Thread: Will Brexit struggles mean May calls an early election?

I was hoping that she would call an election immediately so as to silence any rebels in her own party.

Rebels without a tawse

If the Party line is Brexit its the only time I would vote Tory.

Will Brexit struggles mean May calls an early election?
No.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Will Brexit struggles mean May calls an early election?
No.

She wont, she slid in on a banana peel and might not be so lucky again.

what the other parties are un-electable.

Interesting question as almost all English and Welsh MPs say they will follow Brexit through, how would they campaign??

Originally Posted by Bower

Interesting question as almost all English and Welsh MPs say they will follow Brexit through, how would they campaign??

How they would campaign as individuals is largely irrelevant. The really "interesting" thing is the nature of a Labour manifesto. They could be annihilated as I think that it is impossible for them to produce one which would gain public support while, at the same time, being able to placate their left wing lunatics.

A half hearted approach to Brexit, getting rid of Trident, throwing money at everything, all of these will ensure the party's demise. Not good for democracy but will be ideal for the time. We need strong government which the lunatic Corbyn and his champagne socialists cannot possibly provide.

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by Bower

Interesting question as almost all English and Welsh MPs say they will follow Brexit through, how would they campaign??

How they would campaign as individuals is largely irrelevant. The really "interesting" thing is the nature of a Labour manifesto. They could be annihilated as I think that it is impossible for them to produce one which would gain public support while, at the same time, being able to placate their left wing lunatics.

A half hearted approach to Brexit, getting rid of Trident, throwing money at everything, all of these will ensure the party's demise. Not good for democracy but will be ideal for the time. We need strong government which the lunatic Corbyn and his champagne socialists cannot possibly provide.

But it is most of the installed MPs that are against Corbin, that's my point.

Originally Posted by Bower

But it is most of the installed MPs that are against Corbin, that's my point.

My point is that they would not be allowed to stand as Labour candidates unless they embraced the party's manifesto. This would sort the men out from the boys. Those determined to hold onto their seats would be forced to take Labour party funding or , if they stood as "Independents", have to finance their own campaigns.

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by Bower

But it is most of the installed MPs that are against Corbin, that's my point.

My point is that they would not be allowed to stand as Labour candidates unless they embraced the party's manifesto. This would sort the men out from the boys. Those determined to hold onto their seats would be forced to take Labour party funding or , if they stood as "Independents", have to finance their own campaigns.

You are of course correct, I don't see so many with the courage to be an independent.

The recent electoral reform ensuring a term of government is fixed to a specific day means that only a vote of no confidence can alter it.

Given the precarious position of the Tories, it is quite feasible this could happen if May and the whips stick to a vote in which her backbenchers might choose to ally themselves with the Opposition. A vote ensuring the right to free movement etc to be incorporated into any Brexit agreement might be sufficient but given May herself is a Remainer and knows in her heart immigration curbs on EU nationals are unworkable, she might favour Brexit lite in the short term and let the nutters in her party fight it out at a later date when an election is due.

Personally, I think it preferable there is a putsch and the Brexit cabinet tossers are shot.

The delay until the appeal will paralyse UK politics.
Interestingly delaying the invocation of Article to after Easter will impact the French Presidential polls in 2017 where Le Pen supports Frexit.

The issue will be moot for some time, all of which is bad for sterling and investors who hate uncertainty.Mark Carney seems to be the only sane actor in this farce.

Originally Posted by david44

The delay until the appeal will paralyse UK politics.

Which would not be a bad thing considering the incompetence of the cabinet that May has put together. Doing nothing is better than screwing everything up.

possibly a good time to wait until 2017.

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Originally Posted by david44

The delay until the appeal will paralyse UK politics.
Interestingly delaying the invocation of Article to after Easter will impact the French Presidential polls in 2017 where Le Pen supports Frexit.

The issue will be moot for some time, all of which is bad for sterling and investors who hate uncertainty.Mark Carney seems to be the only sane actor in this farce.

The appeal is a somewhat foregone conclusion in that most government insiders know they will fail - the government lawyers at the hearing were really all over the place and didn't seem to have a coherent argument, a fact which their Lordships were quite quick to point out after one particularly confused government submission when the judges confessed to being none the wiser for it.

The markets shorted the £ after May seemed to be telling the world at the Tory conference she was happy to sacrifice wealth in order to appease the right wing anti migration lobby. Now that it is apparent that Parliament will have its say it is more unlikely the Brexit will be a hard one and common sense might prevail leading to free trade etc.

Also, Carney has said that with the increasing Brexit sourced inflation it is now unlikely interest rates will be decreased again for at least the next two years and it is more likely that rates will in fact increase. This is of course good news for those Brexit morons on huge mortgages which will cripple them even if the rate is modest at, say, 2%.

That is why the £ has strengthened modestly. May should in fact do the decent thing and accept the judicial decision without any more faffing about but she is a dogmatic, obdurate, somewhat pedestrian, woman without much imagination or vision so I should think she will just plod along.

Quite dreary really and the only interesting development is, of course, the Trump presidential election, or not.

I hope he is elected and we can then enjoy the end of an era.

Originally Posted by david44

The delay until the appeal will paralyse UK politics.
Interestingly delaying the invocation of Article to after Easter will impact the French Presidential polls in 2017 where Le Pen supports Frexit.

The issue will be moot for some time, all of which is bad for sterling and investors who hate uncertainty.Mark Carney seems to be the only sane actor in this farce.

The appeal delay was known before the judgment (both sides said they would appeal and a date was set), so nothing to worry about. And I don't think invoking article 51 will be delayed either.

You are right about uncertainty but such is the nature of the beast at the moment.

Carry on and keep making cucumber sandwiches.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Carry on and keep making cucumber sandwiches

Fairy nuff good comment, I have other plans however for my cucumber