Thread: Walking Street discussion censored/deleted?

Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr

Maybe one of the mods could copy and paste some text from the deleted op sitting in the trash can

Don't need to. It did contain references to anal.

Not that talking about anal sex is a problem; it's more that TD isn't a sadfuckswhocantgetlaidinfarangland guide (except for DD's threads).

I note with dismay Nok that you still haven't had the courage to address the possibility that you are HIV positive and through your selfish thoughtless actions are responsible for the transmission of HIV .

what say you ?

^^Bugger!

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Mid

TD and TV are chalk and cheese .

Discussion of moderation is NOT allowed! Do not make me repeat myself. If this continues some posters here will find themselves taking a very long holiday. Thread closed!

Steven
//Admin

Is this the same Bob who says he is not a mod?

seems old noks logged off without addressing my question ,

wonder why ?

Originally Posted by dirtydog

So DrB0b is steven, we shall be taking away his mod buttons in the near future due to this revelation, can't have openly homosexual black jews as mods.
Lets have a quick look in the trash bin for some little snippets.

BabyDolls still 1000baht short time, no condom, finish inside, arse okay

Beach Road still 500baht short time, no condom, finish inside,

all the ladies are also HIV positive

Udon Thani brothels

Cambodian brothels

A fine post that one of the more delicate mods decided wasn't suitable, if you feel your post was deleted by mistake please feel free to email DrB0bHatesYou[at]hotmail.com

FARK!

I was so offended by all that stuff above I almost had palpitations. I had no idea that sort of stuff went on in Thailand.

Originally Posted by Mid

seems old noks logged off without addressing my question ,

wonder why ?

Not defending Noks point of view on the world in LOS, but sometimes people have more important things to do at particular times. So you you shouldn't count it as a win there.

I have known Nok on another board a few years back and he is like a pitbull when he gets his teeth into a debate. Certainly not the kind to be run off with one difficult question.

Like I said, Nok and I have disagreed on many subjects elsewhere, but one thing I could never call him is a coward in the debating department.

All the same, Nok is a veteran whore monger and self confessed bareback rider and I dont really think this is his kind of board.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

all the ladies are also HIV positive

Thanks but one context problem...In the OP I said all the "bars" will tell you all the ladies on Beach Road are HIV positive.

Total nonsense of course to believe they, pimps in "bars", will protect you from HIV being the point! But I will admit it is clever marketing!

Cheers and have a nice week. Nok

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Yes, bareback and finish inside are great codewords, certain to confuse and perplex anyone unfamiliar with sexual exploits.

Well done. Sheer genius.

From NokWorld..assumptions and facts and opinions......just stumbled on them elsewhere and for your "enjoyment" or ridicule?

Jets are winning at halftime!

Gidday. Nok


1. Every lady and guy she has been with is HIV positive. We then evaluate and consdier the risks of an encounter with her and either take them or don't.

2. No bar owner is a man/woman of the "cloth" when they "employ" ladies of the night with the intent of having them go with complete strangers for the purpose of having sexual relations.

3. Slavery has been abolished. Any attempt to use slavery tactics to intimidate people when they are not indentured or even in the case of the guy/customer not even orally indebted or obligated to another, will be met with force, even violence if required.

4. Lady Drinks are not only a complete scam, but ruin women. It creates an attitude that her time alone has value, her conversation, and she won't ever again be willing to actually work for a living.

5. You are responsible for your own activities, blame rest with you, as do successes and rewards.

6. Barangs/Farangs have no business being involved in the pimping aspects of prostitution in SEA. They only screw it up with their clever twists and marketing nonsense.

7. What ladies do on their own time, is their business. What some bar thinks/does about it is intruding into another persons private life.

8. Health checks are for the purpose of heath care, not to market ladies as if they are meat for sale. It remains a Doctor/Patient realationship, not a Doctor/Bar/Brothel/Patient scheme to demean her and market the bar/brothel.

9. A days work deserves a days pay when there is no compounding aspect to the work such as developing software. When casual labor, the worker deserves his/her wage. Excuses not to pay them are sick and disgusting.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr

Maybe one of the mods could copy and paste some text from the deleted op sitting in the trash can

Don't need to. It did contain references to anal.

Not that talking about anal sex is a problem; it's more that TD isn't a sadfuckswhocantgetlaidinfarangland guide (except for DD's threads).

Worth quoting.

Originally Posted by NokTang

My health is a private matter between me and my Doctor.

Umm, it's not . . .especially when you're going to potentially infect someone with a disease that you undoubtedly carry.


Geez, your post was deleted . . . shit happens, speaking of anal.

I've cracked NokTang's secret code.

