Thread: What if it all goes tits up?

I think every one knows whats coming, and the uncertainty of how people will react is a bit of a worry.
The military jumped the gun last year and they have now had to extend their stay in power.
That is causing more problems as the country sinks further under the incompetence of their inept decision making process. Every day he lose his temper and over reacts brings the nadir closer.

Think I will pick up some shirts and strides from the tailors and book meself in for a colonic.

Silk cushion covers, a wooden elephant, Bencharong tea cup, a bag of car-guy chicken snacks, boxer shorts, nice pyjamas.

Oh, look!
The wise ones about all things Thai speaketh.

Pay attention.
The end is near.

When it "goes tits up," it's too late anyway...

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

When it "goes tits up," it's too late anyway...

But, but, what does that mean?

The stock market goes 'tits-up'. Inflation eats up your savings so that's the definition of 'tits-up'?

This is a 20th century phrase, probably of military origin. There's certainly no mention of it in print prior to WWII. It has been suggested that the term derives from the behaviour of aeroplanes' altitude indicators, which turn upside down when faulty and display an inverted 'W' resembling a pair of breasts. There's no real evidence to support this speculation and it seems more likely that the phrase is just a vulgar alternative to the earlier 'belly-up', which has the same meaning.

'Belly-up' is an allusion to fish, which float that way when 'dead in the water'. This expression was known in the USA by the 1920s, often related to bancruptcy or other commercial disasters...

-There ya go...

I think I'm going to be in the shit. My slingshot and air pistol probably won't be able to hold off the starving hoards.....

^Aren't you packin' a "sawd off" shotgun over your shoulder there, koman?...

Originally Posted by koman

I think I'm going to be in the shit. My slingshot and air pistol probably won't be able to hold off the starving hoards.....

Watching too many Zombie movies...

^Being tits up didn't stop them...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by koman

I think I'm going to be in the shit. My slingshot and air pistol probably won't be able to hold off the starving hoards.....

Watching too many Zombie movies...

Yea,,,after watching the TV series "Walking Dead"...I realized how inadequate my firepower is to stop them....and the BIB have been holding up the paperwork to let me bring it up to standard.

Originally Posted by chassamui

I posted a while ago asking if posters had a plan B, an escape route if the country becomes too difficult to sustain you and yours.

Chas,
Interesting thread/subject if taken seriously.

I’ve been in and out of Thailand for close to 30 years. Pretty much the entire time has been one of uncertainty. This, that or the other thing provides the uncertainty. In my experience, Thailand has never been stable.

And, it did go "tits-up" on me in the late nineties when the Asian financial crisis hit. Money dried up and all hell broke loose. Factories of Thais going to work on payday, end-of-month and being told we don’t have any money to pay you. Not a happy time in Thailand. Basically, I had to leave, no money, no work, gave my girlfriend (now my wife) the option to join me in the USA. Had to hang around Thailand for approximately six months for her immigration visa paperwork to clear. Not a fun time.

Political instability. In my experience it is status quo in Thailand. Votes of no confidence, coups, elections, seem to always be on the near horizon. I have always been, and will always be, ready to leave on a moments notice and I will always be registered with, and dependent upon, my Embassy to evacuate me and my wife (USA permanent resident), should the need arise.

As far as a formal backup plan – I keep my money offshore, will not buy any valuable property in Thailand – i.e. I’ll only purchase what I am willing to leave behind or lose.

Now, I am also dependent upon my extended Thai family to provide me with shelter and protection. If the fit hits the shan, it will be up to my Thai family and the US military to save my bacon. Also can't discount divine intervention. Of course, on a personal note, my bucket list is empty, there is nothing that I want to do that I have not done. So, if my numbers up – so be it.

God forbid Thailand ever goes through what happened in Indonesia when the Suharto regime collapsed.

"Tit's up"...when the country you reside in seriously comes for you.

Think Mao, Khmer Rouge , Stalin , Hitler, Tutsis /Hutus , Sri Lanka/ Tamils , fundamentalist Sunni/ fundamentalist Shi'ia , Zimbabwee, Rhodesia, Uganda, etc.

That's some serious Tit's up...and that my friend is what, where and when one should have a very quick exit Plan B firmly ingrained...you need not dwell on the possibility - but never deny that it exists.

Once the bombs start exploding and the rivers have bodies floating - MOVE quickly brothers...
presently I do not feel any iota of this type of vibe in Thailand.

[Though I won't deny that the Thai roads/ highways/vehicle operators are killers...mostly at night or while driving in inclement weather.]

What if the real possibility of becoming tits up everywhere, even in your beloved and fanaticized West?

Where ya gonna run to?

^Best get "prepping" then. https://www.youtube.com/show/doomsdaypreppers

Originally Posted by bowie

Political instability. In my experience it is status quo in Thailand.

Very interesting reply Bowie, thanks for that. I agree on the default instability issue. I arrived shortly after the airport occupation in 2008. No wonder flights were cheap.
I honestly believe the present government is trying to engineer a highly controversial issue over which they have little control. The outcome is unpredictable, as is the aftermath. I referred earlier to the natural resilience of the Thai and while this may ameliorate the impact, I suspect the national outpouring of grief will be off the Richter scale.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Once the bombs start exploding and the rivers have bodies floating - MOVE quickly brothers...

If anyone is still around at this point, the time for plan B will be long gone.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

What if the real possibility of becoming tits up everywhere, even in your beloved and fanaticized West? Where ya gonna run to?

As you seem to inhabit a different part of the galaxy to everyone else, you and your posts become increasingly irrelevant. When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Think I will pick up some shirts and strides from the tailors and book meself in for a colonic.

I should imagine that in your case the irrigation session would be quite a long one.

