Thread: Airline News

It looks like we may now have stranded Russians (few that they are) here in Thailand as Transaero are being put into bankruptcy. As probably the main Russian carrier in to Phuket this is another blow.

TASS: Business & Economy - Decision made for Transaero to go bankrupt

It appears that things might be looking up for Thai airways as European destinations pickup. The planned retirement of eight 7347-400's has been postponed.

Thai Airways Part 1: Europe capacity growth resumes as 747-400 retirements are postponed | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Originally Posted by toslti

It appears that things might be looking up for Thai airways as European destinations pickup. The planned retirement of eight 7347-400's has been postponed.

Thai Airways Part 1: Europe capacity growth resumes as 747-400 retirements are postponed | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Less planes = less flight and cabin crew + less landing fees + less administration etc.\

I can't help but think this is a cost cutting measure.

US Regulator in Thailand to Inspect Aviation Safety

BANGKOK — U.S. authorities are in Thailand to inspect progress made in aviation safety standards after it told the country to address shortcomings or face a downgrade, the transport minister said today.

The three-day inspection comes after the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration, or FAA, gave Thai aviation authorities 65 days in July to take corrective measures over what it said were critical omissions in its commercial aviation safety standards.

Thailand faces a downgrade from a category 1 to a category 2 if it does not show improvement.

That could impact the industry's credibility after the United Nations' aviation agency downgraded safety ratings for Thailand's civil aviation body in June.

Carriers could also face a flight ban to the United States – although no Thai-registered airline currently operates direct flights to the United States.

Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittayapaisith said Thailand had addressed and rectified 35 problem areas identified by the U.S. regulator and a decision over whether to downgrade Thailand will come next month.

"The FAA is here to follow up our progress on six major points and 35 issues they raised," Arkhom told reporters in Bangkok. "I've been told that we have solved them all."

"This is an important issue that we need to solve because it will affect the Thai aviation sector in the long-term," he added, without specifying what action Thailand had taken to improve safety.

In March, South Korea, Japan and China stopped Thailand-based airlines from flying charters and new routes because of safety concerns raised in an international audit. Those restrictions have since been relaxed.

The inspection comes at a time when Thailand's vital tourism sector is making an impressive rebound after anti-government protests in 2014 took a heavy toll on tourism in the capital Bangkok and a bomb attack in August killed 20 people, more than half of them foreigners.

A record 30.3 million tourists are expected to visit this year, the tourism council said last week.

Arkhom said the FAA would give its decision on whether to downgrade Thailand next month.

US Regulator in Thailand to Inspect Aviation Safety

Fifteen people were injured when a plane's engine caught fire as it taxied for take-off from an airport in Florida.
The Dynamic Airways Boeing 767 was on the runway at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, preparing for departure to Venezuela.
The left engine, which had been leaking fuel, caught fire.


The passengers and crew were evacuated and the fire extinguished but one person has been left with severe burns.
"The crew followed the emergency procedures, shut down the engine and evacuated the aircraft in order to assure safety to all on board," Dynamic Airways said in a statement.


Those hurt are being treated at Florida Broward Health Medical Center in Fort Lauderdale.
One person has been "seriously burnt", according to Mike Jachles of the Broward County Sheriff's Office.
The National Transportation Safety Board is sending agents to Fort Lauderdale to investigate the fire.
Dynamic flies between Fort Lauderdale, New York, Venezuela and Guyana.


Several hurt after plane engine catches fire in Florida - BBC News



They were going to take off with an engine leaking fuel!!!!!


And this in a country that gives yellow and red cards to others aviation industries.


Take the plank from your own eye before you take the splinter from your neighbours comes to mind.

Originally Posted by birding

Fifteen people were injured when a plane's engine caught fire as it taxied for take-off from an airport in Florida.
The Dynamic Airways Boeing 767 was on the runway at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, preparing for departure to Venezuela.
The left engine, which had been leaking fuel, caught fire.


The passengers and crew were evacuated and the fire extinguished but one person has been left with severe burns.
"The crew followed the emergency procedures, shut down the engine and evacuated the aircraft in order to assure safety to all on board," Dynamic Airways said in a statement.


