Thread: Worth a read...different points of view and that!

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

So what? As things stand today, most of Asia is backward and the people are only fit for use as cheap labour (which is more than the Africans are good for).

Have you ever got that right, Just look what has taken place and happened to Africa since the natives ran the honkeys back to Belgium or what ever part of Europe they came from and took over the governance and production of the lands of Africa starting about 40 years ago.
They have turned a very fertile and rich country into the worst shit hole on the face of this planet.
They lay and starve to death on land that could feed the world if they got off their ass and let someone come in and make a dollar and they would share in the wealth and not have to starve, but would have to do a days work for a days pay, which the Negro race is unable to do by themselves no matter what country they are in, they can work but without the will to do so and must be forced either thru hunger or fear and even if driven thru hunger they still need to be led in the correct direction or they are like their chimpanzee brethren, they just raise hell and steal or lay and starve.
At least under the slavery option they were taken care of. Housed, fed, and had their medical problems attended to and for which they traded labor, so what is different today is they do nothing but receive the same benefits thru world charity org, The UN, or states and country govts do it for them but they do nothing in return except steal, deal drugs and gang murders and breed the next generation starting at age 15 or less.
Now this is not so with all, but the majority, but to say all would be like saying All Muslims are terrorists, which is not so, but the great majority of terrorists are Muslims.

It was the Arabs that preserved what we know as western culture

^ shock horror!!!!
for some

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

It was the Arabs that preserved what we know as western culture

Preserved, yes, but it didn't originate there.

Originally Posted by blackgang

look what has taken place and happened to Africa since the natives ran the honkeys back to Belgium or what ever part of Europe they came from and took over the governance and production of the lands of Africa starting about 40 years ago. They have turned a very fertile and rich country into the worst shit hole on the face of this planet. They lay and starve to death on land that could feed the world if they got off their ass and let someone come in and make a dollar and they would share in the wealth and not have to starve, but would have to do a days work for a days pay, which the Negro race is unable to do by themselves no matter what country they are in, they can work but without the will to do so and must be forced either thru hunger or fear and even if driven thru hunger they still need to be led in the correct direction or they are like their chimpanzee brethren, they just raise hell and steal or lay and starve. At least under the slavery option they were taken care of. Housed, fed, and had their medical problems attended to and for which they traded labor, so what is different today is they do nothing but receive the same benefits thru world charity org, The UN, or states and country govts do it for them but they do nothing in return except steal, deal drugs and gang murders and breed the next generation starting at age 15 or less. Now this is not so with all, but the majority, but to say all would be like saying All Muslims are terrorists, which is not so, but the great majority of terrorists are Muslims.

Most of Africa was enslaved and pillaged by europeans. We took their natural resources and gave them christianity, steam trains and cutlery. No wonder they are in such a confused state about where they stand with the former colonists. The west delivered an imperfect form of white dominant democracy, and you wonder why they bite back?
It is not an issue of colour, but one of human decency. If people are trated with respect and as equals, they will respond in kind. If they are enslaved and subjugated they will eventually seek freedom by any means possible. We reap what we sow.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by blackgang

look what has taken place and happened to Africa since the natives ran the honkeys back to Belgium or what ever part of Europe they came from and took over the governance and production of the lands of Africa starting about 40 years ago. They have turned a very fertile and rich country into the worst shit hole on the face of this planet. They lay and starve to death on land that could feed the world if they got off their ass and let someone come in and make a dollar and they would share in the wealth and not have to starve, but would have to do a days work for a days pay, which the Negro race is unable to do by themselves no matter what country they are in, they can work but without the will to do so and must be forced either thru hunger or fear and even if driven thru hunger they still need to be led in the correct direction or they are like their chimpanzee brethren, they just raise hell and steal or lay and starve. At least under the slavery option they were taken care of. Housed, fed, and had their medical problems attended to and for which they traded labor, so what is different today is they do nothing but receive the same benefits thru world charity org, The UN, or states and country govts do it for them but they do nothing in return except steal, deal drugs and gang murders and breed the next generation starting at age 15 or less. Now this is not so with all, but the majority, but to say all would be like saying All Muslims are terrorists, which is not so, but the great majority of terrorists are Muslims.

Most of Africa was enslaved and pillaged by europeans. We took their natural resources and gave them christianity, steam trains and cutlery. No wonder they are in such a confused state about where they stand with the former colonists. The west delivered an imperfect form of white dominant democracy, and you wonder why they bite back?
It is not an issue of colour, but one of human decency. If people are trated with respect and as equals, they will respond in kind. If they are enslaved and subjugated they will eventually seek freedom by any means possible. We reap what we sow.

