Australia Seeks Lifetime Ban on Boat People

[misskit]

Australia's parliament is set to vote next week on a plan that would ban any refugees who arrive in the country by boat from ever obtaining a visa to live there, or even visit, or establish a business.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said the lifetime ban is being enacted to deter smugglers who bring the migrants to Australia. "This is a battle of will between the Australian people, represented by its government, and the criminal gangs of people smugglers," Turnbull said Sunday.

However, while the proposed legislation is supposedly aimed at stopping the smugglers, it is the thousands of refugees from Africa, Asia and the Middle East who will be directly affected.

The new law would impact boat people who were sent by July 19, 2013 to one of Australia's offshore processing camps on the Pacific islands of Nauru or Papua New Guinea's Manus. Canberra already bans them from resettling in Australia even if they are found to be actual refugees. Instead, the government gives the asylum seekers the options of returning home, making a life on one of the processing camp islands or going to a third country.

Children would be exempt from the ban, while the immigration minister would have the ability to make exceptions to the proposed law.

Immigration lawyer David Manne told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation the legislation "does nothing" to address the fundamental question about where the migrants will be taken "so they can rebuild their lives in safety and with dignity."

Mat Tinkler, Save the Children director of policy and public advocacy in Australia said, "The government must act urgently to give hope to these people, not continue to take it away."

Australia Seeks Lifetime Ban on Boat People

[Seekingasylum]

Australian society truly has regressed.
I suppose all the underclass, pikey, lower end English that migrated there in the 1950s has infected it and now they have evolved into their nazi phase.

[AntRobertson]

History repeating itself.

[cyrille]

"This is a battle of will between the Australian people, represented by its government, and the criminal gangs of people smugglers."

Interesting how often the whole issue is oversimplified like this.

[ENT]

Yeh, send 'em back!

[Cold Pizza]

Australia's parliament is set to vote next week on a plan that would ban any refugees who arrive in the country by boat from ever obtaining a visa to live there, or even visit, or establish a business.

Finally, some common sense.

Hope it passes.

[Seekingasylum]

If the Australians wish to withdraw from their obligations under the 1951 Convention then it is their decision but they cannot then complain if we more civilised folk regard them in much the same way one might consider savages from murderous and barbaric, heathen banana republics.

[cyrille]

History repeating itself.

'cept these suckers have no firepower.

[can123]

If the Australians wish to withdraw from their obligations under the 1951 Convention then it is their decision but they cannot then complain if we more civilised folk regard them in much the same way one might consider savages from murderous and barbaric, heathen banana republics.

I am clearly on the side of the Australians. God bless them for their common sense !

[crackerjack101]

Hope they'll let her stay........


WA woman avoids pirates and crocodiles during 23,000km solo paddle from Germany to Australia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

[wasabi]

Amazing how folks who condem Australia for this , never condem other countries who are even less helpful to economic invaders, you maybe living in one.
Is it only white governments that are bad.

[reddog]

Good news,hope it passes,don't want a repeat of the Labor/Green govt losing control of the borders,they didn't give a shit for the country,they knew all the so called refugees
would vote Labor in the future as it is now around the outer suburbs of the main cities.
OZ has always taken a generous amount of registered refugees every year.
These chancers doing it by the back door can piss off,also the govt did not know their true identity because papers were tossed overboard,still a backlog of 30000 for id checks.
People are pissed off with the violent crime gangs that have sprung up in Melbourne and Sydney from migrant-refugee,mainly muslim middle eastern and horn of africa.
Too many seem to think assimilation is a load of crap,so enclaves are formed and there is
zero respect for the police and rorting the social services is the norm.

[Cujo]

If the Australians wish to withdraw from their obligations under the 1951 Convention then it is their decision but they cannot then complain if we more civilised folk regard them in much the same way one might consider savages from murderous and barbaric, heathen banana republics.

I realise this may come as a shock and surprise to you but to be honest I don't think your average Aussie could give a toss what the Poms think.

[Cujo]

Hope they'll let her stay........


WA woman avoids pirates and crocodiles during 23,000km solo paddle from Germany to Australia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Wonder what route she took?