Those hurt are being treated at Florida Broward Health Medical Center in Fort Lauderdale.
One person has been "seriously burnt", according to Mike Jachles of the Broward County Sheriff's Office.
The National Transportation Safety Board is sending agents to Fort Lauderdale to investigate the fire.
Dynamic flies between Fort Lauderdale, New York, Venezuela and Guyana.


Several hurt after plane engine catches fire in Florida - BBC News



They were going to take off with an engine leaking fuel!!!!!


And this in a country that gives yellow and red cards to others aviation industries.


Take the plank from your own eye before you take the splinter from your neighbours comes to mind.

Come on, I'm not exactly patriotic, but that's not a fair analogy. The incident will be investigated and if the airline or some other entity was found to have committed a violation of law or act of incompetence that lead to this leak, charges will be brought and fines will be imposed.

That's the difference between the US and Thailand, there is and will be accountability. Some Thai elite who owned an airline would likely face no consequence for this, and the media would be subject to their silly libel and slander laws for even reporting that the airline or its mechanics screwed up.

Not only is it not a fair analogy, it's pointless bullshit.

Accidents happen. It's how you respond to them that matters.

You only have to look at the cover up of OG269 (which killed 89 people) to see that he's comparing apples to oranges.

Investigate Thailand's Udom Tantiprasongchai

Originally Posted by david44

Thank you for beating me too it, for al it's flaws US has a working press courts and a fair chance that cover ups will be reported.Which reminds me of th epaint job at Swampy to try to hide the THAI logo.

That's SOP for most airlines.

Russian airliner crashes in central Sinai - Egyptian PM

A Russian airliner has crashed in central Sinai with more than 200 people on board, the office of Egypt's prime minister has confirmed.
The Airbus A-321 had just taken off from the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, on its way to the Russian city of St Petersburg.
Egyptian media reports said wreckage of the plane had already been found and at least 20 ambulances sent to the scene.
Most of the passengers are said to be Russian tourists.
Latest updates
The plane was operated by the small Russian airline Kogalymavia, based in western Siberia. Latest reports say it was carrying 217 passengers and seven crew.
Initially there were conflicting reports about the fate of the plane, some suggesting it had disappeared over Cyprus.
But the office of Egyptian Prime Minister Sharif Ismail confirmed in a statement that a "Russian civilian plane... crashed in the central Sinai".
It added that Mr Ismail had formed a crisis committee to deal with the crash.
The Russian aviation authority Rosaviatsiya said in a statement that flight 7K 9268 left Sharm el-Sheikh at 06:51 Moscow time (03:51 GMT) and had been due into St Petersburg's Pulkovo airport at 12:10.
The authority added that the aircraft failed to make scheduled contact with Cyprus air traffic control 23 minutes after take-off and disappeared from the radar.
A centre to help relatives of the passengers has been set up at Pulkovo airport, Tass news agency quoted St Peterburg city officials as saying.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34687139

I'm digging out my tinfoil hat..... someone will be along soon to explain it all....

I hope it wasn't the pilot letting his kids fly the plane again.

I suppose we shouldn't rule out Vlad shooting it down either.

Flight KGL9268 crashed just 23 minutes after take-off. As investigators reach the wreckage Sky News looks at what we know and what may have caused the disaster.

:: What happened?

The A321 Airbus operated by a small Russian airline bound for St Petersburg took off from the holiday resort of Sharm el-Sheikh at 5.58am am (local time) carrying 224 people - mostly tourists.

At 6.20am flight KGL9268 vanished from radar screens while flying at an altitude of 31,000ft over the mountainous area of Arish and gone into a "rapid descent".

:: Who was on board?

Egyptian authorities say the plane was carrying 217 adults, 17 children and seven crew.

:: Is the A321 safe?

According to former head of flight operations at the Civil Aviation Authority Mike Vivian the aircraft has an "excellent safety record".

:: And the airline?

It's a small Russian airline, with only around six jets, that mainly operates internal flights and some holiday flights to Turkey and Egypt.

It is not on the EU blacklist of Russian airlines banned over European airspace and has had only one serious incident - in 2011 there was a problem with an aircraft on the ground which caused an accident killing three people.

:: Was it mechanical failure?

Unlikely, say experts. Mainly because of the the A321's good performance. Airsafe.com give it a mid-table ranking for with just 0.10 incidents per 1 million flights.

