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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Not because he suffered lasting medical problems from nerve agent contamination.
    Of course not because being shunned socially is far worse than....

    By 1992, when the interview was published, the nerve agent had gutted Zheleznyakov’s central nervous system. Less than a year later he was dead, after battling cirrhosis, toxic hepatitis, nerve damage and epilepsy.
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    A nerve agent that takes five years to kill it's victims. Very useful in a battlefield situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post
    A nerve agent that takes five years to kill it's victims. Very useful in a battlefield situation.
    He was only exposed because of a hood malfunction and received the antidote almost immediately.

    The case of a Russian military scientist accidentally exposed to Novichok appears to show that even surviving the effects of the supertoxic nerve agent is horrific.
    Andrei Zheleznyakov was said to have been injected with an antidote almost immediately, but a friend said he still went from being a jovial, creative man to suffering “chronic weakness, toxic hepatitis, epilepsy, severe depression and an inability to concentrate”, before dying five years later.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8253976.html

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    Andrei Zheleznyakov was said to have been injected with an antidote almost immediately, but a friend said he still went from being a jovial, creative man to suffering “chronic weakness, toxic hepatitis, epilepsy, severe depression and an inability to concentrate”, before dying five years later.
    But nothing to indicate that the nerve agent was the cause of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    But nothing to indicate that the nerve agent was the cause of death.
    "He died in 1993 of a brain seizure".



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    Any proof that the Russians did it yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Any proof that the Russians did it yet?

    Highly likely is the new proof for now..
    Don't expect the proof finding committee to present a result "without any doubt" in the near future, they are all busy searching for Saddams weapon of mass destruction.

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    But you trust the russians eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgoo View Post
    eh?
    ...solid Canadian riposte...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgoo View Post
    But you trust the russians eh?
    They are angels in heaven who can do no wrong as far as Neo and OhDoh are concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Neo and OhDoh
    ...RT uber alles!...

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    ......oops! Red for stepping on a sensitive RT nerve...

    Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

    an argument?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgoo View Post
    But you trust the russians eh?
    No, but that is quite irrelevant in this case.
    Take action when there is proof, shutup when there only are unproven theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Take action when there is proof, shutup when there only is unproven theories.
    ...RT has openings for contributors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...RT has openings for contributors...
    Probably, but that is quite irrelevant in this case.

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    ...^ah, I thought this was an audition thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgoo View Post
    But you trust the russians eh?
    The Russian government you mean? Not particularly, but sadly I trust the UK government even less.
    I'm British, and an expat.

    I have a very good friend who is Russian, one of my work colleagues.
    He's a very honest, generous and hard working man, liked by all.

    He doesn't particularly like the Russian system either, but life today is far better than it was 10 years ago and infinitely better than it was prior to that, despite Western sanctions making life very difficult economically for the Russians.

    From his perspective Russia is not the aggressor, Russia wants closer economic and social ties to Europe, but sees the West and Nato repeatedly hostile toward Russian people and encroaching toward it's borders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Russia wants closer economic and social ties to Europe, but sees the West and Nato repeatedly hostile toward Russian people and encroaching toward it's borders.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    So he didn't invade Crimea then, he was just "wanting closer economic and social ties to Europe".

    You little joker you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgoo View Post
    But you trust the russians eh?
    The impartial OPCW, are looking at the UK supplied "evidence" as we speak. Very similar to the terrorist supplied "evidence" in Syria.

    Which could equally dismissed as "contaminated", by the OPCW team or other interested parties.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    So he didn't invade Crimea then, he was just "wanting closer economic and social ties to Europe".

    You little joker you.

    you really are just totally fucking stupid aren't you...


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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...RT has openings for contributors...
    Any argument?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    From his perspective Russia is not the aggressor, Russia wants closer economic and social ties to Europe, but sees the West and Nato repeatedly hostile toward Russian people and encroaching toward it's borders.
    This is not what 'arry wants to hear...

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    So he didn't invade Crimea then
    No, he didn't. But you already know that. Of course, if you can show me some (photoshopped) pictures of invading armies, battlefield casualties etc I might stoop to take a second look- but until then, the crushing result of the Crimean Parliamentary Referendum is proof enough.

    Meanwhile, ain't newly Coup installed democratic Ukraine doing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The impartial OPCW, are looking at the UK supplied "evidence" as we speak. Very similar to the terrorist supplied "evidence" in Syria.

    Which could equally dismissed as "contaminated", by the OPCW team or other interested parties.

    It wasn't going to be long before the whackjobs started trying to discredit the OPCW was it?


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