Thread: The 'N' Word. Why is it SO offensive to Black People?

Originally Posted by Texpat

Originally Posted by cujo

Shaddup cracker.

Dearest Cujo,

That remark is incredibly insensitive and hurtful.

I respectfully request that you refer to me as a European-American biscuit-cracker combo.

By the way, wtf is an African-American? Ninety-eight percent of Americans have descendants from abroad; should we all be hyphenates? If a black man was born in and came from the dark continent, OK, I'll call him African-American.

If he didn't, he's delusional.

Well how else are we supposed to refer to niggers then!?

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by Texpat

Originally Posted by cujo

Shaddup cracker.

Dearest Cujo,

That remark is incredibly insensitive and hurtful.

I respectfully request that you refer to me as a European-American biscuit-cracker combo.

By the way, wtf is an African-American? Ninety-eight percent of Americans have descendants from abroad; should we all be hyphenates? If a black man was born in and came from the dark continent, OK, I'll call him African-American.

If he didn't, he's delusional.

Well how else are we supposed to refer to niggers then!?

Somewhere in what passes for keda's thought processes I bet he genuinely thinks that's actually pretty funny and witty.

Originally Posted by Milkman

My attitude is, if he wants to use the n-word in private that is his business, and no one elses. Because he was taped secretly (by his son), who released it to the media, he's losing a show

Well, he wasn't prosecuted was he?

Yes, he can refer to his son's girlfriend as a nigger if he wants to, but other people, like his employers are entitled to protect their investment in the show.

Given that some of those viewers are the same people he is referring to, and that they may not want to further the career of a man who speaks like that about them, his employers would be stupid to keep him on.

So, he was allowed to say it, just as people are allowed to dislike him for it.

^ Exactly!

^I see your exactly and raise you several more exclamation marks:

Exactly!!!!

^ and ^^ and ^^^

I don't use this word in private. Not at any time.

But one group can say it and others, cannot. Most of the time the meaning is different, but it's still used in the media by artists, etc.

Either let it be used, (condone it) or condemn all use of it.


(This however....is not how society works.)

Originally Posted by Milkman

But one group can say it and others, cannot. Most of the time the meaning is different, but it's still used in the media by artists, etc.

That's because when one group uses it it doesn't have the same connotations as when the other does. Simple.

There's a certain amount of delicious irony in claiming that it's in any way 'unfair'.

I don't have a problem with niggers, but naggers really get to me.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

...progress as a civilised society...

I am doing my part to eliminate racism by fathering mixed-race children. Regardless of whether this tactic will eventually wipe out racism, it sure is fun trying!

One idea I have long held is for the Olympics to eliminate national origin in identifying athletes. Let the Games be about the athletes, not the countries. No more nationalistic jingoism.

Another idea is to bring back intermarraige between children of heads-of-state. To get the ball rolling, we here can offer one serious, smart girl, and another energetic spunky one.

It's very simple, really.

Using potentially offensive jargon between friends and people who belong to one's group is ok. One can easily spot what is meant, as a long-term immigrant, like myself, one learns to tell the difference between a friendly nudge and intending to hurt.

The dishonesty of the hopelessly prejudiced is astonishing, isn't it, keda?

Originally Posted by zipcode

One idea I have long held is for the Olympics to eliminate national origin in identifying athletes. Let the Games be about the athletes, not the countries. No more nationalistic jingoism.

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Yes, good idea, all this nationality thing gets a bit tedious

In motor racing they have started the A1 races, cars by nationality rather than manufacturing teams. It is a boring idea, although the racing can be OK



At least F1 is more focussed on the teams and drivers, but they still insist on playing national anthems at the end for some archaic reason

mind you, that will not eliminate racism, which is based usually on physiological differences

Anybody have the lyrics to kumbaya?
I'm in a loving mood.


(hic)

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by JimmyCA

What is the world comming to when you can't call a spade a spade

On many topics, if you state what is a fact, it's considered bad.


A pussified society, and frankly, I am sick of it.

quite right Milkman, you tell it like it is

I think you should immediately go to your nearest black neighbourhood and call them all "niggers". That'll show 'em

My statement above is not about blacks or the N-word.

The comment about "calling a spade a spade," means that if some phenomena is considered true because of factual evidence and you discuss it, people will ban you, fire, you and attack you.

You have totally misunderstood my post.

"Calling a spade a spade," is a very common expression in the U.S. and is not about race.

Milkman, you are right calling a spade a spade is a common expression, more common 30 years ago. Blacks are also referred to as spades in some circles so there is overlap. I am not sure if the original saying has anything to do with blacks, it probably has something to do with a spade vs a shovel.

^I dont think Andy had any problem undestanding the expression 'calling a spade a spade', his response showed that. 'Tell it like it is'.

I would say that is a world wide English expression.

Can't call them boys either. Not even a group of black boys -- must refer to them as children.

This is getting tough.

^ You a speed reader (15 posts in 10 minutes) ??

Originally Posted by kekaki

because they dun want white to call them that way

Nigger

Originally Posted by JoGeAr

^ You a speed reader (15 posts in 10 minutes) ??

you a speed reader, replying to a 2 year old post?

What are we supposed to call them? They call us whiteys.????

call them niggers to their face, at least

have fun

Originally Posted by crippen

What are we supposed to call them? They call us whiteys.????

I thought that they called us "Honkies"!

Never did quite work out the origin of that.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Anybody have the lyrics to kumbaya?
I'm in a loving mood.


(hic)

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, the Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya
Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah
Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah
Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah
Oh Lord, kum ba yah
Someone’s laughing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s laughing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s laughing, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya
Hear me crying, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me crying, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me crying, Lord, kum ba yah
Oh Lord, kum ba yah
Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya
Hear me singing, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me singing, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me singing, Lord, kum ba yah
Oh Lord, kum ba yah
Someone’s praying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s praying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s praying, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya
Hear me praying, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me praying, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me praying, Lord, kum ba yah
Oh Lord, kum ba yah
Someone’s singing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s singing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s singing, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya .