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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    as usual you missed the point,

    regulating means also making examples by punishing the guilty parties,

    banning is one option, but not the only option

    obviously for stocks, it would be very very naive (like you just did) to think that a complete ban was the only solution, not taking into account the historical role of stocks in the financial system

    but for bitcoins, they have no role in our financial system, so a complete ban is not going to bother anyone, except a few dodgy speculators, money laundering agents, chavs, plumber boys, and chinese peaseants
    Where did I advocate a complete ban on stocks?

    Do consider that punter Joe is always at the bottom of the food chain, often thick and gullible and easy to manipulate, which is why he needs regs to protect him while those higher up find regulation distasteful.

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    ^^

    Of course, but there was actually a route in place some could take and some did.

    Unlike digital tokens, currently.

    ^

    I suspect those "higher up" employ another to take care of such trivialities.
    Last edited by OhOh; 04-02-2018 at 05:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Where did I advocate a complete ban on stocks?
    you asked why the regulators didn't ban dotcom stocks as a counter-comparison to banning bitcoins, which was a very naive counter-argument of your part, hence me explaining you why

    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Do consider that punter Joe is always at the bottom of the food chain, often thick and gullible and easy to manipulate,
    yes he is, and this thread is the perfect example

    I am also in favor in banning all vice games, like gambling, betting and casino roulette

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    which is why he needs regs to protect him while those higher up find regulation distasteful.
    yes, the average person needs the protection from himself

    as for the attitude of the rich and famous, they can afford losing money so the rules are not the same

    who cares if a few hedge funds lose billions in bad decisions for their rich clients, part of the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    As for his attempted evasion to remind us that punters sued brokers for pushing the dotcom 'bubble', he forgot to mention it was because the brokers breached regulations and ethical trading practice which allowed the punters to sue.
    jesus, you have a wild imagination, do you hear voices too ?

    I didn't forget anything, brokers have a "fit product" requirement, which at the time wasn't violated. Only if you could prove the product wasn't fit, you could sue your broker. And the definition of fit is also assimilated with the investor financial capacity. If the broker ignored that financial capacity when soliciting clients, then he was violating his duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    you asked why the regulators didn't ban dotcom stocks as a counter-comparison to banning bitcoins, which was a very naive counter-argument of your part, hence me explaining you why
    Mild correction: I didn't advocate or ask for anything to be banned. Would you like me to, just to make you right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    jesus, you have a wild imagination, do you hear voices too ?

    I didn't forget anything, brokers have a "fit product" requirement, which at the time wasn't violated. Only if you could prove the product wasn't fit, you could sue your broker. And the definition of fit is also assimilated with the investor financial capacity. If the broker ignored that financial capacity when soliciting clients, then he was violating his duty.
    You go on about missed points, and continue missing them yourself.

    You keep using distractions (and false accusations) about what is fit, proper, legal ethical or unethical, while utterly dismissing what makes them so. I suppose it's regulation, you seem to think it's something else.

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    Those who called it a ponzi scheme im starting to agree with.

    Why do every single one of them either go up or go down at the same time?

    The bit about 4% owningt 95% is the answer i reckon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Mild correction: I didn't advocate or ask for anything to be banned. Would you like me to, just to make you right?
    again you are going in circles and denying what you said, your clearly made the comparisons as an argument. At least be courageous and own what you said, instead of being a little weasel

    bitcoins are frauds, and the public deserve to be protected. It's really that simple. Not sure why you can't agree with that very simple and noble principle

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    You go on about missed points, and continue missing them yourself.

    You keep using distractions (and false accusations) about what is fit, proper, legal ethical or unethical, while utterly dismissing what makes them so. I suppose it's regulation, you seem to think it's something else.
    false accusations ? more voices in your head ?

    where is the distractions, when it's not fit, you can't sell it to that person, that's what the regulations say. Again quite clear in principles. Bitcoins are not fit for the public and therefore should be protected with possibly a ban if there is no way to regulate exchanges. In a regulated exchanges, the margin account will automatically filter out 95% of the public.

    Do you have a reading comprehension problem or simply a critical thinking problem ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Those who called it a ponzi scheme im starting to agree with.

    Why do every single one of them either go up or go down at the same time?

    The bit about 4% owningt 95% is the answer i reckon
    of course it's a ponzi, it's a game actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    of course it's a ponzi, it's a game actually
    You really haven't a clue.

    Bitcoin is pure Austrian economics, completely unlike the USD Ponzi scheme..

    Bitcoin is a new animal humanity has never seen before.

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    Just check my original gamble of £473 is now worth £251 But with buying and selling the original same 2 LTC I now own 2.2 LTC. I owe an enormous debt to them for limiting me to a £500 gamble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    I owe an enormous debt to them for limiting me to a £500 gamble.

    You owe them for setting a limit on how much you gamble?

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    ^^ Inspired me to total up my long term portfolio.

    Currently -5.4%

    First minus since starting in late November.


    Think was 33% one week ago, and 10% during the week.

    Think the most I was up was around 170%.



    There's a fun year ahead.

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    Correct think LTC was about £230 at the time I bought and I tried to buy 10 but they would only let me invest/ gamble £500. So by limiting me to how much I could deposit/ gamble, this is coinbase they've saved me a £1000 give or take.

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    ^If you bring a note from your mother will they let you up the wager?

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    he knew as much about litecoin as he knows about butterfluffers delights who is running after horse cock in the 6th at flemmington

    all this spank wanieling - I am still 4 times up on what I have put in

    but shortly there will be someone along to explain EC cryptology , DH keys , blockchains and trustless exchanges

    and they will know as much as burriram boy about horseflesh buggering butterfluffer

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    hey plumber boy, how much have you put into that scam ?

    don't be afraid, tell us like it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    ^^ Inspired me to total up my long term portfolio.

    Currently -5.4%

    First minus since starting in late November.


    Think was 33% one week ago, and 10% during the week.

    Think the most I was up was around 170%.



    There's a fun year ahead.
    As you posted months ago it is a bit of fun and many here have been helpful. According to the professionals it may go down but has a chance of going up again.

    If and when is the important thing. Would you cash out if you made a 100% profit before your intended year is up?
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    the following banks have banned crypto-currency purchases on their credit cards:

    jp morgan chase
    bank of america
    citigroup
    capital one

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-credit-cards
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    ^I bet they let you use them at ATM's in Vegas casinos though

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    It is probably because of the amount of people doing charge backs on the cards

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    It is probably because of the amount of people doing charge backs on the cards
    Or is it wise self-interest that if customers spend up large on a BS fad investment and lose, there's a good chance the banks lose? They can't get blood out of a stone.

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    Some cardcos treat payments to crypto exchanges as a cash withdrawal. Never miss a trick!

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