Piwanoi
Surely, you cannot ask me to believe that you do not have an opinion - one way or the other -on whether some ( possibly many?) of your compatriots hold similarly bitter resentments toward palestinians. You really don't have to be a clairvoyant to answer such a simple question?
I am not aware that any Member on these boards who hold the same view as myself have anything against the poor wretched Civilians who are caught up in this totally futile war ,may I remind you , There is one hell of a difference in between a normal Palastinian and Hamas ,and you might ask your self as to just why Hamas are nearly four years in arrears of their promised General Election ,and why in a poll 62% said they would not vote for Hamas again ,I wonder why?![]()
You say: MEMRI is operated by a group associated with the Israeli intelligence organisations. Well, according to you (see attached: Wisdom of the Pseudodo) and do correct me if I am wrong, or even if I'm right, the BBC is a bunch of bastard Zionists, therefore it is also closely associated with Israel.
You say: MEMRI is subsidised by US taxpayers, take my (pseudodo's) word on that. Let's entertain the notion that MEMRI is indeed subsidised by US taxpayers, because you say so and of course if a single US taxpayer dollar ends up directly or indirectly into MEMRI coffers - that makes your claim technically accurate. That's what you thrive on, technicalities.
Ok, let's say it is. But so is Hamas receiving taxpayer dollars, and Afghanistan, and Iraq, and Pakistan, and hundreds of thousands of Mexicans, therefore these and the millions of other people receiving direct and indirect US taxpayer $$ are all Zionist spies.
This is proof that MEMRI is in bed with Israeli intel.
If that is true, and I must confess I do not have the confidence of your highly reliable sources, so what?
And that is 'proof' of what, precisely?
And that is pseudoic 'proof' of what, precisely?
So what? And we only have your esteemed word for it that he's ubiquitous.
Best bit of your entire vomit. You form a speculative and erroneous argument through a series of points that you desperately need to believe are valid, and then triumphantly announce eureka as though it's a foregone conclusion that everyone agrees. I like that, persistence, you'll go far.
But let's not forget:
Wisdom of the Pseudodo - update:
MEMRI is part of the Israeli Intelligence service, because I say so and only bastard Zionist/Jew/Israeli scat pimps disagree;
Israel murdered 3 of its citizens as an excuse to turn Gaza into rubble and butcher Palestinian babies;
After murdering three of its own citizens, Israel used that as pretext to enter Gaza to search for them;
Israel must prove that the God of the Jews exists, and also that He said Israel should be owned in perpetuity by the bastard Jews. Then I agree Hamas should make a full and longlasting peace with Israel based on the pre-67 lines so they can destroy that fcuktard country;
Hamas rarely uses human shields, and even so to be completely honest it's not deliberate. They are under tremendous stress to avoid civilian casualties, but the poor dears are so overwhelmed by volunteers that it is not uncommon for people to be trampled to death in the rush to the roof;
Hamas wants peace, Israel wants war because that way they can murder more Palestinian babies, even though Hamas fighters routinely sacrifice themselves as human shields to protect their future generation;
Hamas and Fatah have both agreed to a 2 state solution, yet Israel refuses to because they want it all;
Israel wrote the Hamas Charter, which calls for the annihilation of the Jews; that's right, Jews, not Isrealis;
Israel supplies Hamas with the rockets that Hamas is firing at Israel;
Hamas does not build tunnels to bring in rockets and other weapons with which to murder Jews, including babies, because those are provided by the Israelis;
Hamas use the tunnels purely and simply to smuggle in much needed food and medicines in a vain effort to save some of the babies that the Israelis are murdering;
The Israelis do not supply Hamas with a 200-250 truck convoy or food, medicine, fuel and other humanitarian aid, five days a week;
The BBC employ a Jewish guy, everyone knows that all Jews are Zionist; therefore the BBC is a Zionist shill;
Joe Biden is a Zionist, but he does not work for the BBC which is a Zionist front;
The UN is so obviously pro-Israel, it's an injustice;
Israel has death camps, because the ANC says so.
Israel has to occupy more territory for it's growing Zionist population, that's why it's purging Gaza of its women and babies;
Hamas doesn't use human shields, they used to but not anymore, not like the Nazi Israelis that have been using human shields since forever;
Israel is quite happy to kill civilians, even their own, and blame it on Hamas;
Israel today = Nazi Germany in 1933;
The translation of MEMRI vids filled with uncomfortable truths, is deliberately and willfully wrong because they're Nazi Zionists;
Hillary Clinton is a bastard Jew-lover.
