Moog's Coming Out Thread

[ENT]

Oi!

It was you who was explaining the complexities of preferred anal penetration by consenting males.

Get off your high horse.

[The Ghost Of The Moog]

Oi!

It was you who was explaining the complexities of preferred anal penetration by consenting males.

Get off your high horse.

Yes but I'd set it up for a funnier reply. Not....

'Are you talking from personal experience?'

Up your game man ! That was a kind of third form reply.

[ENT]

In other words, you're trolling in the news section.

[Fondles]

Fry has said recently that he has never engaged in sodomy, but does partake in intercrural sex with his boys.

Well I guess he would save a bit of coin not having to buy new pillows all the time.

[chassamui]

Many posters alarmed by this think nothing of a 57 male hooking up with a 27 year old Asian bird. Considerable hypocrisy here.

On the subject of marriages, I believe the ceremony will tend more toward the non-denominational. It is increasingly archaic, and since methodists permit church weddings which are little more than the pandering to the brides aesthetics, the options remain even if it is a little dishonest.

[Seekingasylum]

In other words, you're trolling in the news section.

The world is a somewhat more complex place than what you would hope to reduce it to, ENT.

Most of us appreciate Moog's posts which often present an alternate view from a, more often than not, witty iconoclast.
He isn't trolling, nor is on a high horse and quite why you would wish to introduce a gratuitous allegation of zoophilia remains a mystery.

[ENT]

In other words, you're trolling in the news section.

The world is a somewhat more complex place than what you would hope to reduce it to, ENT.

Most of us appreciate Moog's posts which often present an alternate view from a, more often than not, witty iconoclast.
He isn't trolling, nor is on a high horse and quite why you would wish to introduce a gratuitous allegation of zoophilia remains a mystery.

Get your facts straight, and the horse before the cart.

Zoophilia was Moog's introduced view not mine.

[VocalNeal]

BTW, love all the comments about the age difference from TD ers. What is that Bible saying? Remove the beam from thine own eye.....

Something to do with glass houses?

[Pragmatic]

My daily mail link is blocked by the Ministry of Info. Is it just me?

Try this link. Holiday Brits to put £14bn on plastic | Daily Mail Online and then press 'news' top left.

[Bettyboo]

people love their dogs, have no expectation of having children with them, and gain great comfort and security from them in their old age too.

Don't forget goats; they have rights too...

[taxexile]

that goat has befouled her wedding dress.

[withnallstoke]

that goat has befouled her wedding dress.

I think she may have been fouled by others, that there goat is none other than Boo Cacky.

[Bower]

Well it ain't there, as marriage is a bond for procreation and the raising of offspring.

Should Mr NR and I get ours annulled then? I have never wanted my own children, yet this is the 2nd time I've been married. Soon, I'll be too old to have kids, anyway. Does that mean we as a couple have no right to be together legally? No right to love, comfort and security as a couple in our old age?

Same same but different, ENT

Marriage is a formal and (usually) public declaration of a couple's bond, first practiced by the aristocracy to safeguard family wealth then taken up by the hoi polloi in imitation of their 'betters'. Until then common law unions were the norm, lasting usually as long as the kids needed supporting.

As a couple, there's no hindrance to your right to be together as it is, so why the pseudo-religious farce of a wedding?

Isn't your trust and commitment to each other enough? Is a marriage certificate going to improve your chances of domestic and erotic success?

Of course not.

For some couples, public acclaim and recognition of their union, as in a marriage celebration, serves to protect them from outside influences, but really, it's up to the couple's personal integrity if the marriage is going to survive, and no amount of wedding bells and confetti is going to make any difference.

At the same time, I wish you and your hubby, and Peter and his hubby/wife all the best, but marriage per se is a totally unnecessary institution, and in the case of gheys, the situation is totally laughable.

I have been with my partner for 25 years we have great kids and built businesses together, she has always argued there is no reason to marry on the 'it aint broke don't fix it' reasoning. However tempus fugit and we now may have to marry in order to avoid a huge tax bill should one of us depart our mortal coil. Our hard earned assests are for the benefit of each other and our children not HM Customs and Excise

[ENT]

^ Which was the reason marriage got going as an institution, to consolidate family wealth.

Differing tax rates for married or single folk is a have and a rip-off.

[buriramboy]

My main objection to batty marriage in the UK is that gay people now have more rights and options than us people who still prefer the opposite sex. By this I mean the 'civil partnership' which was brought in for gays and is only available for gays and now they can get married also yet the 'civil partnership' option isn't available for couples of opposite sexes.

[ENT]

It is in NZ, called a de facto relationship, legally binding, claims to half shares the lot,...sound business venture.

[Seekingasylum]

^ Which was the reason marriage got going as an institution, to consolidate family wealth.

Differing tax rates for married or single folk is a have and a rip-off.

Err, there are no differing tax rates.

[buriramboy]

^ Which was the reason marriage got going as an institution, to consolidate family wealth.

Differing tax rates for married or single folk is a have and a rip-off.

Err, there are no differing tax rates.

You're out of touch, the Tories re introduced the married tax allowance, applies to batty marriage and civil partnerships too.

https://www.gov.uk/married-couples-allowance/overview

[Seekingasylum]

It says if one or other is born before 1935.

[Necron99]

If two fags get married in the forest and no one sees it, does it really matter?
Who gives a fuck, does it somehow lessen your life?

Or are you just pissed because their reception was probably better than yours and they got to have two bucks nights?

[November Rain]

As a couple, there's no hindrance to your right to be together as it is, so why the pseudo-religious farce of a wedding? Isn't your trust and commitment to each other enough?

Which was the reason marriage got going as an institution, to consolidate family wealth.

Yup, a big reason for marriage vs cohabitation. Legal/financial reasons. Not why I got married, but if hubby died my position is better as his wife rather than his partner - esp with no will.
So, if that is a benefit in heterosexual marriage, why should gay partners be denied that security? The ability to marry as a gay or lesbian couple simply makes it equal IMO

[ENT]

Wipe the difference and apply tax rates equally across the board.

Allowing a preferential tax break for being married, while being unmarried incurs the penalty of increased taxation obviously indicates an irrational social bias towards established emotiono-sexual unions in revenue collection.

Gone are the days when there was only one income per household, which could necessitating a tax break due to high household maintenance.

Increased emancipation of women has seen them rise to a position of financial and employment opportunity which is now starting to reach the level of their spouses.

With that sort of financial independence an equal tax burden is called for whether one is single or married, by common law, civil or church union.

Tax on the basis of one's preferred socio-sexual orientation, is all it is.

[harrybarracuda]

I think it's brilliant how much coverage it's got.

All those Mary Whitehouse clones like Blue must be spitting their digestives all over the place.

[charleyboy]

Honeymoon breakfast for Elliot...

Bet it was a 'fry up.'

[taxexile]

........ with a large portion of yoghurt on the side.