Thread: Muslims demand non Muslims fast. IN ENGLAND!

If you remember the parable of the prodigal son!
he worked as a swine herder!

I was married to a muslim until a few years back, she and her family both ate the bacon that we bought from the Armenian shops in Istanbul.

they liked it, they were very moderate muslims, like most in western turkey.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

I was a little economical with the truth when I said Birmingham was officially a white minority city.

Tuddish for: 'Actually I posted utter bollocks, as is my want, was caught for it, and completely lacking the ability to admit I was wrong tried to shift the posts and otherwise be completly disengenious. When it became apparent that even that wouldn't work I made myself scarce and after much soul-searching finally had to face the fact that there was no way out of this one other than making a slight concession and some bollocks about a "little economical" - even though its abundantly clear to everyone else what an utter arse I am'.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Originally Posted by bkkmadness

He's been sent in by ET to distract us from the ridiculous BNP post last night.

I don't send anyone anywhere.

Quite able to fight my own battles here. There was nothing ridiculous about the BNP post other than it was from a BNP press release. Quite how that is 'ridiculous' I'm not sure. Unbalanced or biased would be a better description.

I was a little economical with the truth when I said Birmingham was officially a white minority city. We've established that.

There's really no need to get so worked up over it.

You're a lying fcuk who hasn't got the spine to admit that he's wrong. Edinburgh is ashamed of you.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

I was a little economical with the truth when I said Birmingham was officially a white minority city.

Tuddish for: 'Actually I posted utter bollocks, as is my want, was caught for it, and completely lacking the ability to admit I was wrong tried to shift the posts and otherwise be completly disengenious. When it became apparent that even that wouldn't work I made myself scarce and after much soul-searching finally had to face the fact that there was no way out of this one other than making a slight concession and some bollocks about a "little economical" - even though its abundantly clear to everyone else what an utter arse I am'.

But you were owned by obsidian, right?

He ran you off the forum but now you pretend that he is not 'pai nai ma', right?

you were owned though Tony

Your new pal 'pai nai ma' (obsidian) made a complete [at][at][at][at] out of you.

Noodles, caught in a down stroke, lamely seeks a distraction.


Again.

Originally Posted by pai nai ma

Noodles, caught in a down stroke, lamely seeks a distraction.

Funny hearing that from you...

Originally Posted by English Noodles

But you were owned by obsidian, right?

Very true and he still is owned by the skilled master of guises.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Your new pal 'pai nai ma' (obsidian) made a complete [at][at][at][at] out of you.

If you are a [at][at][at][at] to begin with that's his fault, nobody can make you a [at][at][at][at].

Originally Posted by Dalton

I really don't give a shit, nobody in any insane cult is going to tell me what to do or not....They can all go and fukc themself...

the crusades ended too erly sheep shaggers they all are

^ I'm so happy that you joined this forum.....Finally one who spells worse than me..

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

I understand in fairness, and that the UK has been reasonably fair to the minority religions. However my question is this. Would an Islamic country allow an used, or unused (Mosque) for another religious group. Also, understanding their history, shouldn't they priorotise their main religion whether it is Catholocism, Christianity or any other.

So, we should be as closed-off as Saudi Arabia? Would that make you feel better? Should we then also adopt their laws . . . seeing as you wish for all things to be equal.
We would then need to apply laws unto people mirroring the laws of their origin . . . nice move!

I kind of feel good about our governments not limiting people too much that think differently.

No we shouldn't. However there should be give and take on both sides, but the muslim community is taking all the time.

I will point out that i am constantly defending the muslim and islamic community over the western policies, but i still maintain my point about this.

My GF's father is Thai/Muslim.

What exactly do you want, JJ? What give and take are you talking about? I opened the door for a Muslim woman at work today, should I expect a male Saudi to do the same for a western woman in Damascus (Syria) turn?

My state government at home has just vetoed the building of a mosque on the outskirts of some suburb, which is majority Muslim-inhabited. So, in case someone wants to build a church in Cairo, I expect this to be vetoed.

A Muslim was beaten up by some thugs in Paris last week - should I now expect to be beaten up . . . it should be reciprocative according to you.

Life doesn't work this way, JJ. Actions and deeds are not always connected nor should they be.

