Thread: British paedophile faces life in jail for prolific child abuse in Malaysia

Originally Posted by cyrille

Just badly written and completely impossiible to believe.

In other words...'The Sun'.

Warhammer isn't a strategy card game either despite what The sun think

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

Yes, it`s a shame he was killed. I get your reasoning, also, as the victims will be in therapy all of their lives it doesn`t seem fair that he is now simply `gone` and will feel nothing, ever again. I think the victims would have felt better about him being locked up, living in fear.

Do you really think that?

I think it is highly unlikely.

When I try to put myself in the mind of an abuse victim I imagine that the knowledge that their tormentor is still alive is a source of substantial emotional pain.

The detailed memory of the awful experience only exists in 2 places.

1. The victim's mind, where it causes extreme pain as a memory.
2. In the mind of the offender. Who, on the other hand, goes on enjoying the fact of the memory in a sexual way whenever they indulge in one of the few pleasures that remains after incarceration: i.e. cracking one off.

Think of how your own mind works in relation to your past sexual exploits. Your conquests are like a library of memories that you can bring forth whenever you feel the urge to crank the man handle.

Paedophiles are just the same except their memories are of events that caused massive trauma to their victims.

As a victim I imagine I would feel a deep sense of happiness just knowing that the only other place where the detailed memory exists has been extinguished by the consciousness of the offender being snuffed out, however it happens, whether violently or humanely.

I think this is one of the ways in which a humane argument in favour of the death penalty can be made. It is in the likely substantial relief that the extinguishing of the violator's consciousness brings to the victim and also to the victim's family.

It is usually argued that this line of thinking is appealing to base instinct of revenge, but I would counter that with 2 points:

1. the relief the victim feels is not based on revenge but simply on happiness in knowing that the memory of their violation is no longer being enjoyed by their violator

2. We are evolved animals and revenge is part of our evolved emotional framework. It maybe does not do so much harm if we sometimes pander to the emotional drives that are the basis of our evolved sense of morality and justice

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

It is a pity he was killed. He had much to offer those researching the pathology of this kind of diseased mind and the aberrant behaviour it manifests.

His death served no purpose and is only welcomed by the usual lower end blue collar oiks, the stupid, the ignorant and the loathsome who themselves are little better in the morality stakes than those they seek to abhor.

Right, gotchya, thanx for your insight.
So some of the 200 kiddie victims who are pleased he's dead are stupid, ignorant and loathsome hey?
Wow, you are just wonderful.
Truly wonderful....

Originally Posted by Looper

It is usually argued that this line of thinking is appealing to base instinct of revenge, but I would counter that with 2 points:

1. the relief the victim feels is not based on revenge but simply on happiness in knowing that the memory of their violation is no longer being enjoyed by their violator

2. We are evolved animals and revenge is part of our evolved emotional framework. It maybe does not do so much harm if we sometimes pander to the emotional drives that are the basis of our evolved sense of morality and justice

Valid points, I have to agree.

I never thought about him cranking off, but when you put it that way, I see your point.

It it sounds like his family would be more content with the closure too.

By the way, I think I met you one night in cowboy with Marmite.