Thread: The Disintegration of the Reds

It all started with their acceptance of the roadmap by the reds, and then their refusal because some minor roadblock wouldn't satisfy their leaders.

The truth is they couldn't come to terms of having lost 30 of their men over little progress from the government offer before anyone was killed. Instead of cutting their loss, as anyone would do logically, the reds got greedy and unreasonable. Pride was dictating their movement, not cause or a political solution.

Now it seems that they are losing the battle in the streets (duh !!!) and want to negotiate. You don't negotiate with terrorists as it's not clear exactly if the red "terrorists" in the streets are directly under the supervision of the red leaders. If they are, then this is a simple case of "terrorism", if they aren't and it's a movement gone wild, then it's "vandalism" and "hooliganism". Regardless shooting them down seem to be the only solution as the police probably spent the budget for their anti-riot gears on beers and mia nois.

End result: 60 killed

What other solution do the reds have ? not much, their exit strategy is quite limited. They will need a complete surrender as they can't win this and more will be killed if their pride keep dictating the terms of their cause.

As for popular support, they have no support from anyone, after all they did, it's clear they were prepared and looking for violent confrontation. We all saw what they did, it was over the top and not warranted by any events. They lost it, and with that they lost everything. Now they are disintegrating politically, alienating the moderates and their "crowd". I hope the government will go after everyone of them for causing the deaths of so many. Those leaders need to be in jail for a long time for what they did.

This movement is a disgrace, and anyone associated directly and indirectly with them should be ashamed, or better yet, leave Thailand.

The red leadership wants to provoke a Tiannamen type of crackdown. Galvanizing world opinion is the best tactic they have left. Sad for the innocents caught up and used as pawns in their game.
Looks like the endgame is underway.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Pride was dictating their movement

or a handbag shopper in Paris ?

there must be quite a few organisations now feeling that their tactic of aligning themselves with a reincarnated warrior who shops for handbags was a very bad move.

Originally Posted by baldrick

or a handbag shopper in Paris ?

was he shopping again in Paris ?

sure at the Louis Wonton shop

it must be quite cool as a billionaire to stage your own mini revolution,

this is the ultimate luxury shopping, buying a whole country

Silly buggers got sucked in by a corrupt muppet who managed to by them off for piss all.

If it was not the northerners he bough off but instead sunk some baht into the south we would now see the southerners fighting in the streets and saying how brilliant Taksin is whilst the northerners would be at home getting on the drink and eating bugs for a laugh.

In reality this aint got that much to do with democracy but more to do with Taksins ability to buy there loyalty for a very small amount of money.

HiS end game was to use them to possibly down the government with a view to returning to Thailand.

Its a tragedy that the northerners did not posses the intelligence to see this.

I feel sorry for them in a way.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

This movement is a disgrace, and anyone associated directly and indirectly with them should be ashamed, or better yet, leave Thailand.

But....erm....they're Thai.

Why should they leave Thailand?

^guess abhisit will go back to england?

Originally Posted by britmaveric

^guess abhisit will go back to england?

I fail to see your point , brit -

They will disintegrate. Disintegrate over all of the country. The hardliners will do the worst talking, to the detriment of us all.

Well done Thailand. This is a corrupt and evil system, so I guess this has to happen.

In respect to the allegation that Mr. Thaksin was shopping at Louis Vuitton in Paris, aside from the Bangkok paper that made the allegation, is there a reliable source that confirms the story. According to the same newspaper, Mr. Thaksin was supposedly on his deathbed due to terminal cancer. What story is it now? Did Mr. Thaksin rise from the deathbed to go shopping? If so, it is a miracle and a miracle can only mean one thing: Salvation will soon be upon us. With salvation will come retribution as those that doubted Thaksin are sent to purgatory. I believe purgatory for many of the angry Pattaya residents obsessed with Thaksin is Phnom Penh. They might wish to start packing theircarpet bags now and remember to include some toilet paper.

The UDD leadership has not disintegrated. Movements of this kind always have people ready to move up. For everyone's sake, hopefully the current leaders will remain in the picture as some of the younger redshirts lack their restraint and judgement. If those leaders in the wings takeover, there will be bloodshed.

let's see how long that movement will last without funding,

as sabang said, they might go underground and that's fine, they can join the ranks of Red Siam for the next 20 years, and do fuck all, which I suspect will happen eventually

Originally Posted by zygote1

In respect to the allegation that Mr. Thaksin was shopping at Louis Vuitton in Paris, aside from the Bangkok paper that made the allegation, is there a reliable source that confirms the story.

Google the question. I did, and I believe the "allegation".

Originally Posted by sabang

This is a corrupt and evil system, so I guess this has to happen.

yes, and the reds were part of the problem, not the solution. Their rejection of the roadmap was the smoking gun of their true faith, that is they are being paid to demonstrate for the benefit of a certain individual. After all he was paying the bills.

I dont think they are getting paid no more and I guess most want to go home

Another futile Daffy-style discussion.

I thought Butterfly had been jailed for persistent repetition of inanities.

Answer to all his points is....."Time will tell".

Originally Posted by zygote1

In respect to the allegation that Mr. Thaksin was shopping at Louis Vuitton in Paris, aside from the Bangkok paper that made the allegation, is there a reliable source that confirms the story.

Tweet photo here....Marie Claire team spotted REAL Thaksin Shinawatra at Louis Vuitton Champ Elysee on Sat May 15th OMG !!!! | TweetPhoto

Thaksin is the square-headed dude with the very unfashionable white coat on by the way!

Originally Posted by Humbert

The red leadership wants to provoke a Tiannamen type of crackdown.

absolutely!

Originally Posted by baldrick

this country will not change until real grass roots local movements topple the entrenched local gangsters that call themselves political representatives , and give the local constituents a competent and credible person to send to the capital to represent their interests

amen,

well, it seems a few are having the hots for me in the news, some mods or some silly posters reporting everyone one of my posts, the silly cowards

anyway, I will make my valuable comments here instead

Originally Posted by BKKBoet

tulsathit
RT [at]veen_NT: Jatuporn, Natthwut, Kwanchai, Nisit, and Wiphuthalang have turned themselves in. Weng, Suporn not seen and Arisman on the run.

Even in surrender they could find no unity, what a bunch.

pathetic, isn't it ?

doing a runner just before the fall after saying for weeks they will be there until the very end.

They even got in trouble with their audience when they started to come back onto their words, probably realizing that they were a bunch of cowards and lied to all along.

This is fucking hilarious, I tell you, too bad that 60 or more had to be killed over those silly coward fuckers.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Please listen, nattawud pleads. Please listen. Please listen 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

We are ending our rally here so that we can continue our struggle for democracy, nattawud says. I appeal to you, (explosions) 1 minute ago via TweetDeck

Leaders on stage are very uneasy looking around.Nattawud abruptly ends his announcement.Comes back and says for crowd to go to Nat'l stadium
less than 10 seconds ago via TweetDeck

Terry Fredrickson (terryfrd) on Twitter

nice swan song, so much for "Democracy above all", they sounds like your typical two face Thai coward

yap like a dog, and then do a runner when facing a real threat