Thread: Will Thais wipe out the human race

Every time my wife has an upset stomach she goes straight to the doctor on the first day who gives her a course of antibiotics. She says most Thais do the same. The cause of antibiotic resistance that will plunge medicine back into the dark ages?

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Unfortunately the average Thai has had the originality and independent thinking fooked out of them.

Just let em get on with it mate.

That said,

There are plenty of Thais who rise above the average Pleb and are quite capable of seeing through the bullshit.

I can understand Thais doing this nonsense with antibiotics since they are available over the counter in LOS but why are qualified Thai medical doctors colluding with them in this medical horse-shittery?

Surely these educated folk should be banging home the message that antibiotics are no use whatsoever for the common cold etc. Do they not learn this basic stuff at Thai medical school?

Originally Posted by Looper

I can understand Thais doing this nonsense with antibiotics since they are available over the counter in LOS but why are qualified Thai medical doctors colluding with them in this medical horse-shittery?

Surely these educated folk should be banging home the message that antibiotics are no use whatsoever for the common cold etc. Do they not learn this basic stuff at Thai medical school?

Every GP I have ever seen in private practice also sells medicine. That doesn't help at all with over-prescribing.
Should be a law against it.

Originally Posted by Trumpton

Every time my wife has an upset stomach she goes straight to the doctor on the first day who gives her a course of antibiotics. She says most Thais do the same. The cause of antibiotic resistance that will plunge medicine back into the dark ages?

You give the thais far too much credit. Antibiotic misuse is rampant all over the world. Here is an interesting little fact: 80% of all antibiotics sold in america are used by the meat and poultry industry.

Knowing that similar things are going on in china, and you get an idea of where the real threat arises.

China is finally looking to do something about it. I can't see any similar stories here.

China tackles antimicrobial resistance | Science | AAAS

My wife genuinely believes that antibiotics are the only way she'll feel better when in fact she's doing the opposite by not allowing her immune system to do the job and strengthen itself against future bouts. The doctors likely go along with it and dish out whatever to avoid having to tell their patients that their lifelong belief is wrong and cause loss of face.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Here is an interesting little fact: 80% of all antibiotics sold in america are used by the meat and poultry industry.

Your interesting little fact is almost irrelevant to resistance against antibiotics used for humans. Most antibiotics given to animals are ionophores and tetracyclines which are very rarely used for humans.

Worrying

“At least 100 people die per day in Thailand alone from antibiotic resistance,” Dr Niyada said. “You may not think it is a big problem unless the person affected is someone you know. But it killed as many people as deadly diseases like cancer.”

Dr Niyada, a drug researcher and assistant professor at Chulalongkorn University’s faculty of pharmaceutical sciences, presented her initial research for Antibiotic Awareness Week 2015, held from Tuesday to Thursday. Her final results are expected by the end of the year.

Dr Niyada has examined antibiotic resistance in Thailand, Europe and America. Thailand had 38,000 cases, which was greater than all of Europe, which recorded 25,000 deaths

If the doctor doesn't give them at lest two types of pills, he is no good as a doctor!

Yes good point. Thais won't go back to that clinic if they paid 500 baht to be told to be patient because it'll get better without medication.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

You give the thais far too much credit. Antibiotic misuse is rampant all over the world.

That's absolutely correct.

Published reports in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) show that at least 30 percent of antibiotics prescribed in the United States are unnecessary.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...criptions.html


Europe even has an annual European Antibiotic Awareness Day (EAAD) on November 18th every year due to the levels of misuse in the EU.

Originally Posted by Trumpton

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Here is an interesting little fact: 80% of all antibiotics sold in america are used by the meat and poultry industry.

Your interesting little fact is almost irrelevant to resistance against antibiotics used for humans. Most antibiotics given to animals are ionophores and tetracyclines which are very rarely used for humans.

You might like to have a quick look at the colistin/mcr-1 story.

Originally Posted by Auroria

Originally Posted by nidhogg

You give the thais far too much credit. Antibiotic misuse is rampant all over the world.

That's absolutely correct.

Europe even has an annual European Antibiotic Awareness Day (EAAD) on November 18th every year due to the levels of misuse in the EU.

Err yes and as you point out, Europe is tackling it. What is Thailand doing despite having a more fierce problem?

Dr Niyada has examined antibiotic resistance in Thailand, Europe and America. Thailand had 38,000 cases, which was greater than all of Europe, which recorded 25,000 deaths

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by Trumpton

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Here is an interesting little fact: 80% of all antibiotics sold in america are used by the meat and poultry industry.

