Apparently I'm envious of CMN, and foreigners murdered in rural Thailand thread

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 10:19 PM

Retired Briton is murdered in his Thai river home | Independent, The (London) | Find Articles at BNET.com

Retired Briton is murdered in his Thai river home

A BRITISH man who retired to Thailand has been murdered fighting off gunmen who burst into the riverside home he shared with his wife and son.
Arthur James Green, 63, a former construction manager, was shot three times in the back and stabbed twice by two men in the attack on the outskirts of Ratchaburi, 60 miles west of Bangkok.
His Thai wife, Yukhonporn, 45, was then driven 20 miles into the countryside at gunpoint by the intruders, who demanded the PIN code for a bank card.
"I stubbornly refused. So they later dropped me near a canal," said Mrs Green.

After a search of the house failed to locate Mr Green, police and rescue workers found his body on the bank of the Mae Klong river. Thai police said the murder, on Saturday night, was premeditated and said Mrs Green had given them information that contradicted details given by her relatives.
Detectives investigating the killing are to interview all of the immediate family. Although they have not ruled out robbery as a motive, they suspect it could have been a revenge murder or a contract killing disguised as a robbery.
Mr Green, from Ripon, North Yorkshire, had been married for 15 years. He had four-grown-up children and six grandchildren by a previous marriage in Britain.
Yesterday, his British family said they were still "numb" at his death and were planning to fly to Thailand in the next couple of days.

**ChiangMai noon** · 10-01-2008, 10:21 PM

excellent.
the ignore thing works well.

never tried to use it before.

**jizzybloke** · 10-01-2008, 10:22 PM

bye bye see you soon

**dirtydog** · 10-01-2008, 10:23 PM

You forgot the date smeggy

Independent, The (London), Feb 11, 2003 by Martin Hickman

**Thetyim** · 10-01-2008, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

they suspect it could have been a revenge murder or a contract killing

And as we all know they are impossible to carry out in a built up area

**colourful-era** · 10-01-2008, 10:24 PM

what's the purpose of this thread?

- people are surely murdered for their money everywhere - is this something to do with the house construction thread.?

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 10:25 PM

MS Thailand | Would your Thai wife murder you for cash? | Farang Life

Have you noticed how many western men living in Thailand seem to suffer violent deaths? Fatal road accidents, burglaries gone wrong and balcony death plunges occur almost daily. Usually they warrant only a couple of lines in the newspaper. Recently, however, I learned about one of these cases in more detail.
Earlier this year my Thai girlfriend went back to Buriram to renew her ID card. Ahead of her in the queue was the widow of a recently deceased westerner who was weeping and being comforted by her brother. She was seeking the authority to claim her dead husband's estate.
When asked for the death certificate, she tearfully explained that her husband had died only the previous day and the hospital had not issued it yet. The desk officer said that he could not process her claim without it.
Suddenly, her tears dried. Over several hours, she argued with officials in a voice loud enough for the growing crowd to hear. It turned out that she had been married for just six months to her farang husband. He had finished building their house only two days previously. On the day of his death, they were celebrating its completion with a small party.

She explained that as they were returning home by motorbike, they were hit by a pick-up truck. Her husband was killed instantly. Sadly, such accidents are not rare in rural Thailand. On the face of it, this was just tragic bad luck but as the discussion continued some facts emerged that cast doubt on this version of events.
After the accident, the driver of the pick-up ferried her husband's body to the hospital morgue. Drivers typically flee the scene of an accident in Thailand because they have nothing to gain from hanging around. Perhaps he was just trying to do the right thing. Perhaps he did not consider that his actions would deny police the opportunity to examine the crash scene. The wife was lucky. She was the pillion passenger but survived the fatal accident with no visible injury.
As time wore on and patience wore thin, her "brother" pitched in. Dressed in army fatigues, he looked like a tough guy. The couple's body language began to give onlookers the impression that they enjoyed a rather more intimate relationship. He was pestering her about how much money he would get.
Leaving this story aside for a moment, let's consider a hypothetical situation. If you were an aging bar girl with a Thai boyfriend and were tired of selling your body, you might be tempted to marry a rich farang. He could build you a house and support your dependents. Obviously your boyfriend and family would be in on it from the start.
Six months down the line, the farang has finished his spending spree and just wants a quiet life. The house may be in your name, but the remaining cash is still his. If you threw him out now, you would be back to square one. Your boyfriend has been swallowing his pride for six months. He may not be squeamish about doing the necessary. It could be made to look like an accident.
Coming back to the real-life story, the onlookers amused themselves by indulging in whispered speculation. Even if there was no foul play involved, you have to feel distaste at the family's haste to cash in. The police did launch an investigation but I don't know the outcome. Maybe a reader can shed some light on it.
Relationship breakdown is always costly but some hapless western men may end up paying the ultimate price.

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

You forgot the date smeggy

Independent, The (London), Feb 11, 2003 by Martin Hickman

This is a history and trends thread not a current affairs thread

**Begbie** · 10-01-2008, 10:26 PM

what's the purpose of this thread?

