to have consumed the hashish in India. Both face the death penalty if convicted.

Simonov had swallowed 88 capsules weighing 915 grams (32 ounces) while Chernykh had swallowed 359 capsules weighing 695 grams, Wijaya said, adding that the drugs had a total street value of 966 million rupiah ($105,300).

Indonesia enforces stiff penalties, including life imprisonment and death, for drug trafficking.

Agence France-Presse
Here is one, they all get a free t shirt though.

**Cujo** · 03-05-2012, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by aging one

The Immigration officers in Bali have been busy. Ruskies now.

Two Russians Arrested in Indonesia Over Drugs

Denpasar. Two Russians who swallowed hashish capsules face the death penalty after being arrested for suspected drug smuggling on the Indonesian resort island of Bali, an official said on Monday.

Yoga teacher Alexander Simonov, 30, was arrested last Tuesday and art designer Sergei Chernykh, 43, was held two days later after arriving on a Malaysia Airlines flight from Kuala Lumpur.

“We were suspicious because their stomachs were hard. We then detected hashish capsules in their stomachs after an X-ray scan,” head of customs at Ngurah Rai airport, Made Wijaya, told reporters.

He added that two “do not know each other” and are believed to have consumed the hashish in India. Both face the death penalty if convicted.

Simonov had swallowed 88 capsules weighing 915 grams (32 ounces) while Chernykh had swallowed 359 capsules weighing 695 grams, Wijaya said, adding that the drugs had a total street value of 966 million rupiah ($105,300).

Indonesia enforces stiff penalties, including life imprisonment and death, for drug trafficking.

Agence France-Presse
Here is one, they all get a free t shirt though.

Why is this in the shappelle corby guilty or not thread?

**aging one** · 03-05-2012, 11:50 AM

To show the silliness people will go to try and make a little extra cash. The same as Shappelle did.

**BKKBanger** · 07-05-2012, 02:29 PM

Here you can see two other upstanding members of the international community who are unwitting scapegoats of corrupt Indonesia.

The only evidence against them is that they were each found with a bloody big bag of drugs. No fingerprints or nuthin.

FREE THE BALI TWO TODAY!!!!!

**harrybarracuda** · 07-05-2012, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by BKKBanger

Here you can see two other upstanding members of the international community who are unwitting scapegoats of corrupt Indonesia.

The only evidence against them is that they were each found with a bloody big bag of drugs. No fingerprints or nuthin.

FREE THE BALI TWO TODAY!!!!!

That's rubbish. I'm sure ENT will testify as a fact that Indonesian customs are so corrupt that they planted the drugs in the victim's stomachs without their knowledge.

**BKKBanger** · 08-05-2012, 07:28 AM

And took the $1000 that the real smugglers left with the bag because they are really corrupt AND dishonest.

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