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

muslim community

globally, nationally, locally???

please define the term as it isnt clear what you mean.

Here's an article that may make some of you feel better:

Catholics welcome, Muslims not

Sunanda Creagh, Urban Affairs Reporter
September 9, 2008
IT IS the tale of two schools. The Camden residents' group that fought a Muslim society's proposal for a school in rural Camden has welcomed a Catholic organisation's plans to build a school nearby because "Catholics are part of our community".

The president of the Camden/Macarthur Residents' Group, Emil Sremchevich, said the Catholic school plan "ticked all the right boxes", even though he is yet to see its development application.

"Catholics are part of our community so we should be supporting it on this basis alone. We have to welcome them," Mr Sremchevich told the Herald. "To become part of a community, you need to live in the community. You can't just turn up."

The Quranic Society said Mr Sremchevich's comments were racist but he rejected that tag. "Why is that racist? Why is it discriminatory? It's very simple: people like some things but don't like other things. Some of us like blondes, some of us like brunettes. Some of us like Fords, some of us like Holdens. Why is it xenophobic just because I want to make a choice? If I want to like some people and not like other people, that's the nature of the beast." Mr Sremchevich was among those who applauded a Camden Council decision in May to reject the Quranic Society's application to build a 1200-student school at Burragorang Road, Cawdor. The council said it was refused "on planning grounds" but one resident, Kate McCulloch, said Muslims would not fit into the Camden community.

"The ones that come here oppress our society, they take our welfare and they don't want to accept our way of life," she said then, when she had hoped to follow Pauline Hanson into politics.

The Catholic Education Office of Wolllongong is in negotiations to buy a plot of land adjacent to the 150-student Mater Dei special-needs school in Macquarie Grove Road. Mater Dei will remain but the Catholic Education Office of Wollongong wants to build a 1000-student high school on the adjacent plot.

It is less complicated than the Quranic Society application, which would have required rezoning. The Mater Dei site is already zoned for a school.

A spokesman for the Quranic Society, Issam Obeid, said: "Everyone can see there is a double standard … No one knows anything about the Catholic school and they say, 'Yeah, give it a tick already.' I think racism is affecting this."

A spokesman for Wollongong's Catholic Education Office, Peter McPherson, said more schools were needed in south-west Sydney to cope with population growth. "Our site is currently a school zoning so we don't believe we will have any problems with rural zoning issues," he said.

Mr Obeid stressed that he did not object to the Catholic plans. But he said the society's school would have taken non-Muslims. "The council said they rejected us because of traffic and zoning, but I think if we didn't have the backlash from the community then it could have ended very differently. We want to integrate into the community but they won't let us."

Before the vote, protesters placed pigs' heads on stakes and draped an Australian flag between them on the proposed school site.

Camden's Mayor, Chris Patterson, said religion had nothing to do with the the council's decision in May. "And this DA will be treated exactly the same. The council will take into account traffic, amenity, noise."

A Quranic Society appeal will be heard in the Land and Environment Court later this month.

Good job too. Like it or not Islam doesn't exactly foster a 'be good neighbours' policy.
They are divisive, either you're with us or against us and Muslim schools are breeding grounds for terrorists and extremists.

Originally Posted by cujo

either you're with us or against us

Pretty much what Dubbya said right before he started bringing Freedom & Democracy(TM) and 'our way of life' to the poor oppressed Afghanis and Iraquis by dropping lots of bombs on them. Bombs are pretty divisive. Destructive too.

Originally Posted by cujo

and Muslim schools are breeding grounds for terrorists and extremists.

speechless.

what a pile of arse.

Pretty much what Dubbya said right before he started bringing Freedom & Democracy(TM) and 'our way of life' to the poor oppressed Afghanis and Iraquis by dropping lots of bombs on them. Bombs are pretty divisive. Destructive too.

speechless.

what a pile of arse.

Bang on time, too predictable.

^So you were just trolling then? Great.

fok this muslim threads still continues relentlessly. Who gives a flying fok about Muslims? Seriously it is an over publicised religion that should have died.

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Seriously it is an over publicised religion that should have died.

don't you mean the biggest practised religion in the world by a massive margin?
daft statement really travelmate.
these religious issues are some of the most important facing the world today.

just closing your eyes and wishing them gone isn't going to achieve much.