Originally Posted by NokTang

I stand by every post I've made for over 15 years on these forums starting with the very first one and have recieved death and bodily harm threats all along so that is proof positive they thoughts belong to me. Otherwise, why do the bar owners want me dead and not the various forum owners of the "property"? Nok

"KhunSanuk" kicked you off nanaplaza/Thai360 is it?

Thought that was where you normally posted your garbage.

And while we are at it...you do realise the type "E" strain found here is FAR more easily contracted via normal sexual activities than the type "B" found in the west...

You knew that right?

A quoted portion from here...

HIV and AIDS in Thailand

Any fuckwit indulging in barebaking whores should read this...over and over...

Here's the meat of the page...the final paragraph being most relevant to your situation.

About 80% of HIV transmission in Thailand is heterosexual, as compared to about 10% in the USA and some other western countries. So why is the heterosexual transmission rate by unprotected sex is much higher in Thailand than in western countries? One answer is because of a different subtype of HIV virus in Thailand. To understand this, read this section.

AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) is caused by the HIV-1 virus (Human Immunodeficiency Virus). However:

There are many sub-types of HIV virus, HIV subtype A, subtype B, and on thru subtype F, plus a subtype O, much like hepatitus has hep-A, hep-B, etc., and this may make HIV in Thailand significantly different from HIV in the west.

In general, it is common for a particular kind of virus (common flu viruses and others) to have different strains, some of which are much more easily transmitted than others.

In Thailand, the primary means of transmission of HIV is by heterosexual sex, overwhelmingly HIV subtype E. A second group is intravenous drug users (IDU's), most of whom are infected with HIV subtype B, the subtype most common in western homosexuals and IDU's, and which is apparently difficult to transmit heterosexually.

In the west, the prevalent HIV subtype B has as its primary means of transmission: anal sex (due to the abrasions of an unlubricated and tight tract which give the virus access to the blood), intravenous drug use (needle sharing between drug users), blood transfusions, hemophilia (people who need blood transfusions and who got donated blood with HIV before the hospitals could detect HIV), and with heterosexual transmission accounting for only about 10% of all cases. Subtype E is found in only a tiny minority of cases in the west, and is often traceable to travellers from Thailand.

For more than 20 years, Thailand has had HIV subtypes B and E. However, it is subtype E which has taken off in the heterosexual population. This has suggested that there are significantly different degrees of contagiousness between the two subtypes as regards heterosexual transmission.

It might be a common deadly mistake by western men to have unprotected sex with prostitutes in Thailand based on a lack of education and understanding of the difference between HIV subtype B in the west and HIV subtype E in southeast Asia.

Southeast Asia predominantly has subtype E, whereas other regions of the world have different predominant subtypes (the USA has subtype B, Africa has A, C and D, and so on). Thailand has a mix of two subtypes, subtype B and subtype E. Subtype B is mainly found in northern Thailand among intravenous drug users. Subtype E is what is predominantly found among prostitutes and heterosexuals. For example, a Chulalongkorn University clinic in Bangkok which had large numbers of HIV enrolled patients for studies found that 92% of male heterosexuals were infected with HIV subtype E, whereas 79% of intravenous drug users (IDU's) were infected with subtype B. (In both cases, practically all the rest were infected with the other subtype of HIV.)

HIV infection is highest in northern Thailand near the Golden Triangle, due to the opium and intravenous drug use in that area. Northern Thailand is also where the highest concentration of HIV subtype B can be found.

Subtype E actually appears to be a "recombinant" mutation, where a cell somewhere in the world was infected by two different strains of HIV at the same time, like "virus sex", resulting in genes "combined" from both. Subtype E is thought to be a combination of subtype A found in western Africa combined with another subtype, perhaps with subtype B which is dominant in North America, Europe, Australia, and Japan. (Subtype A is commonly found in other recombinant forms, too.)

Prostitution is rampant in many countries in Asia and the world, yet the percentage of the population in Thailand that are HIV carriers (approximately 2%) appears much higher than in other places with prostitution, after adjusting for per capita infection rates.

A research report at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia, has an analysis that concludes: "it has been estimated that the heterosexual HIV transmission rate in Thailand (where subtype E predominates) is fifty-fold higher than that observed in USA and Europe (where subtype B predominates)."

