Thread: Snowden on his way to Venezuela?

Originally Posted by Warrior

To protect me "from evil people who want to kill me"? Whats the chance that evil people kill me? One in a million? There might be a higher risk to die from suicide - I suggest governments spend much more on psychiatric treatment to save some lifes. __________________

I don't think like you, but it does not negate your opinions. do you think in a real sense that a revolution would solve/resolve the global issues that face humanity? hardly, but it sounds good as it flows across would be anarchists lips.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by sabang

Bullshit- count me as a dissident, even though I'm not worth killing. Gentlemen, I am serious. Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.

Well, then, you must agree with the following...

You still have a 100% record on misattributed quotes, Booner. Tom Paine did not say that. Odd that you didn't know that, can it be you've never actually read his works?

Originally Posted by sabang

A State that goes insane on such people, is a rotten state.

indeed, it has no credibility and show how desperate it has become

Originally Posted by sabang

"Loyalty" is the thing now. Loyalty and secrecy on behalf of lies and rottenness.

Loyalty is the authoritarian last resort against reality and the truth,

This administration, like the previous GW Bush administration, is living in a parallel world, and Obama has no excuse for it, not even 911

Actually chappy,

Thomas Paine, 1737 - 1809.

"The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government."




Edward Abbey, 1927 - 1989.

"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."

Originally Posted by Humbert

The US is Ecuador's largest market for it's exports. No matter how many dopey songs you come up with.

Y'all think Ecuador is hoping China will ride in one a white horse? Get real you dreamer.

The point is, the good ole days for the U.S. are over. Being the big bully is not working in S. America or the rest of the world anymore.
-Chevron has lost most business in Ecuador. Ecuador is building soon a $ 12.5 bn oil refinery with Chinese financing. Gold and copper is already in chinese hand.
-American antidrug flights from an Ecuadorean military bases have been stopped
-In 2011 the American ambassador got booted out of the country
-Assange is sitting in Ecuadors embassy

Snowden is going to change what ? Yep, keep dreaming, nothing at all.

I hope you like this song better then the last one.


You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you just might find
You get what you seed

P.S.
Obama is doing a Tour de Africa on a donkey right now. Picking up the little pieces of what the Chinese have left behind. After they have rode in on a white horse

^^Yeah, well.... ol' Tom Paine didn't actually blog or have his own website, so in order to establish that Paine said or wrote that, you really will have to come up with a cite from something, you know, actually written some time ago.

^^I have one for you. "The King of Wishful Thinking". You eurotrash types like to delude yourself that the US is in decline but take a look at your own miserable economic mess.

Originally Posted by Humbert

^^I have one for you. "The King of Wishful Thinking". You eurotrash types like to delude yourself that the US is in decline but take a look at your own miserable economic mess.

It is in decline...I think you are in denial.

Originally Posted by Humbert

^^I have one for you. "The King of Wishful Thinking". You eurotrash types like to delude yourself that the US is in decline but take a look at your own miserable economic mess.

This has come about because there is no American hind teet to suckle.....as there aren't any teets left. They've disappeared - so has the American illusion.

All the West is looking East for their troubled ways.

Historical cycles tend to repeat.

Originally Posted by Humbert

^^I have one for you. "The King of Wishful Thinking". You eurotrash types like to delude yourself that the US is in decline but take a look at your own miserable economic mess.

Thanks to Americas natural resources, the U.S. is slowly getting back on track. Imagine Europe/Germany having all those resources. Better yet, imagine the U.S. having no natural resources, like lets say Germany. Would the U.S. be just another third world country ?

Speaking of ecomic mess in the U.S., I hope you like my next song.

I've been waiting for years to buy a brand new cadillac
But now that I've got one I want to send it right back
I can't afford the gas to fill my luxury limousine

Originally Posted by Humbert

^^I have one for you. "The King of Wishful Thinking". You eurotrash types like to delude yourself that the US is in decline but take a look at your own miserable economic mess.

I always wonder how 'someone is worse off than me' can make one feel better.

Originally Posted by ltnt

Originally Posted by Warrior

To protect me "from evil people who want to kill me"? Whats the chance that evil people kill me? One in a million? There might be a higher risk to die from suicide - I suggest governments spend much more on psychiatric treatment to save some lifes. __________________

I don't think like you, but it does not negate your opinions. do you think in a real sense that a revolution would solve/resolve the global issues that face humanity? hardly, but it sounds good as it flows across would be anarchists lips.