Abuse demeans the giver moreso than the recipient
The answers.... yet again..... to the irrelvent lies from leemo. Shame he can't read.
True - demonstrated on another thread that he has run away from.Originally Posted by leemo
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Leemo you twat, you have had that same string of bullshit deleted by the mods about 18 times now. Really? one of the rules about DO NOT REPOST SHIT THAT THE MODS DELETE means nothing to you?
So -you sad old twat -respond with where I am wrong backed with proof, or fuck off, you cancerous, odious, revolting, repulsive, repellent, repugnant, disgusting, offensive, objectionable, vile, foul, abhorrent, loathsome, nauseating, sickening, hateful, detestable, execrable, abominable, monstrous, appalling, reprehensible, deplorable, insufferable, intolerable, despicable, contemptible, unspeakable, atrocious, awful, terrible, dreadful, frightful, obnoxious, unsavory, unpalatable, unpleasant, disagreeable, nasty, noisome, distasteful sack of racist bigoted shit.
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The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) explores the Middle East and South Asia through their media. MEMRI bridges the language gap between the West and the Middle East and South Asia, providing timely translations of Arabic, Farsi, Urdu-Pashtu and Dari media, as well as original analysis of political, ideological, intellectual, social, cultural, and religious trends.
Founded in February 1998 to inform the debate over U.S. policy in the Middle East, MEMRI is an independent, nonpartisan, nonprofit, 501(c)3 organization. MEMRI's main office is located in Washington, DC, with branch offices in various world capitals. MEMRI research is translated into English, French, Polish, Japanese, and Hebrew.
Is Loss of MEMRI is Oyvesteiners disease?
A state based on hidden truth
rght of return
kezars
no nukes
no plot to murder uk french us citizens
mordechai vanunu and thats how a jew is treated
Mordechai Vanunu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Jews have let them into Europe to stop Gentiles picking on them.
Funny to watch the backfire.
Just so that normal people won't fall for the MEMRI bullshit... from our resident ADL bullshitter.
Selective Memri
Brian Whitaker investigates whether the 'independent' media institute that translates the Arabic newspapers is quite what it seems
For some time now, I have been receiving small gifts from a generous institute in the United States. The gifts are high-quality translations of articles from Arabic newspapers which the institute sends to me by email every few days, entirely free-of-charge.
The emails also go to politicians and academics, as well as to lots of other journalists. The stories they contain are usually interesting.
Whenever I get an email from the institute, several of my Guardian colleagues receive one too and regularly forward their copies to me - sometimes with a note suggesting that I might like to check out the story and write about it.
If the note happens to come from a more senior colleague, I'm left feeling that I really ought to write about it. One example last week was a couple of paragraphs translated by the institute, in which a former doctor in the Iraqi army claimed that Saddam Hussein had personally given orders to amputate the ears of military deserters.
The organisation that makes these translations and sends them out is the Middle East Media Research Institute (Memri), based in Washington but with recently-opened offices in London, Berlin and Jerusalem.
Its work is subsidised by US taxpayers because as an "independent, non-partisan, non-profit" organisation, it has tax-deductible status under American law.
Memri's purpose, according to its website, is to bridge the language gap between the west - where few speak Arabic - and the Middle East, by "providing timely translations of Arabic, Farsi, and Hebrew media".
Despite these high-minded statements, several things make me uneasy whenever I'm asked to look at a story circulated by Memri. First of all, it's a rather mysterious organisation. Its website does not give the names of any people to contact, not even an office address.
The reason for this secrecy, according to a former employee, is that "they don't want suicide bombers walking through the door on Monday morning" (Washington Times, June 20).
This strikes me as a somewhat over-the-top precaution for an institute that simply wants to break down east-west language barriers.
The second thing that makes me uneasy is that the stories selected by Memri for translation follow a familiar pattern: either they reflect badly on the character of Arabs or they in some way further the political agenda of Israel. I am not alone in this unease.
Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations told the Washington Times: "Memri's intent is to find the worst possible quotes from the Muslim world and disseminate them as widely as possible."
Memri might, of course, argue that it is seeking to encourage moderation by highlighting the blatant examples of intolerance and extremism. But if so, one would expect it - for the sake of non-partisanship - t o publicise extremist articles in the Hebrew media too.
Although Memri claims that it does provide translations from Hebrew media, I can't recall receiving any.
Evidence from Memri's website also casts doubt on its non-partisan status. Besides supporting liberal democracy, civil society, and the free market, the institute also emphasises "the continuing relevance of Zionism to the Jewish people and to the state of Israel".