I think I would book the Oriental for my parting weekend thus ensuring my last memory of the place was a pleasant one. Drinking a rather nice Chardonnay, gazing upon the Chaopraya at sunset from the Terrace and surrounded by competent skivvies, would be a most agreeable epilogue.

I would get some sausages and run into Gullivers , shouting "Victory is mine" and throw the sausages around said establishment

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Drinking a rather nice Chardonnay, gazing upon the Chaopraya at sunset from the Terrace

and then you will retire to the closet with a shoelace and a katoy ?

Originally Posted by chassamui

the national outpouring of grief will be off the Richter scale.

with many trying to out do one another for face gain

Watching from the safety of Malaysia . . . that 'Muslim' country where all non-Muslims are doomed . . . doomed I tell you

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

"Tit's up"...when the country you reside in seriously comes for you.

Think Mao, Khmer Rouge , Stalin , Hitler, Tutsis /Hutus , Sri Lanka/ Tamils , fundamentalist Sunni/ fundamentalist Shi'ia , Zimbabwee, Rhodesia, Uganda, etc.

That's some serious Tit's up...and that my friend is what, where and when one should have a very quick exit Plan B firmly ingrained...you need not dwell on the possibility - but never deny that it exists.

Once the bombs start exploding and the rivers have bodies floating - MOVE quickly brothers...
presently I do not feel any iota of this type of vibe in Thailand.

[Though I won't deny that the Thai roads/ highways/vehicle operators are killers...mostly at night or while driving in inclement weather.]

But bombs have been exploding, and not just in the south where what, 5000 are dead over the last 7 years? It's like Iraq, maybe worse.

And today, how many people are being held secretly, tortured, disappeared at this very moment? This kind of stuff in the past sometimes took decades to see the light of day, with the internet, maybe we'll know sooner.

The only thing that saves Thailand from all out civil war is the complacency of the citizens who, in the past had limited information available to them. But now they know a lot more about how in the dark they are kept. They are the clear majority, too despite fixed up polls made in Bangkok Hi So shopping malls.

This junta mean to hold on to power, and they absolutely must control information. I see a day very, very soon when the nation is as isolated as N Korea.

Shit hits fan and sooner rather than later. Get out now while the getting is good.

Originally Posted by YOrlov

But bombs have been exploding, and not just in the south where what, 5000 are dead over the last 7 years? It's like Iraq, maybe worse.

And today, how many people are being held secretly, tortured, disappeared at this very moment? This kind of stuff in the past sometimes took decades to see the light of day, with the internet, maybe we'll know sooner.

The only thing that saves Thailand from all out civil war is the complacency of the citizens who, in the past had limited information available to them. But now they know a lot more about how in the dark they are kept. They are the clear majority, too despite fixed up polls made in Bangkok Hi So shopping malls.

This junta mean to hold on to power, and they absolutely must control information. I see a day very, very soon when the nation is as isolated as N Korea.

Shit hits fan and sooner rather than later. Get out now while the getting is good.

I think you are exaggerating a little - but I agree that the risk of a civil war is still there.
For that reason - combined with the fact that I was fed up with Thailand - I am now observing from across the river

Revolution is always a possibility when the masses become tired of empty promises from their government. I am sure this will not happen in Thailand where all the 6 oclock speeches on the TV will be followed through to completion and the masses will be very happy with their new and better country.

If you believe the above, I have some rice land I would like to sell you. It reminds me of all the campaign promises that never came to fruition over the last 50 years in the US.

Governments are always worried about the masses uprising and will either use rhetoric or violence to quell this unrest. This has been seen throughout history and is occuring now in many countries. The amount of time a government can keep the masses at bay has a lot to do with how well they have brainwashed everyone. The western countries seem to have this down to a science. How long before this country finally catches on to what is really happening will depend on the mentality and tolerance level of its inhabitants.

Originally Posted by YOrlov

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

"Tit's up"...when the country you reside in seriously comes for you.

Think Mao, Khmer Rouge , Stalin , Hitler, Tutsis /Hutus , Sri Lanka/ Tamils , fundamentalist Sunni/ fundamentalist Shi'ia , Zimbabwee, Rhodesia, Uganda, etc.

That's some serious Tit's up...and that my friend is what, where and when one should have a very quick exit Plan B firmly ingrained...you need not dwell on the possibility - but never deny that it exists.

Once the bombs start exploding and the rivers have bodies floating - MOVE quickly brothers...
presently I do not feel any iota of this type of vibe in Thailand.

[Though I won't deny that the Thai roads/ highways/vehicle operators are killers...mostly at night or while driving in inclement weather.]

But bombs have been exploding, and not just in the south where what, 5000 are dead over the last 7 years? It's like Iraq, maybe worse.

And today, how many people are being held secretly, tortured, disappeared at this very moment? This kind of stuff in the past sometimes took decades to see the light of day, with the internet, maybe we'll know sooner.

The only thing that saves Thailand from all out civil war is the complacency of the citizens who, in the past had limited information available to them. But now they know a lot more about how in the dark they are kept. They are the clear majority, too despite fixed up polls made in Bangkok Hi So shopping malls.

This junta mean to hold on to power, and they absolutely must control information. I see a day very, very soon when the nation is as isolated as N Korea.

Shit hits fan and sooner rather than later. Get out now while the getting is good.

According to The Nation more than 20,000 people die annually in road fatalities.
That should be a concern for all.

Sure the Thai Army vs Muslim insurgency in the South has been an ongoing concern , though apparently I personally do not perceive the same Iraq scenario of violence as you suggest.
I definitely do not see the ostracizing of Thailand by the West.

Yorlov, maybe it's time for one of us to get new bifocals ?
or or