Is ajarn.com a venus fly trap?

**Smeg** · 09-11-2006, 08:35 PM

Before I begin, as it is apparant that Lily is a mod on 20dayajarnforum with her tongue unpleasantly far up LDMA and kenkannif's arse, her replies, which will no doubt flow, can be predicted.

Reading Bangkok Phil's recent comments about his trip back to the UK, it is apparant that he longs to live back there, and yet by spending the best years of his life working as a TEFLer in Thailand, any chance of ever earning enough there to be comfortable as a middle aged man has long passed.

Then there is 20dayajarn.com. This was run as a hobby and a source of information and support for teachers, but Phil saw good reason to exploit its popular position. It thus became run for his benefit alone, via the advertisers. I'm not saying that some of the information written isn't valuable, but the way it is slanted, i.e. to purely promote TEFL and TEFL schools, stinks.

If Phil was a decent and honest person, he would want to warn people about the pitfalls of throwing one's life into being a TEFLer in Thailand. But that would be shooting himself in the foot, financially wise.

He is not only in a position where he chose to spend the best years of his life in a country mainly because he was able to earn more than those around him (unlike in the UK, where he obviously struggled to earn even an average living) and thus have (extremely poor) people wait on him -what a fucking colonialist!, but he saw fit to ensure it was financed mainly by Western money, by using the site to suck people in to the sponsors, not actually caring if they ended up trapped like him.

All that mattered was that as he had thrown away his chance to live in the UK ever again, he was going to make himself as comforable in Thailand as possible, by whatever means necessary.

**dirtydog** · 09-11-2006, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

All that mattered was that as he had thrown away his chance to live in the UK ever again,

He's a bloody Northerner, why the hell would he want to go back and live amongst those scum

**Butterfly** · 09-11-2006, 08:39 PM

Thailand is a career deadend, that's no secret.

But the beer and the pussy is good, so what else would an honnest man want in life ?

**mad_dog** · 09-11-2006, 08:40 PM

Start a notajarn.com site if you feel that strongly Smeg. Galt can be your mentor.

**Skulldigger** · 09-11-2006, 08:40 PM

Fuck I'm tired of these threads.

Is Cool Thailand the most pathetic Thai related forum ever created?

**stroller** · 09-11-2006, 08:41 PM

Yet another rant by some frustrated council estate trash, this is really boring...

**Smeg** · 09-11-2006, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by stroller

Yet another rant by some frustrated council estate trash, this is really boring...

You have to laugh at fuckwits like this who read and respond over and over and over again to everything I write with braindead off-topic insults.

Originally Posted by Mad Dog

Start an notajarn.com site if you feel that strongly Smeg. Galt can be your mentor.

There would be nothing illegal in doing that (if avoiding banana pics), but I prefer to discuss than destroy.

**Ken May** · 09-11-2006, 08:47 PM

Smeg,

You can mock Lily and Phil all you want, but at the end of the day their posts are much more significant and entertaining than yours.

**Butterfly** · 09-11-2006, 08:48 PM

100 posts min

**Smeg** · 09-11-2006, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ken May

Smeg,

You can mock Lily and Phil all you want, but at the end of the day their posts are much more significant and entertaining than yours.

Glad to have your individual opinion on board. However, IMO, Phil, despite a flowery (which actually looks tired and forced) writing skill, seems blinkered and screwed up, and Lily (Jellybean) is anything but entertaining.

diaw · 09-11-2006, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ken May

Smeg,

You can mock Lily and Phil all you want, but at the end of the day their posts are much more significant and entertaining than yours.

Are you sure about that? Smeg has rather a reputation for speaking his mind.

For that, I respect him - although not always agreeing with all his views. In this case however, he has taken an interesting position. He may be a lot closer to the truth than many would want to believe.

**Smeg** · 09-11-2006, 08:59 PM

^

Cheers. I detect unpleasant money-making undertones in everything Phil writes, which kills it for me.

diaw · 09-11-2006, 09:07 PM

The colour of money seems to sway many a man's morals.

An honest-broker service which was both good for the Thai consumer & western potential TEFLer would be a very fair service - to both sides. I know some attempts were made at trying to get teachers to form some kind of collective voice, but this never materialised.

At the moment the imminent result is going to be a brutal backlash from the new clean-broom Thai powers-that-be against much of the under-the-table policies followed by previous TEFL service-providers. They must be getting sick & tired of the level of so-called teaching professionals working in the industry. It smacks of scam upon scam all the way & it will blow up pretty soon, no matter how much TEFLers try to brush it under the carpet.

**Smeg** · 09-11-2006, 09:12 PM

The edges of a Venus Flytrap leaf are equipped with teeth-like protrusions called Cilia, while the inside has red pigmentation that attracts insects.

Far be it from me to refer to TEFLers as insects

Link to Phil's UK visit Notes from a small island - Ajarn Forum - Living, Teaching, and Surviving in Thailand.

**NickA** · 09-11-2006, 09:16 PM

I don't read ajarn much these days, i prefer porn sites and masturbating

diaw · 09-11-2006, 09:21 PM

**NickA** · 09-11-2006, 09:28 PM

^I'm quite serious as well, as long as I can get a proxy that allows me to look at naked SE Asian women getting rogered in every orifice then I'm as happy as Larry

**dirtydog** · 09-11-2006, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

then I'm as happy as Larry

Is Larry CMN?

**Smeg** · 09-11-2006, 09:31 PM

BTW, the troll on the link to Phil's thread known as snobs wasn't me, honest!

**NickA** · 09-11-2006, 09:31 PM

^No, I think he's Roger, but I think he may be so small he's got lost up one of the larger orifices

**mad_dog** · 09-11-2006, 09:41 PM

There isn't much love to be found at ajarn.

**DJ Pat** · 09-11-2006, 09:45 PM

^^There are happy chaps over there if you are mentally stable I think.

I don't understand the hatred some of you have, it's just a bunch of people talking to computers.

**Smeg** · 09-11-2006, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by mad_dog

There isn't much love to be found at ajarn.

Coz I'm banned

It was kind of naughty of me to pee on the founder's promotional thread Baan Rim Nam, Koh Chang. - Ajarn Forum - Living, Teaching, and Surviving in Thailand. as snobs, especially as he didnt' even start it.

I always thought Ian was great, and very fair, selfless, and open minded.

diaw · 09-11-2006, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

^^There are happy chaps over there if you are mentally stable I think.

I don't understand the hatred some of you have, it's just a bunch of people talking to computers.

You're right... it's about 2% stable : 98% unstable...

**DJ Pat** · 09-11-2006, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

Originally Posted by mad_dog

There isn't much love to be found at ajarn.

Coz I'm banned

Shame that is, we could have a field day.

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