Thread: Anybody ever see Pee (Ghosts) in Thailand?

I agree with you Jet seems I have always had strange experiences with ghosts and physic things. When I was a kid could do what would be called impossible card tricks. I could guess what the card was without seeing it. My cousins made me do this for a couple of hours once in awhile never missed one. Strange cant do it anymore? Tried to show my mom but she got kinda freaked out after about 10 trys.

Also smelled a ghost once as did my Parents. Winter in Massachusetts inside the house playing a board game. Really strong smell of Roses or Flowers came outta nowhere. We all smelled it at the same time. Lasted for about 10 seconds and then gone! Still cant really explain that one.

Most people refuse to believe a lot of my tales but I know my own experiences and some of these were witnessed by others at the same time.

^ I believe ya. Pity you lost your gift, but that often happens after you're bottled and fermented into a good little citizen.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Nope. Physics is disproving that.

No it isn't.

Originally Posted by tjyflhol

But I always have to disagree with the 'if we haven't proved it yet, then it can't exist' line. In my opinion there has been far too many sightings of ghosts from too many people over too long a period to ignore the possibility they exist entirely.

Well, billions of people believe in God, and that's a crock of shit too.

Originally Posted by tsicar

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

We tend to seek linear models when examining such phenomena. Perhaps discarding a scientific observation would be more beneficial.....

speak to thais about "pee" and the ones they have "seen" all seem to have a similar appearance.
kinda same as flying saucers.
ever heard of a rectangular, or perhaps sausage shaped one?
all this shit onlty exists in the minds of people and thais

....examine the possibility that different people are atuned differently. Sensitivities and connections might be comparable to situations - they're all different. Absolutes and standards are not a viable source, since there are no such beast.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Perhaps discarding a scientific observation would be more beneficial....

religion has been traveling this path for thousands of years already

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Nope. Physics is disproving that.

No it isn't.

Think you're wrong there, Marmers.

I can (almost) understand that Thais will believe in ghosts because, just like religion, its been drilled into them since they were of impressionable age.

For all the rest of you idiots, you should know better.

Never seen any but I am surely going to be one soon enough.

Originally Posted by TizMe

I can (almost) understand that Thais will believe in ghosts because, just like religion, its been drilled into them since they were of impressionable age.

For all the rest of you idiots, you should know better.

hear, hear -- of course, you'd be just as likely to convince the gullible and easily impressed that Feng Shuy, Reiki, and all that other crap are just figments of their overactive imagination.

Ain't gonna happen -- look up 'cognitive dissonance' for a better explanation as to 'why' people believe.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by TizMe

I can (almost) understand that Thais will believe in ghosts because, just like religion, its been drilled into them since they were of impressionable age.

For all the rest of you idiots, you should know better.

hear, hear -- of course, you'd be just as likely to convince the gullible and easily impressed that Feng Shuy, Reiki, and all that other crap are just figments of their overactive imagination.

Ain't gonna happen -- look up 'cognitive dissonance' for a better explanation as to 'why' people believe.

Oh sure, it's well known that Westerners are immune from predisposed indoctrination and conditioning.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Oh sure, it's well known that Westerners are immune from predisposed indoctrination and conditioning.

Never said that -- but then again, you are the master of digging out Arty McStrawman to distract from the actual argument, aren't you?

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

People have claimed to see ghosts for thousands of years, yet despite all the hype (and a lot of effort), nobody has yet been able to provide proof of their existence.

Plenty of video and audio evidence.

Thing is, the scientific method requires that any Truth be reproducible and that's difficult outside a lab setting. So every bit of hard evidence that comes down the line is treated as a one-off and not scientifically valid.

Best we can hope for is that we develop some sort of technology that can detect persons occupying these planes or dimensions in a reliable manner. It would be eventful, to say the least.

Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

People have claimed to see ghosts for thousands of years, yet despite all the hype (and a lot of effort), nobody has yet been able to provide proof of their existence.

Plenty of video and audio evidence.

All faked and easily reproduced.

Not one paranormal gift has been scientifically proven to this date:

Scientists put psychic's paranormal claims to the test | Science | guardian.co.uk

It's education really. There are so many Thai ghost stories which can be easily dismissed with very humble scientific knowledge. I can't disprove the concept of ghosts, but those who believe in them see them just about anywhere, and I, as a rational, observing person have never seem them. So I must assume they apply the same "scientific vigour", or lack thereof rather, to all their sightings as to the thousands which have already been dismissed. You can't disprove every single ghost story, but it would be nice if for once in all the world just one paranormal activity, gift, etc. could be proven ? Tons of things we know nothing about yet, our knowledge will improve and further reduce the playing field of religion, esoteric people and ghosts.

^ You'll never get it.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ You'll never get it.

Oh no... we *do* get it -- therein lies your problem...

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

People have claimed to see ghosts for thousands of years, yet despite all the hype (and a lot of effort), nobody has yet been able to provide proof of their existence.

Plenty of video and audio evidence.

All faked and easily reproduced.

I'm not sure how you can say that WS. Lots of photos of 'ghosts', many that have been looked at by photographic experts and even they couldn't say they was faked. So how do you know they were?

Ghosts, fairies, god. I can't disprove them, but since they only seem to appear to the ones believing in them I can safely say I don't think they exist. And as others have pointed out, we have very little control or knowledge over our own senses. I have witnessed many strange things in extreme situations, and they were very real to my senses (I could see, hear, smell it) but it still wasn't any more a reality to others. Your eye can photoshop better than any artist.
I have seen ghosts, I have been outside of my body (3rd person view) and some other things, but that might have been due to my 40% blood loss, morphium and mental conditions.
I believe most sensible people when they tell me they've witnessed paranormal things. (I tend not to believe Thais when they speak about seeing ghosts as they are just too gullible and a few questions gets them all defensive, as they try very hard to reinforce in each other those believes without having much of an experience themselves...) You've seen it with your own eyes, no doubt about that, but the point is that an independant observer completely unattached to the general situation would not have seen it.
"God shows himself only to the believer."
aka
"A believer can project his mental image of God to his environment."

^To the people that see them, they are real. I have never seen ghosts, but I do believe a cousin of mine who says they have a ghost living in their house. The children see it more, because young minds are not filled with garbage that adults, and the outside world places in them. They are more open to seeing ghosts, and having deja vu.

daffyduck

hear, hear -- of course, you'd be just as likely to convince the gullible and easily impressed that Feng Shuy, Reiki, and all that other crap are just figments of their overactive imagination.

No, feng Shui has been around for centuries starting in China. Reiki, as in projecting energy fields is not crap to the people that practice them.

Any photo I show can be easily disregarded though can't it, and yes they can be easily faked. How to show a proof with a photo?

I'm just saying that unlike what you said, not all 'ghost' photos have been proved as fakes. That's your belief, but it's not fact.

I would like to see a convincing ghost picture though, do you mind to post one ?