However, Egyptian authorities have suggested the pilot did contact air traffic controllers saying that there was a problem on board.

:: What else could have caused it?

Weather conditions could have been a factor, but there were no reports of poor weather in the area. In addition it could have been a pilot error. Again, experts say this is unlikely.

:: Terrorists?

Mr Vivian has said "hostile action" should not be ruled out but Egyptian authorities were quick to rule out suggestions the plane had been shot from the sky.

Russia last month launched military strikes in Syria against IS and other rebel groups fighting the Bashar al-Assad regime.

IS has control over some Sinai territory and other rebel groups in the region have sworn allegiance to the IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

:: What is key for investigators?

Rescue teams are now at the crash site and will be searching for the black boxes to help them gain greater insight into what happened in the short time before the plane began its rapid descent.

Experts say they will be looking for signs to tell them whether the plane broke up in the sky, which would suggest an explosion at altitude.

:: And survivors?

Rescue teams have said they can hear voices of people trapped in the plane wreckage.

Five children have been found dead, other bodies have been found still strapped in their seats.

Egypt Plane Crash: What We Know So Far

Originally Posted by david44

I'm digging out my tinfoil hat..... someone will be along soon to explain it all....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I suppose we shouldn't rule out Vlad shooting it down either.

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by david44

I'm digging out my tinfoil hat..... someone will be along soon to explain it all....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I suppose we shouldn't rule out Vlad shooting it down either.

No-one used to believe Russia could shoot down civilian airliners but they've done it twice.

So it can't be ruled out yet.

I don't think it was a bomb and nor do I think it was a missile...

...I'm going for structural failure due to shoddy maintenance and I reckon the data from the black boxes will be out within a couple of weeks to keep the sanity.

Unknown accidents at cruise altitudes should ground the aircraft type until known IMO.

Originally Posted by Troy

to keep the sanity.

But if the planes home country were to surround Egypt with its troops, affect a government change and place sanctions on the "possible" terrorists and their sponsors, that would be OK with you?

Any idea will Thai based airlines operate after 15th regardless of international inspections, I'm hoping to fly to bangkok around 16-18th I can imagine foreign carriers can do as they please ?

However I'd imagine the insureres will have some input, what's the go anyone know?

Originally Posted by david44

Any idea will Thai based airlines operate after 15th regardless of international inspections, I'm hoping to fly to bangkok around 16-18th I can imagine foreign carriers can do as they please ?

However I'd imagine the insureres will have some input, what's the go anyone know?

Thai Airlines is no longer flying out of the US. Don't know about anywhere else.

China to take on Boeing, Airbus with homegrown C919 passenger jet
Steven Jiang
By Steven Jiang, CNN
Updated 0800 GMT (1600 HKT) November 2, 2015



Beijing (CNN)Amid much fanfare on live national television, China on Monday rolled its first homegrown large passenger jet off the production line in Shanghai, vowing to challenge the dominance of Airbus and Boeing in the global commercial aviation market.

At the ceremony, a shiny C919 -- sporting a largely white fuselage with a blue wavy stripe and a green tail -- was towed beneath a banner with the phrase "a dream takes off" and past a huge Chinese national flag.

The C919 -- a twin-engine, narrow-body aircraft seating up to 174 people -- is similar in size to the Airbus 320 and Boeing 737 series of jets, long the workhorses for airlines around the world.

With a flying range of up to 5,555 kilometers (3,451 miles), it is designed to compete head-to-head with its Airbus and Boeing rivals, and said to easily cover popular business and leisure routes from China such as Shanghai to Singapore and Beijing to Bangkok.

Launched in 2008, the C919 project marks China's return to the business of making large passenger jetliners, after a failed attempt in the 1980s.

China takes on Boeing, Airbus with homegrown passenger jet - CNN.com

I don't want to fly anything made in China.

Originally Posted by MrG

I don't want to fly anything made in China.

I'm not sure there is a commercial airliner made these days that doesn't have some Chinese bits in it.

And this one has bits made in the US and elsewhere; CFG engines and bits by Honeywell.

^
Good point.
We try not to buy made in China products, especially food, dishes, or cooking equipment.
It's almost impossible to find clothes not made there.
Now the fuckers own Volvo. I wonder how long it will take to drive that brand into the dirt.