Originally Posted by Travelmate

fok this muslim threads still continues relentlessly. Who gives a flying fok about Muslims? Seriously it is an over publicised religion that should have died.

But didn't unfortunately, and is now being taught in schools.

the 1999 valedictorian of the Islamic Saudi Academy was Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, who is now doing 30 years in the pen for joining an Al-Qaeda plot to kill Bush. Surprised? "Review: Troubling passages in texts at Va. school," by Matthew Barakat for AP, June 11 (thanks to all who sent this in):

McLEAN, Va. (AP) — Textbooks at a private Islamic school in northern Virginia teach students that it is permissible for Muslims to kill adulterers and converts from Islam, according to a federal investigation released Wednesday. Other passages in the school's textbooks state that "the Jews conspired against Islam and its people" and that Muslims are permitted to take the lives and property of those deemed "polytheists."

Jihad Watch: Shock horror! Mainstream Islamic teaching taught at Virginia Islamic school: adulterers and apostates should be killed

February 17, 2006

Terrorists Using Islamic Schools in U.S. to Recruit, Train (Updted)

UPDATE: Pakistani cleric with ties to this group has placed a $1,000 bounty on Danish cartoonist's head.
Disturbing report from WND about terror groups using Islamic schools in the U.S. as a front for their recruitment and training activities.
I'm *shocked*. Thanks to Nicholas for sending this link:

The Pakistani terrorist group Jamaat ul Fuqra is using Islamic schools in the United States as training facilities, confirms a joint investigative report by an intelligence think tank and an independent reporter. A covert visit to an encampment in the Catskill Mountains near Hancock, N.Y., called "Islamberg" found neighboring residents deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there but frustrated by the lack of attention from federal authorities, said the report by the Northeast Intelligence Network, which worked with an Internet blogger, "CP," to publish an interim report.
The neighbors interviewed, who asked not to be identified, said they feared retaliation if they were to make a report to law enforcement officials.
"We see children – small children run around over there when they should be in school," one neighbor said. "We hear bursts of gunfire all of the time, and we know that there is military-like training going on there. Those people are armed and dangerous." ...
Jamaat ul-Fuqra, or "community of the impoverished," was formed by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani in New York in 1980. Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," has stated his objective is to "purify" Islam through violence.
Gilani also is the founder of a village in South Carolina called "Holy Islamville."
The encampment in Hancock, N.Y., is run by a front for Jamaat ul-Fuqra called Muslims of the Americas Inc., which operates a school known as the International Quranic Open University Inc....
Though primarily based in Lahore, Pakistan, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has operational headquarters in the U.S.
The group seeks to counter "excessive Western influence on Islam" through any means necessary, publicly embracing the ideology that violence is a significant part of its quest to purify Islam. The enemies of Islam, the group says, are all non-Muslims and any Muslim who does not follow the tenets of fundamentalist Islam as detailed in the Quran.
Jamaat ul-Fuqra openly recruits through various social service organizations in the U.S., including the prison system. Members live in compounds where they agree to abide by the laws of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which are considered to be above local, state and federal authority.
According to the report, there appear to be more than two dozen "Jamaats," or private communities, loosely connected and scattered throughout the U.S. with an estimated 5,000 members.

By Dr. Rusty "John Doe" Shackleford at February 17, 2006 09:12 AM |

The Jawa Report: Terrorists Using Islamic Schools in U.S. to Recruit, Train (Updted)
How long can you bury your head in the sand before someone sticks a boot up your arse.

Originally Posted by cujo

The Jawa Report: Terrorists Using Islamic Schools in U.S. to Recruit, Train (Updted)
How long can you bury your head in the sand before someone sticks a boot up your arse.

I wonder why the mainstream media didn't pick-up this shocking story of Islamic extremists in the heart of the US of A as reported on the above blog and linking to WorldNetDaily.com which, in turn, cites a "joint investigative report" by a blogger identified only as "CP" and the "Northeast Intelligence Network" - seemingly to anti-terrorism efforts as the Minute Men are to immigration.

I can only guess that they - mainstream media- too have their collective heads stuck in the sand. Or perhaps it's something as innocent as not reading the correct blog to begin with?