Your interesting little fact is almost irrelevant to resistance against antibiotics used for humans. Most antibiotics given to animals are ionophores and tetracyclines which are very rarely used for humans.

You might like to have a quick look at the colistin/mcr-1 story.

I'm well aware of it, and your assumptions that I'm not and about its importance displays your ignorance about the issue. It's a highly toxic antibiotic that's not used for humans. Resistance to it is a wake up call to the wider problems that the many far less toxic antobiotics that are used for humans have been rendered useless by overuse by humans.

It is an unemployment solution.

Originally Posted by Trumpton

Originally Posted by Auroria

Originally Posted by nidhogg

You give the thais far too much credit. Antibiotic misuse is rampant all over the world.

That's absolutely correct.

Europe even has an annual European Antibiotic Awareness Day (EAAD) on November 18th every year due to the levels of misuse in the EU.

Err yes and as you point out, Europe is tackling it. What is Thailand doing despite having a more fierce problem?

Puppet shows, songs, exhibitions and outreach activities in hospitals, pharmacies, colleges and public meeting places in Bangkok marked the World Antibiotic Awareness Week in Thailand. The activities were organized by several civil society groups together with hospitals and the Thai Ministry of Public Health around the Thai capital city, involving hundreds of citizens as part of an effort to raise awareness about the threat of antibiotic resistance.


Among the organizers of several events for the World Antibiotic Awareness Week were ReAct Asia Pacific’s partners Drug Systems Monitoring and Development Center (DMDC) and the Thai Health Foundation. Activities carried out included workshops, press conferences, radio shows, distribution of ReAct material and interaction with members of the public curious to know more about the subject.

“The Thai media showed much interest in implications of antimicrobial resistance for Thailand and there is growing public awareness too about the problem now.”

said Dr Niyada Kiatying-Angsulee, Manager, DMDC.

World Antibiotic Awareness Week: Thailand marks the week with colorful public events ? ReAct

Originally Posted by Trumpton

It's a highly toxic antibiotic that's not used for humans.

Agreed on toxicity. But to claim that it is not used for humans is simply incorrect.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by Trumpton

It's a highly toxic antibiotic that's not used for humans.

Agreed on toxicity. But to claim that it is not used for humans is simply incorrect.

The nasty, impolite Private Messages I've just received from the OP indicate that he may be overdosing on them, or something at least.

I see Thai women as attention seekers. Go to a government hospital and it's packed with women first thing in the morning. Obviously the doctors ain't gonna find anything wrong but that would make the patient look stupid and the doctor not very good cuz he can't find anything wrong. So he dishes out a course of antibiotics and some Paracetamol and everyone's happy.

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It's true mate.


Be a riot if Lek fronted up to the Doctor and he did not dish out a handful of Multi colored pills.

Originally Posted by Auroria

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by Trumpton

It's a highly toxic antibiotic that's not used for humans.

Agreed on toxicity. But to claim that it is not used for humans is simply incorrect.

The nasty, impolite Private Messages I've just received from the OP indicate that he may be overdosing on them, or something at least.

Sends nasty impolite reds to someone who can't return them and then moans when they get returned by PM instead. What a worm.

Originally Posted by Auroria

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by Trumpton

It's a highly toxic antibiotic that's not used for humans.

Agreed on toxicity. But to claim that it is not used for humans is simply incorrect.

The nasty, impolite Private Messages I've just received from the OP indicate that he may be overdosing on them, or something at least.

Ah. I shall expect mine shortly.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by Trumpton

It's a highly toxic antibiotic that's not used for humans.

Agreed on toxicity. But to claim that it is not used for humans is simply incorrect.

It's used extremely rarely as an absolute last resort because it's so strong, and resistance to it highlighted that the antibiotics commonly used for humans are becoming useless and need to be replaced. That's the big challenge. Colistin itself becoming useless because of use in animals isn't a big deal in itself because it's not a nice drug and can't replace the human-use antibiotics.

Since it is the placebo effect working on the Thais they should should just dish up a bottle of placebos to keep them quiet and to keep the antibiotics effective for when they have a genuinely treatable condition.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by Auroria

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by Trumpton

It's a highly toxic antibiotic that's not used for humans.

Agreed on toxicity. But to claim that it is not used for humans is simply incorrect.

The nasty, impolite Private Messages I've just received from the OP indicate that he may be overdosing on them, or something at least.

Ah. I shall expect mine shortly.

Well don't. That tosser thinks he can send multiple insults behind closed doors week in week out in reds and then poos his pants when they are finally returned in a PM.