That is what its website used to say, but the words about Zionism have now been deleted. The original page, however, can still be found in internet archives.
The reason for Memri's air of secrecy becomes clearer when we look at the people behind it. The co-founder and president of Memri, and the registered owner of its website, is an Israeli called Yigal Carmon.
Mr - or rather, Colonel - Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence and later served as counter-terrorism adviser to two Israeli prime ministers, Yitzhak Shamir and Yitzhak Rabin.
Retrieving another now-deleted page from the archives of Memri's website also throws up a list of its staff. Of the six people named, three - including Col Carmon - are described as having worked for Israeli intelligence.
Among the other three, one served in the Israeli army's Northern Command Ordnance Corps, one has an academic background, and the sixth is a former stand-up comedian.
Col Carmon's co-founder at Memri is Meyrav Wurmser, who is also director of the centre for Middle East policy at the Indianapolis-based Hudson Institute, which bills itself as "America's premier source of applied research on enduring policy challenges".
The ubiquitous Richard Perle, chairman of the Pentagon's defence policy board, recently joined Hudson's board of trustees.
Ms Wurmser is the author of an academic paper entitled Can Israel Survive Post-Zionism? in which she argues that leftwing Israeli intellectuals pose "more than a passing threat" to the state of Israel, undermining its soul and reducing its will for self-defence.
In addition, Ms Wurmser is a highly qualified, internationally recognised, inspiring and knowledgeable speaker on the Middle East whose presence would make any "event, radio or television show a unique one" - according to Benador Associates, a public relations company which touts her services.
Nobody, so far as I know, disputes the general accuracy of Memri's translations but there are other reasons to be concerned about its output.
The email it circulated last week about Saddam Hussein ordering people's ears to be cut off was an extract from a longer article in the pan-Arab newspaper, al-Hayat, by Adil Awadh who claimed to have first-hand knowledge of it.
It was the sort of tale about Iraqi brutality that newspapers would happily reprint without checking, especially in the current atmosphere of war fever. It may well be true, but it needs to be treated with a little circumspection.
Mr Awadh is not exactly an independent figure. He is, or at least was, a member of the Iraqi National Accord, an exiled Iraqi opposition group backed by the US - and neither al-Hayat nor Memri mentioned this.
Also, Mr Awadh's allegation first came to light some four years ago, when he had a strong personal reason for making it. According to a Washington Post report in 1998, the amputation claim formed part of his application for political asylum in the United States.
At the time, he was one of six Iraqis under arrest in the US as suspected terrorists or Iraqi intelligence agents, and he was trying to show that the Americans had made a mistake.
Earlier this year, Memri scored two significant propaganda successes against Saudi Arabia. The first was its translation of an article from al-Riyadh newspaper in which a columnist wrote that Jews use the blood of Christian or Muslim children in pastries for the Purim religious festival.
The writer, a university teacher, was apparently relying on an anti-semitic myth that dates back to the middle ages. What this demonstrated, more than anything, was the ignorance of many Arabs - even those highly educated - about Judaism and Israel, and their readiness to believe such ridiculous stories.
But Memri claimed al-Riyadh was a Saudi "government newspaper" - in fact it's privately owned - implying that the article had some form of official approval.
Al-Riyadh's editor said he had not seen the article before publication because he had been abroad. He apologised without hesitation and sacked his columnist, but by then the damage had been done.
Memri's next success came a month later when Saudi Arabia's ambassador to London wrote a poem entitled The Martyrs - about a young woman suicide bomber - which was published in al-Hayat newspaper.
Memri sent out translated extracts from the poem, which it described as "praising suicide bombers". Whether that was the poem's real message is a matter of interpretation. It could, perhaps more plausibly, be read as condemning the political ineffectiveness of Arab leaders, but Memri's interpretation was reported, almost without question, by the western media.
These incidents involving Saudi Arabia should not be viewed in isolation. They are part of building a case against the kingdom and persuading the United States to treat it as an enemy, rather than an ally.
It's a campaign that the Israeli government and American neo-conservatives have been pushing since early this year - one aspect of which was the bizarre anti-Saudi briefing at the Pentagon, hosted last month by Richard Perle.
To anyone who reads Arabic newspapers regularly, it should be obvious that the items highlighted by Memri are those that suit its agenda and are not representative of the newspapers' content as a whole.
The danger is that many of the senators, congressmen and "opinion formers" who don't read Arabic but receive Memri's emails may get the idea that these extreme examples are not only truly representative but also reflect the policies of Arab governments.