[wasabi]

If the Australians wish to withdraw from their obligations under the 1951 Convention then it is their decision but they cannot then complain if we more civilised folk regard them in much the same way one might consider savages from murderous and barbaric, heathen banana republics.

I realise this may come as a shock and surprise to you but to be honest I don't think your average Aussie could give a toss what the Poms think.

The average Pommie is full of admiration for Australians and the way they defend their country from scum floating up on their pristine shores. "Good on the Aussies, they have the right idea," is what I hear daily in the U.K.

The true nature of the Pommie in today's Britain has become glaring clear, a cowardly nation of hypocrisy that couldn't fight its way out of a paper bag.

The last time this Island felt good was 80 years ago, and that's why it's so important for our Footballers to wear a Poppy on their sleeves when playing a silly game. It boosts our sense of importance, look world, we won the war, we stood alone.

Forgetting that it was the blood sweat and tears of the truly great people of the Commonwealth nations that saved this little pompous blob next to Europe. Oh you won't hear about their sacrifice, "We did it alone"

[Seekingasylum]

Essentially, since the the conclusion of the 1914-18 conflict, the English have always been low class lumpen dross acting as fodder for their betters and could only ever win wars against vastly inferior opponents usually only armed with a stick of celery and a bare cock. Really, the British Army has for the past 80 years been pretty well third rate and incapable of winning any significant conflict by itself - it was the American/Russian intervention that destroyed Hitler and since then the English have been trading off their pitiful fantasies that they are not now redundant in the world in the scheme of things.

Poor old Wasabi. No past anymore, no present and a miserable future. Useless, boring, talentless, ill-informed, uneducated and quite, quite stupid. He really could pass muster as an honorary Antipodean.

Har, har.

I expect he wears his poppy up his arse in bed.

[AntRobertson]

Amazing how folks who condem Australia for this , never condem other countries who are even less helpful to economic invaders, you maybe living in one.
Is it only white governments that are bad.

Yeah, because the best way to manage and run a country is to take a look around the world at the worst examples and then strive to emulate them or make sure you're at least a little bit better.

[ENT]

So this new idea will also keep any wannabe jihadists from running back from Syria or wherever back to Mama when it gets tough and they want some home cooking, like McDonalds and stuff.

[can123]

the English have always been low class lumpen dross

Did someone give you the word "lumpen" as a present ? Please try to vary your vocabulary.

[David48atTD]

So ... before everyone comes out and 'hates' Australia's Immigration policy, let's look at some FACTS.

"New Census data (2012) has revealed that almost a quarter (24.6 per cent) of Australia's population was born overseas and 43.1 per cent of people have at least one overseas-born parent. "

We have a Refugee quota is close to the Worlds average (refugee's per citizen), so we are 'pulling our weight' there.

But, as a Sovereign Nation we have a right to secure our borders.

For those quoting any International Treaty, remember that these 'Refugees' have travelled through several countries, sometimes half way round the world to seek 'Asylum' in a country of Economic choice, Australia.


Back to the OP, this legislation is yet to pass through the Australian Parliament.

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[Seekingasylum]

What the fuck are you talking about? You're all fucking migrants except the poor bloody bongs.

Honestly, you ockers are becoming more American like in your stupidity every day.

[cyrille]

Did someone give you the word "lumpen" as a present ?

I saw it on a '2 for 1' in Asda yesterday along with 'sclerotic', but they were way past their 'sell by' date.

[AntRobertson]

Australia's detention camps on Nauru and Manus are a national shame/disgrace.

[Headworx]

^So what would you propose they did with illegal immigrants, many of whom have ditched their id's at sea for *whatever reasons*. Let them all stay (encouraging a tidal wave of others to follow suit ala Europe), give them a government house, benefits for life, and hope like hell they don't turn out to be dangerous misfits?.

[AntRobertson]

So what would you propose they did with illegal immigrants, many of whom have ditched their id's at sea for *whatever reasons*. Let them all stay (encouraging a tidal wave of others to follow suit ala Europe), give them a government house, benefits for life, and hope like hell they don't turn out to be dangerous misfits?.

Why does it have to be one extreme or the other

My point is simply that the Nauru and Manus centres are a full on fecking disgrace rife with assaults, sexual abuse, and child abuse. There's a reason they're off-shore and hidden.

Whatever the answer is they aren't it.