Thread: Egypt Air flight from Paris to Cairo

I smell a rat.

We'd better hope someone finds the CVR before the gypos do....

Fox News has just reported it definitely is ISIS because their security expert spotted that the plane had some sort of Jihad message written on it in moooslim language



مصرالطيران = Misr at-tayran = Egypt Air

Looks like it has been found.

EgyptAir missing plane MS804: Live updates - CNN.com
1 minute agoEgyptAir confirms on Twitter
EgyptAir has confirmed reports debris from Flight 804 has been located and offered its condolences to the families of those presumed dead on board the aircraft.
"EgyptAir mourns the families of the flight 804 victims and expresses its deep regret for this

Originally Posted by aging one

Looks like it has been found.

Inside an aircraft spinning out of control as it drops from 37k feet. Horrid way to go.

^ How do you know?

Egypt's military has spotted a body part, seats and suitcases in the Mediterranean Sea in the area where EgyptAir flight MS804 disappeared from radar, Greece's defence minister has said.

Panos Kammenos told a news conference: "We were informed (by Egyptian authorities) that a body part, two seats and one or more items of luggage just south of where the aircraft signal was lost."

Earlier, Egypt's armed forces spokesman Brigadier General Mohammed Samir said that passengers' belongings were among items found by a navy vessel and aircraft sweeping the area in the hunt for the black box of the Airbus A320.

The debris was believed to include parts of the missing plane and was found 290km (180 miles) from the Egyptian city of Alexandria.

The Brigadier General added that the "part of the wreckage" had been salvaged.

Body Part, Bags, Plane Seats Found - Official

Originally Posted by Norton

Inside an aircraft spinning out of control as it drops from 37k feet. Horrid way to go.

if it depressurised and you had no oxygen I doubt you would be alive to hit the water

^ Unfortunately, Lockerbie incident showed that some survived the fall all the way to the ground.

In the whatdunnit stakes, I'm going for a post kebab incident, exacerbated by over indulgence in brussel sprouts, causing a microburst in the forward lavatory. The subsequent depressurisation was initially coped with rather well by the crew but the sudden movement of passengers running out onto the right wing proved too much.

Investigators are thought to be looking into the possibility that a bomb with a timer was put on the aircraft in Tunis or Eritrean capital Asmara – and set to go off on the later journey from Paris to Cairo.

Phil Giles said: “It may have been put on board at Paris, though security is very tight there already.

“We may see a focus on the airside staff there in the coming days.”


Read more at EgyptAir crash: Experts fear Lockerbie-style terrorist timebomb may have downed aircraft - Daily Record

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Fox News has just reported it definitely is ISIS because their security expert spotted that the plane had some sort of Jihad message written on it in moooslim language



مصرالطيران = Misr at-tayran = Egypt Air

and the pilots were heard speaking in Arabic.

^ It's the same shit every time, why doesn't the media and these so called experts wait until there is some solid evidence to report?

'Smoke detected' inside cabin before crash


There were smoke alerts inside the cabin of the EgyptAir passenger plane before it crashed in the Mediterranean on Thursday, reports say.

Smoke was detected in the toilet and the aircraft's electrics, just minutes before the signal was lost, according to data published on air industry website the Aviation Herald.

However, there has been no official confirmation of the data.

Flight MS804 was en route from Paris to Cairo with 66 people on board.

The Aviation Herald said it had received flight data filed through the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) from three independent channels.

It said the system showed that at 02:26 local time on Thursday (00:26 GMT) smoke was detected in the Airbus A320 toilet.

A minute later - at 00:27 GMT - there was an avionics smoke alert.

The last ACARS message was at 00:29 GMT, the air industry website said, and the contact with the plane was lost four minutes later at 02;33 local time.

ACARS is used to routinely download flight data to the airline operating the aircraft.....

EgyptAir: 'Smoke detected' inside cabin before crash - BBC News

Originally Posted by Hans Mann

There were smoke alerts inside the cabin of the EgyptAir passenger plane before it crashed in the Mediterranean on Thursday, reports say.