One of the best medical web research sites (geared for physicians) has an in-depth research report conducted in Thailand, which reports: "One of the earliest studies suggesting differences in efficiency of transmission among HIV-1 subtypes was a cross-sectional seroprevalence study of HIV-1, presumed subtype E, in Thai military conscripts infected by commercial sex workers (CSWs).[52] Using mathematical modeling, researchers estimated that the probability of female-to-male HIV-1 transmission per sexual contact was approximately 1 in 30 to 50 contacts; previous estimates for HIV-1 subtype B were estimated at 1 in 500 to 1000 contacts. A second Thai study compared serodiscordance in couples in which the index case was either infected with subtype E from CSW contact or subtype B from intravenous drug use (IVDU). After controlling for factors known to affect transmissibility (eg, STDs, advanced disease), subtype E was associated with a much higher rate of seroconcordance, suggesting a difference in the intrinsic properties of the subtypes, with enhanced heterosexual transmission in HIV-1 subtype E.[53] One recently published report suggested that this apparent enhanced heterosexual transmission of subtype E may be due to increased replication in Langerhans' cells, which are located in the vaginal mucosa and may be the cell types that first become infected during heterosexual transmission of HIV-1.[54] The data from these studies, and the predominance of HIV-1 subtype B in the Americas and Europe where homosexuality/bisexuality is the major risk behavior, have led some investigators to conclude that subtype B is less efficiently transmitted heterosexually than the other subtypes, particularly subtype E." Reference: http://www.medscape.com/SCP/IIM/1997...0.brodine.html

This noktang has been a poster on Pattaya Lovers for many years so he knows where to get answers. Coming on here is a windup.

Originally Posted by NokTang

Originally Posted by Mid

I note with dismay Nok that you still haven't had the courage to address the possibility that you are HIV positive and through your selfish thoughtless actions are responsible for the transmission of HIV .

what say you ?

I say what I've always said. My health is a private matter between me and my Doctor. Much like again I've said a thousand times, a bar "workers" health is between her and her Doctor, not her and one(or more) of your beloved men/women of the "cloth" fucking "bar" managers or mamasans pimps in disguise. Health is a private confidential matter.

To repeat, you can go ahead and think others like "bars" will protect you but at the end of it all as you pull out of whatever, you alone are responsible for your conduct and taking precautions, risks, etc..

If you care so much, as do I, make the assumptions everyone in the world is HIV positive and full of other nasty STD's. Since I make these assumptions, the question if I'm positive or not doesn't apply to the discussion. I hope I'm not and have no reason to think I am, but also hope you worry more about yourself than you obviously do about others. Give it some consideration. Thanks.

Cheers Panda. Like you said, some of us have other lives and activities and duties and obligations to do and accomplish. Time only permits a few moments on the internet each day. How we spend the rest of day and night is perhaps too complex to explain here. Happy New Year as well mate. I may be in AC soon where of course everyone bags the little fella... Nok

nice try BUT you still fail to acknowledge the definite possibility that you are HIV positive and unknowingly spreading the virus .

it is absolute bullshit to claim your health is a private confidential matter when you are unaware of your own status and there are other parties intimately involved .

in developed countries you can be incarcerated for having sex without informing your partner when you are positive .

your hiding behind your refusal to be tested when you are definitely in a high risk category .

Originally Posted by Mid

nice try BUT you still fail to acknowledge the definite possibility that you are HIV positive and unknowingly spreading the virus .

I acknowledge that. It is also true of everyone else.

it is absolute bullshit to claim your health is a private confidential matter when you are unaware of your own status and there are other parties intimately involved .

The context was a "bars" involvement, however, what my Doctor is or isn't aware of and what I am/aren't is in fact confidential. The fact I or anyone may have intimate relationships is also none of your business nor the general public's.

in developed countries you can be incarcerated for having sex without informing your partner when you are positive .

I think thats true in the USA as well, but I'm not sure. As you must have read, I consider everyone positive so informing me is moot. I'm taking the risks without blaming others and suggest you do too.

your hiding behind your refusal to be tested when you are definitely in a high risk category .

Not hiding, I've been tested, just not a regular thing I do. As I've admitted I know I'm involved in high risk activities. Your point is again moot. Cheers. Nok

I acknowledge that. It is also true of everyone else.

nope , only those living a high risk life style and refusing to get tested .

like it or not reality is your hiding behind your ignorance.

Not hiding, I've been tested,

by your own admission , not regularly so yes hiding

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Any fuckwit indulging in barebaking whores should read this...over and over...

You just labeled at least half of the farangs and apx 80percent of the Thai males fuckwits. Are you proud of yourself or what?

Dealing with reality of the situation is much better than citing medical journals mate. Many and I would estimate most, don't use condoms. Any other claims are silly. That of course doesn't make it "right" or mean I'm promoting it. Just the way it is.

I wonder why you and a few others have no concern for the drunken driving which goes on here and puts others at risk, kills people and causes serious injuries. Lets ask you the big question and please answer honestly..

Who puts more people, innocent people, at risk? A guy who gets drunk, then drives home in this crowded city...or a guy who picks up a lady and has unprotected sex with her? Thanks.

Kind regards. Nok