No doubt there's lots of kerfuffle ongoing in the Issues forum, but that's what the people who post there enjoy, the opinionated petty-minded muppet-heads. I have no time for political discussion - Human beings are idiots and deserve the politicians that they get - That's it - All else is bluster. Still, there are plenty of other forums here on TD where us normal folk can chat about food, or travel, or grouting, or the weight of a blue whale's tongue and never once will you hear a voice skewed with the bitterness or bile that is oh so common elsewhere in this soiled world.