- people are surely murdered for their money everywhere - is this something to do with the house construction thread.?

Yep CMN has a bigger house than Smeg.

**Marmite the Dog** · 10-01-2008, 10:36 PM

I suppose murdering your bird before she can do you begins to make sense. You're not so dumb after all, are you Smeggy?

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 10:39 PM

I don't accept that rural Thailand is safer for farangs than tourist places. For every foreigner living in rural Thailand there are 1000 in the tourist areas, but I'm sure than more than 0.1% of farangs murdered in Thailand were murdered in rural places.

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 10:42 PM

NationMaster - Murders with firearms (per capita) (most recent) by country

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom) #1 South Africa:0.719782 per 1,000 people
#2 Colombia:0.509801 per 1,000 people
#3 Thailand:0.312093 per 1,000 people
#4 Zimbabwe:0.0491736 per 1,000 people
#5 Mexico:0.0337938 per 1,000 people
#6 Belarus:0.0321359 per 1,000 people
#7 Costa Rica:0.0313745 per 1,000 people
#8 United States:0.0279271 per 1,000 people
#9 Uruguay:0.0245902 per 1,000 people
#10 Lithuania:0.0230748 per 1,000 people
#11 Slovakia:0.021543 per 1,000 people
#12 Czech Republic:0.0207988 per 1,000 people
#13 Estonia:0.0157539 per 1,000 people
#14 Latvia:0.0131004 per 1,000 people
#15 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of:0.0127139 per 1,000 people
#16 Bulgaria:0.00845638 per 1,000 people
#17 Portugal:0.00795003 per 1,000 people
#18 Slovenia:0.00596718 per 1,000 people
#19 Switzerland:0.00534117 per 1,000 people
#20 Canada:0.00502972 per 1,000 people
#21 Germany:0.00465844 per 1,000 people
#22 Moldova:0.00448934 per 1,000 people
#23 Hungary:0.00439692 per 1,000 people
#24 Poland:0.0043052 per 1,000 people
#25 Ukraine:0.00368109 per 1,000 people
#26 Ireland:0.00298805 per 1,000 people
#27 Australia:0.00293678 per 1,000 people
#28 Denmark:0.00257732 per 1,000 people
#29 Spain:0.0024045 per 1,000 people
#30 Azerbaijan:0.00227503 per 1,000 people
#31 New Zealand:0.00173482 per 1,000 people
#32 United Kingdom:0.00102579 per 1,000 people

**Begbie** · 10-01-2008, 10:47 PM

All those drug dealers who shot each other and the war in the south might have some bearing on those numbers.

**Sir Burr** · 10-01-2008, 10:51 PM

Wouldn't you get a more positive response to your anti-Thailand threads on say.....a Singapore forum? You're pushing this shit uphill on a Thai forum, but, you are nothing if not persistent.

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Wouldn't you get a more positive response to your anti-Thailand threads on say.....a Singapore forum? You're pushing this shit uphill on a Thai forum, but, you are nothing if not persistent.

Not an anti-Thailand thread mate. I told CMN that I wouldn't feel safe living in a house in the middle of nowhere in Thailand, and warned him about security, but he brushed it off and instead seems to think this is me being envious of him. Dunno why at all other than I get the impression he is one of these sad gits who, in order to carry on, needs to think that everyone else wants his lifestyle.

**AntRobertson** · 10-01-2008, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

he is one of these sad gits who, in order to carry on, needs to think that everyone else wants his lifestyle.

As compared to, say, a fun-leech that has to focus on the negative. Of everything?

**ChiangMai noon** · 10-01-2008, 11:22 PM

this is bliss.

i think I'll put some more people on ignore.

jarvis next.

**ChiangMai noon** · 10-01-2008, 11:27 PM

No need to read smeg in order to answer him.
3,000 posts here with the same theme, some 5,000 on ajarn ditto.

You were once an interesting troll.

Couple of years or so back at your height when you did the ajarn hot seat interview.
Nowadays you are very poor indeed.

Certainly have had nothing new to offer in recent years.

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 11:29 PM

^ I know I've really got to CMN when he gets like this

**AntRobertson** · 10-01-2008, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

I know I've really got to CMN when he gets like this

You could bore/depress a piece of wood if you put your mind to it I'm sure. To the extent it would actively be seeking to have nails hammered into it.

**ChiangMai noon** · 10-01-2008, 11:33 PM

^
remember when you had half the forum on ignore smeg and you reported me to DD for deliberately quoting people.

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

^
remember when you had half the forum on ignore smeg and you reported me to DD for deliberately quoting people.

I love your exaggerations mate, they make my day:

I had half the forum on ignore
You've met at least half the members of the forum.

I thought you'd stopped being an alky...

**ChiangMai noon** · 10-01-2008, 11:37 PM

what was that??

**Smeg** · 10-01-2008, 11:38 PM

That was one of the 5864 forum members writing something to you...

**AntRobertson** · 10-01-2008, 11:38 PM

^^ He said:

Originally Posted by Smeg

Ah yes you got me there! Righto, I'm a miserable cnut so I'm off to read something really depressing and think about death and stuff

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