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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Tigger View Post
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    ^^Agree totally that we (USA) should stay the fuck out of other folks business. They spawned these miserable fucks...who the fuck gave us the right to go sort out their shit? No question that they are evil fucks who deserve what they eventually get - but let's let their countrymen handle it and just stick to Wallmart shopping and stuffing our faces - things at which we excel.

    Sidebar: Re Marcos, in my 15 years here, I can't count the number of times Filipinos - from all walks of life - have lamented the absence of Marcos or someone like him. According to the vast majority, their lives were better under Marcos. Dictatorship? You bet. But, things worked (after a fashion) and the street crime which runs rampant today didn't exist. Some countries should NOT be democracies. The Philippines needs a strong ruler to tell them what, when, and how to do EVERYTHING. The post-Marcos gang (with the possible exception of Ramos) has robbed the country blind, while totally ignoring the systemic problems that keep the Philippines at the bottom of the SEA dung heap.
    Davis I was there in the Philippines during Marcos's reign,it was probably the safest time ever for foreigners.Corruption instigated from Spanish days continues to this day and will stay that way of that I have no doubt. You would understand this living there as long now as you have.
    Marcos it was realised later was more experienced in how to get aid from the USA than the majority of the Politicians in the States. When you read all the accounts of Marcos and his efforts to try and instigate change in their political system, you can see how frustrated he became with the corrupt system that no one who benefited wanted changed.

    He played the NPA threat to the hilt to the Western world and reaped billions in doing so. With the average filipino living in near poverty and being uneducated a democratic Dictator is the only way progress could be made.
    Unfortunately even the initially well intended Supremo loses the plot and greed and power for himself over shadows his good intentions at the start.
    I was there when Ramos was elected,it was better then in my opinion as he was strong and for his people.He was elected in, as they all are by voters being paid for their cross on the voting slip.
    Filipinos are so gullible though that nothing will change in our life time or of our kids time on this planet.

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    I saw some of the footage on TV. He looked like a bewildered old man, who really did not comprehend what was being done to him. Reminded me of the pictures of saddam when he was taken.

    Ghaddafi caused untold hardship, death and suffering to many in Libya around the world when he was in a position to do great things for his people and country. Its hard to dispute that he reaped what he sowed, but its also hard to take any satisfaction in the mob death of a bewildered old man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Tigger
    I was there when Ramos was elected,it was better then in my opinion as he was strong and for his people.He was elected in, as they all are by voters being paid for their cross on the voting slip.
    I liked one comment he made when he decided not to run for a second term. He said I want to travel while I am still able to carry my own suitcase.

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    all leaders are afraid of the crowd,

    put Blair or GW Bush in an angry crowd, and they will make Qaddafi looks courageous and strong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
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    They've got gold, diamond, asbestos, nickel, coal, selenium, lithium, chromium, copper, platinum, and uranium... and others.
    sure, but they don't have oil executive criminals working with the WH and the Pentagon
    Criminals compared to who? You want fascists in China, Iran, etc.. to have it?
    If you hate the oil, don't use it... or anything in the civilised world that is there because of it. The mining industry isn't too tiny to slot into your conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    all leaders are afraid of the crowd,

    put Blair or GW Bush in an angry crowd, and they will make Qaddafi looks courageous and strong
    Remember when the First Wookie told the press her old man was afraid to go down to the gas station for fear of getting whacked? Anyhow, hope all are happy now Gaddaffi is gone - look what they have wrought:


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    ^ mission accomplished,

    another proof that Obama is actually Osama evil brother, doing a better job that Osama could

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    ^ mission accomplished,

    another proof that Obama is actually Osama evil brother, doing a better job that he could
    And recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize at that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    ^ mission accomplished,

    another proof that Obama is actually Osama evil brother, doing a better job that he could
    And recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize at that!
    the work of the devil, no doubt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    all leaders are afraid of the crowd,

    put Blair or GW Bush in an angry crowd, and they will make Qaddafi looks courageous and strong
    Remember when the First Wookie told the press her old man was afraid to go down to the gas station for fear of getting whacked? Anyhow, hope all are happy now Gaddaffi is gone - look what they have wrought:

    I wonder how many airliners the new guys will blow up over Scotland....

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