Most of Africa was "enslaved'..by who? By African Tribes!
The Africans sold Africans to the west, but they don't like us to talk about that, that's "racism".

If they weren't sold by their captors, they would have been slaughtered, but they don't like to talk about that too!

Thet like to play the guilt trip, how many thousand years will it take to get some people to be responsible for their actions and STOP BLAMING THE FUCKING WHITE MAN..shit, look at the benefits they get in the US and other countries, at the EXPENSE of the national, and they still moan fucking RACISM, fuck wake up get off your ass and work like everyone else had to do!

It makes me sick, they expect handouts for everything..."Poor Ole Granpappy was a slave", Fuck half of them when they were released from slaverey, bought themselves SLAVES for fucks sake!



We took their natural resources?
And what did they do with them? They didn't even know they had "natural resources"
They are very good at pointing out exploitation "after the fact!"
Then we get the same old "racism" shit.

Face up to it, they were too fucking stupid to discover what they had under their own two feet, but when Whitey came and "paid them to do a job" and take out the minerals etc. they didn't like it!

Boy, who moved the goalposts...did they prefer to leave it buried for a conservation issue?

Look at what they can do!

Name one country that a fucking African can run?

Zimbabwe - formerely Rhodesia, formerley the BREAD BASKET of Africa...now, 32 years of negro rule, it's fucked, cannot even support it's own people!

So, all of the liberals and the people that think race is not an issue, please, please post JUST ONE AFRICAN success story, only one, even a moderate one will do, even show one piece of evidence as to how they have POSITIVELY, contributed to ANY one country, GDP, whatever, please, I am dying to see it!

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

It was the Arabs that preserved what we know as western culture

Preserved, yes, but it didn't originate there.

The Roman.Greco models are from 'original'.

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Face up to it, they were too fucking stupid to discover what they had under their own two feet, but when Whitey came and "paid them to do a job" and take out the minerals etc. they didn't like it!

Fook me sideways Miggins, you at a hard on about this or what?
Think carfully about what you said:-

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Whitey came and "paid them to do a job" and take out the minerals etc. they didn't like it!

Imagine a technically superior nation arrived in your country and enslaved, or paid slave wages, to get you, and your family and friends to dig up all the mineral wealth so you could make obscene profits back home, and put nothing back into the dirt poor third world country you had just exploited? Them when they have finished taking everything, they leave you with a non indiginous white led government that says you are not fit to use the same buses and schools as us white folk even though this is your country and not ours.
Is it any surprise that these people and their descendants have a few social issues in contemporary society?
I'm no bleeding heart liberal, but you cannot blame black africa for it's present state of upheaval. Europeans, Americans and Arabs have consistently used the potential wealth of Africa for it's own purposes, and rarely has this been for philanthropic reasons.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Face up to it, they were too fucking stupid to discover what they had under their own two feet, but when Whitey came and "paid them to do a job" and take out the minerals etc. they didn't like it!

Fook me sideways Miggins, you at a hard on about this or what?
Think carfully about what you said:-

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

Whitey came and "paid them to do a job" and take out the minerals etc. they didn't like it!

Imagine a technically superior nation arrived in your country and enslaved, or paid slave wages, to get you, and your family and friends to dig up all the mineral wealth so you could make obscene profits back home, and put nothing back into the dirt poor third world country you had just exploited? Them when they have finished taking everything, they leave you with a non indiginous white led government that says you are not fit to use the same buses and schools as us white folk even though this is your country and not ours.

You seem to miss the point, all our African friends seem to tell us that MAN originated from Africa, so, wouldn't it be logical to assume (given natural selection) and them being the source of life, that they were the most intelligent?

So, from what you are saying, these Africans spawned modern man, and through countless generations, the Whiey migrated North, only to return to Africa and EXPLOIT them, because we were MODERN? What the fuck!

Did they go to sleep for 2 million years? Where's the logic?

If man as we know today really came from Africa, why aren't the Negroes exploiting us (Sorry they are to some respect, through Social and Welfare) But it seems a bit strange they have never overun Europe or anywhwere else for that matter, or made a better place for THEMSELVES, please, prove me wrong, I'd love to see one example!

Only excuses, and apologies.