Revolution - I am not sure if it will solve the global issues we face. I am very honnest about that - I am not sure it will solve them.
I am personnally not looking forward to a revolution - it causes pain and loss, and I dont like pain and loss.

But... the way we are dragging things now is not helping to solve some of the more urgent issues: e.g., growing population, scarcity of drinking water and farm land. Possible scarcity of oil, causing higher prices for fertilizers and stuff. Just to name a few.

That will cause famine, poverty, which then will cause civil unrest.

To alter our course, I believe we do not have time to wait for things to evolve - no evolution, hence: revolution.

^"There will be no Revolution." Arab Spring has assured everyone that it does not work.

Originally Posted by ltnt

^"There will be no Revolution." Arab Spring has assured everyone that it does not work.

Revolution in an islamic country is like pharting in a pig stall.

Note that he didn't rule out Drone Strikes:

Obama: I’m not “scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker.”

He's not referred to as the Drone Ranger for nothing...

Originally Posted by Humbert

You eurotrash types like to delude yourself that the US is in decline but take a look at your own miserable economic mess.

The decline is mutual. Germany looks in the best shape, to me.

^Take a look at their GNP numbers and then take a look at the USA's. No comparison. I equate decline in dollars and cents not politics, wishful thinking or media whores opinions.

If your looking for history, culture and good food, go to Europe.

Originally Posted by ltnt

If your looking for history, culture and good food, go to Europe.

Yes, yes. I believe the Nazis were of a similar mind. All that blood and soil is good for the digestion and for cultivating mushrooms.

Originally Posted by mao say dung

Yes, yes. I believe the Nazis were of a similar mind.

Sad that bit of history, but we learn from our mistakes. Don't we? As an old work acquaintance used to quote, "It all depends on who's ox is being gored." My co-workers single accomplishment in his lifetime was his single handed design for the "in seat ash tray," for 727's.

Have you ever considered that trade Mao?

Originally Posted by ltnt

I equate decline in dollars and cents not politics

ah ha - but the dollar is an unsustainable currency. When the Feb blows up, which it has to, the dollar is toilet paper; well actually, it is easier to create a dollar than it is toilet paper.

The Russian and Chinese are not scared of the US. I am still waiting for the announcement that China will back the Yuan with gold, and any thoughts of the USD being a global currency will be gone. Reckon the Germans are planning something similar with the Euro as well if they can get their gold back from the Fed (which has sold it and is manipulating the gold price down to buy enough back to avoid a big problem). I read somewhere that China only needed to buy another 3000 tonnes and they could back the Yuan with gold.

Was laughing watching a program the other day about a couple of bloke who printed a few million bucks on HP printers - the SS went nuts getting them in jail, yet ignore all the banks doing exactly the same every minute 55555555

Buckle up kids - rollercoaster time.

Originally Posted by ltnt

^"There will be no Revolution." Arab Spring has assured everyone that it does not work.

Maybe.

But what will happen instead?

Originally Posted by Warrior

But what will happen instead?

Have a look at Egypt.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I am still waiting for the announcement that China will back the Yuan with gold

Gold is at or under $1,200 an oz as we speak. High was over $1,900 a few months back, remember? About the Time the BOT decided they wanted or needed to diversify their bloated baht with the purchase of $350,000,000 dollars worth of gold at well over $1800/oz.

The bubble has burst on China and the pipe dream of the Yuan becoming a currency leader. Same for the EURO its just waiting for the dime to drop. Unsupportable due to its surplus of have nothing countries who take, but do not contribute. I can hear the cows turds hitting the floor now!

Originally Posted by ltnt

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I am still waiting for the announcement that China will back the Yuan with gold

Gold is at or under $1,200 an oz as we speak. High was over $1,900 a few months back, remember? About the Time the BOT decided they wanted or needed to diversify their bloated baht with the purchase of $350,000,000 dollars worth of gold at well over $1800/oz.

The bubble has burst on China and the pipe dream of the Yuan becoming a currency leader. Same for the EURO its just waiting for the dime to drop. Unsupportable due to its surplus of have nothing countries who take, but do not contribute. I can hear the cows turds hitting the floor now!

To drop against what? Two years ago, many punters said the euro would drop against the us dollar. That didnt really happen, basically because the dollar is weak too. Euro and dollar both dropped against the baht.

These type of predictions are just highly speculative - and have often been proven wrong.