Damn smokers.

Not a full flight then. There's still room on the wings.

^ Is that a Chines passenger above the cockpit?

Originally Posted by Hans Mann

'Smoke detected' inside cabin before crash


There were smoke alerts inside the cabin of the EgyptAir passenger plane before it crashed in the Mediterranean on Thursday, reports say.

Smoke was detected in the toilet and the aircraft's electrics, just minutes before the signal was lost, according to data published on air industry website the Aviation Herald.

However, there has been no official confirmation of the data.

Flight MS804 was en route from Paris to Cairo with 66 people on board.

The Aviation Herald said it had received flight data filed through the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) from three independent channels.

It said the system showed that at 02:26 local time on Thursday (00:26 GMT) smoke was detected in the Airbus A320 toilet.

A minute later - at 00:27 GMT - there was an avionics smoke alert.

The last ACARS message was at 00:29 GMT, the air industry website said, and the contact with the plane was lost four minutes later at 02;33 local time.

ACARS is used to routinely download flight data to the airline operating the aircraft.....

EgyptAir: 'Smoke detected' inside cabin before crash - BBC News

Which could mean a fire rather than a bomb.

Oh dear, and Trump has pinned all his hopes on terrorism.

Or a planted incendiary device, as opposed to an explosive device.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Or a planted incendiary device, as opposed to an explosive device.

And you've heard of terrorists planting incendiary devices on planes exactly how many times?

Easier to get past security that is primarily looking for explosives, or be planted in the hold by an airside worker, and a plane brought down by fire is much more confusing for the authorities than one that suddenly explodes.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by taxexile

Or a planted incendiary device, as opposed to an explosive device.

And you've heard of terrorists planting incendiary devices on planes exactly how many times?

The Russian Metrojet Airbus 320 that went down over Sinai earlier this year was reportedly in flames, after a suspected onboard explosion.

Fire is one expected consequence of an explosion.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by taxexile

Or a planted incendiary device, as opposed to an explosive device.

And you've heard of terrorists planting incendiary devices on planes exactly how many times?

The Russian Metrojet Airbus 320 that went down over Sinai earlier this year was reportedly in flames, after a suspected onboard explosion.

Fire is one expected consequence of an explosion.

Yes, bombs quite often *cause* fire, but ACARS reporting smoke all over the plane before it went down indicates perhaps a fire somewhere where they couldn't get to it?

On May 20th 2016 The Aviation Herald received information from three independent channels, that ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) messages with following content were received from the aircraft:

00:26Z 3044 ANTI ICE R WINDOW
00:26Z 561200 R SLIDING WINDOW SENSOR
00:26Z 2600 SMOKE LAVATORY SMOKE
00:27Z 2600 AVIONICS SMOKE
00:28Z 561100 R FIXED WINDOW SENSOR
00:29Z 2200 AUTO FLT FCU 2 FAULT
00:29Z 2700 F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT

Maybe something like SwissAir 111?

Contact was lost four minutes later.

But again, *exactly* how many times have you heard of a terrorist using an incendiary device to bring down an aircraft?

I hope this isn't a battery going up in flames or they're bound to ban all phones from planes.

Of course it could be a cunning plan from Samsung and Apple to boost sales...

Well, there was that American Negro chap who tried to set his foot on fire - leading to millions of travelers every day having to take their shoes on and off..on and off.

Originally Posted by Neverna

^ Is that a Chines passenger above the cockpit?

Damn Chinks are everywhere....

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Well, there was that American Negro chap who tried to set his foot on fire - leading to millions of travelers every day having to take their shoes on and off..on and off.

Well firstly he was British and secondly his shoe was packed with explosives.

Officials at the time indicated that Reid's shoes contained 10 ounces (283 g) of explosive material characteristic of C-4—enough to blow a hole in the fuselage and cause the plane to crash.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid

^Sorry. Thought he was a Yank. But the Brits are more than welcome to him.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^Sorry. Thought he was a Yank. But the Brits are more than welcome to him.

You've got him locked up in a SuperMax.

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