If some fucker came on my land and tried to exploit me, I know damn sure what they would get, and no, I don't go around hacking to death my neighbours, unlike some tribes!

Why do you all feel the need to make excuses for stupidity, let's face it, they are not up to it, end of story, it's not a racist thing, it's a fact of life!
Is it any surprise that these people and their descendants have a few social issues in contemporary society?
I'm no bleeding heart liberal, but you cannot blame black africa for it's present state of upheaval. Europeans, Americans and Arabs have consistently used the potential wealth of Africa for it's own purposes, and rarely has this been for philanthropic reasons.

Apologies, I seem to have half posted and half quoted again!

At the end of the day, why are we not the slaves? If you really belive that the origination of man began in Africa, seems like someone went to sleep for a few millenia.

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

At the end of the day, why are we not the slaves? If you really belive that the origination of man began in Africa, seems like someone went to sleep for a few millenia

The most reliable explanation i can find is in the following link:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-big-question-how-old-is-humanity-and-where-did-homo-sapiens-come-from-457807.html

It does not explain how the population of Africa did not develop as quicly in terms of technology, explortion and the colonisation of other continents.
History and the environment seem the logical conclusion. It took thousands of years for homo sapiens to travel around the world and make their homes in very different environmnets to the one they came from. They would have been forced to develop responses to constantly changing circumstances and living conditions. Those that remained behind, clearly did not feel the need or inclination to follow, and remained trapped in a territory so hostile, it took the earliest explorers literally, a lifetime to find them. The sub saharan african ancestors of ours developed in accordance with local needs in a difficult environment. To remain there, it must also have had enough food and other natural resources to sustain them. They would have lived simply and evolved slowly, without the need to assume new methods of coping with a life that changed so little.
Don't forget that at this time, most of the planet was covered by climax woodland, or inhospitable dessert and arctic regions where few could survive. I am assuming that life would develop more quickly in the less severe temperate regions where man could do more with the resources available. The original homo sapiens who remained in sub saharan africa would have had to cope with impenetrable jungle rain forests and vast mountain ranges. A much less friendly environment in which to develop.
Much of this is conjecture on my part, but is a theory based on facts and not modern social distrust of a person because of their origins.
Sorry for the long winded answer. migs, but you did ask!

^ Any 'explanation' will do, as long as it doesn't mention the difference in races, eh. All of Africa is/was not jungle and desert. Fertile grassland, abundant water, wildlife and resources. Maybe it's time to publicly ask why only the hated white man seems to innovate and have the drive to explore, while the rest seem to want to cling to their aged cultures and forefathers. Sit around, do fuckall and blame everybody else for their woes. Wait for the white man to think and come up with ideas, then copy. Is it laziness, or is it stupidity? You see the same thing in Asia, maybe excluding the Japanese.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Could you sum it up in say less than a 1,000 words.

or less than 100?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

complete non-sense !!! almost spoken like a true muslim fanatics. Using a western product hardly make you a westerner, or think like a westerner, or become fully westernized. Only if it was that simple !!! by your logic, having a monkey use human products, would make him act and think like a human ? ridiculous,

I agree with the Frog.

Same as it doesnt make me Amerikan every time i drink a starbucks coffee, which is absolute shite anyway.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Sorry FF, if it wasn't for Asia, European cultures would have never developed. Contributions and influence regarding every aspect of your existences are Asian-based.

Foul!

Cannot can him FF, the real FF is Frankie!

Originally Posted by FlyFree

^ Any 'explanation' will do, as long as it doesn't mention the difference in races, eh. All of Africa is/was not jungle and desert. Fertile grassland, abundant water, wildlife and resources. Maybe it's time to publicly ask why only the hated white man seems to innovate and have the drive to explore, while the rest seem to want to cling to their aged cultures and forefathers. Sit around, do fuckall and blame everybody else for their woes. Wait for the white man to think and come up with ideas, then copy. Is it laziness, or is it stupidity? You see the same thing in Asia, maybe excluding the Japanese.

The only way to get fertile grassland is to cut down all the trees. From the stone age onwards man had to start by clearing the land in order to grow crops and provide grazing for livestock. The only places where there were no trees was the desert, the frozen poles and the tundra in between which could only support limited vegetation.

^ Boy, you do have the ass by the tail. Ever hear of a treeline? So Africa used to be only jungle and desert. Makes one wonder, for instance, how lets say lions, cheetas etc. evolved.

They came out of the water and evolved just like us.

I thought they escaped from zoos......