Thread: I'm completely fcuking confused about non-binary pronouns

Originally Posted by Simon43

Why can't we call a spade a spade nowadays?

...because the spades think it's racist...

Originally Posted by tomcat

...because the spades think it's racist...

Only 'mercans" use the word spade to refer to anything other than a tool. Call a spade a spade but don't call it a ferkin shovel>

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Only 'mercans" use the word spade to refer to anything other than a tool. Call a spade a spade but don't call it a ferkin shovel>

And all this time I thought it meant the high card.

They can be singular; that's no problem, common, normal language usage.

hmm... It, seems to work.

Doesn't really matter, if they desire they will find offense regardless of how you address the issue, even if you use the "correct" pronoun the'll say the tone you used insulted them, him, her, it, she, m. sexually bewildered...

the deck is stacked, a can't win situation

The worlds full of silly fuking wankers Simon.

There's the real answer.

Originally Posted by Norton

Shirley, this is the one you meant, Norton?

Originally Posted by Simon43

So here's this chap, er... woman, er ... non-binary (whatever the fcuk that means, 'cos non-binary means sod-all to me unless it involves digital electronics).

Anyway, Sam Smith (which I thought was a brewery), is now to be referred to as 'they' or 'them'.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49688123

I'm sorry, but my basic English grammar knowledge informs me that 'they' or 'them' refers to two or more people.

Is he schizophrenic or something?

Why can't we call a spade a spade nowadays? If this person doesn't know whether he - sorry they, are coming or going, then that's er .. their problem. Just don't fcuking confuse everyone else 'cos actually no-one else really gives a flying fcuk.

BTW, I recently got an email from the British embassy who signed as 'John (pronoun he or him)'

World's gone barmy...

Binary means relating to two things. In this context the traditional classification into male or female. The person in the OP is saying he feels niether male nor female, hence non binary.

English has no gender neutral form, it is either he or she. I do kind of understand the issues, but frankly feel too old to give a shit about it. Colour me dinosaur.


Actually on reflection "it" would fit the bill nicely.

Except in this case it is considered derogatory

Hey Willy, is this derogatory ?

Give me old fella a suck will ya.

Just askin.

He doesn't identify as male or female. Although has short hair and a beard..

It's all bullshit. Wouldn't surprise me if he's got an album coming out.

Sorry, I mean it wouldn't surprise me if they have an album coming out

In Mandarin Chinese 'he' 他 (tā), and 'she' 她 (tā), are pronounced the same.

In Spanish the possessive adjective su is the same for his, her, its, or their.

555 I think I'm trailing off somewhere and I don't know where I'm taking this...

It's so discriminatory for those that identify as non-human. Trees for example.

So he's basically admitting that he's schizophrenic then.

Originally Posted by Simon43

... non-binary (whatever the fcuk that means)

Exactly.

Over thinking most everything to the point of unnecessary and needless complexities.

Do we see a cultural pattern, yet?

Is it such a big deal to call someone what they want to be called when it's precisely zero imposition or impact on your own life? Is it really any different from back in the day when that one teacher insisted you call them 'sir' when they were neither a Sir and were in fact a jumped-up cnut? Who really gives a fcuk. Or is there some other way this can be made into an assault on and affront to straight white men who are the victims of, well, everything (ask them, they'll tell you).

They's music is shite anyways.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Is it such a big deal to call someone what they want to be called when it's precisely zero imposition or impact on your own life? Is it really any different from back in the day when that one teacher insisted you call them 'sir' when they were neither a Sir and were in fact a jumped-up cnut? Who really gives a fcuk. Or is there some other way this can be made into an assault on and affront to straight white men who are the victims of, well, everything (ask them, they'll tell you).

They's music is shite anyways.

It's not that. It's that they get all fucking offended when you forget.

I call one bloke "he" and multiple blokes "they" and if he/they want to argue about it, he/they can contact the OED and go and fuck himself/themselves.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Is it such a big deal to call someone what they want to be called when it's precisely zero imposition or impact on your own life? Is it really any different from back in the day when that one teacher insisted you call them 'sir' when they were neither a Sir and were in fact a jumped-up cnut? Who really gives a fcuk. Or is there some other way this can be made into an assault on and affront to straight white men who are the victims of, well, everything (ask them, they'll tell you).

They's music is shite anyways.

Therefore not knowing in advance can cause offense? Personally I have no time for labels. If anyone finds offense with this, please feel free to add them to whichever collective noun you are most comfortable with.

Meanwhile, I will be assiduously not giving a toss.

Originally Posted by Switch

Therefore not knowing in advance can cause offense? Personally I have no time for labels. If anyone finds offense with this, please feel free to add them to whichever collective noun you are most comfortable with.

Meanwhile, I will be assiduously not giving a toss.

Yup. Self-obsessed people taking themselves way too seriously, and falling all over themselves to be 'offended' on behalf of other people they don't even know. Please..

Originally Posted by kmart

Self-obsessed people taking themselves way too seriously

Exactly.

This bloke Smith needs to ease off on the stimulants or he'll end up like 'the symbol' (Prince).