Memri's Col Carmon seems eager to encourage them in that belief. In Washington last April, in testimony to the House committee on international relations, he portrayed the Arab media as part of a wide-scale system of government-sponsored indoctrination.
"The controlled media of the Arab governments conveys hatred of the west, and in particular, of the United States," he said. "Prior to September 11, one could frequently find articles which openly supported, or even called for, terrorist attacks against the United States ...
"The United States is sometimes compared to Nazi Germany, President Bush to Hitler, Guantanamo to Auschwitz," he said.
In the case of the al-Jazeera satellite channel, he added, "the overwhelming majority of guests and callers are typically anti-American and anti-semitic".
Unfortunately, it is on the basis of such sweeping generalisations that much of American foreign policy is built these days.
As far as relations between the west and the Arab world are concerned, language is a barrier that perpetuates ignorance and can easily foster misunderstanding.
All it takes is a small but active group of Israelis to exploit that barrier for their own ends and start changing western perceptions of Arabs for the worse.
It is not difficult to see what Arabs might do to counter that. A group of Arab media companies could get together and publish translations of articles that more accurately reflect the content of their newspapers.
It would certainly not be beyond their means. But, as usual, they may prefer to sit back and grumble about the machinations of Israeli intelligence veterans.
The following correction was printed in the Guardian's Corrections and Clarifications column, Wednesday August 21 2002
In an article headed Atrocity stories regain currency, page 13, August 8, and in an article headed Selective Memri on the Guardian website, we referred to Dr Adil Awadh, an Iraqi doctor who alleged that Saddam Hussein had ordered doctors to amputate the ears of soldiers who deserted. Dr Awadh has asked us to make it clear that he has no connection with Memri (Middle East Media Research Institute), and that he did not authorise its translation of parts of an article by him. He is no longer a member of the Iraqi National Accord (INA). He is an independent member of the Iraqi National Congress (INC). His reference to orders by Saddam Hussein to cut off the ears of deserters has been supported by evidence from other sources.
Selective Memri | World news | theguardian.com
The Pong remain the same but the MEMRI lingers on
that WC Fields quote ' never give a sucker an even break' is probably hanging in every Israeli living room.
The more I read of Piwi, the more I think he is actually one of those nice gentle folk from the Westboro Baptist Church.
After all, the list of things Piwi hates (and leemo, and prag, and xanax, and fluke)
1 -Gays.
2 - Blacks / anyone who is not white / very white.
3 - Any followers of any religion to the point that they want them dead
4 - Peace, they are all about war and death and bloodshed
5 - Children - the children of any of the above, they pretty much like to know they are dying.
6 - Complete lack of empathy.
7 - anyone who is against injustice in the world
They are also
1- ever so slightly retarded
2 - inbred (most likely)
3 - incapable of reasoned or rational conversation.
4 - Believes that repeating mantras of hate makes them right
5 - Denialist - meet factual information and runs away, or ignores it.
So, Piwi is Fred Phelps.
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People who score high on fear/disgust reaction tests and low on empathy tests are many, many more times likely to be on the right of the spectrum. It's the best indicator for political affiliation there is outside of asking specifically political questions.Originally Posted by pseudolus
High fear/disgust and low empathy also correlates with preference for the familiar over the new, lack of intellectual curiosity, lack of humour, higher religiosity, higher tribalism and greater dislike of other income demographics.
bibo ergo sum
If you hear the thunder be happy - the lightening missed.
This time.
Interesting fast response to ISIS attacks on the Hazidi while people of Gaza are ignored
Indeed.
No one ever stopped to ask ONE SIMPLE QUESTION.
Why Aren't ISIS and Al-Qaeda Attacking Israel?
With the recent slaughter of Palestinians taking place on television screens across the world, only the grossly misinformed would believe that Israel’s Palestinian extermination program is actually “self-defense.”
Yet for all of Israel’s whining about how it is being targeted by “Islamic extremists” and “terrorists,”(which should be translated to mean Palestinians, Iran, or any other secular or nationalist Arab government in the region) there is a curious and deafening silence when it is confronted with actual terrorists and Muslim fanatics such as ISIS, al-Nusra, and the myriad of other fundamentalist groups waging jihad in Syria and Iraq.
This bizarre silence has yet to raise the eyebrows of the somnambulant general public.
Of course, Israel’s lack of concern regarding legitimate terrorist groups is not bizarre at all when one understands the perspective and goals held by the settler state toward its neighbors in the region or its connections to the very groups who espouse Israel as their number one enemy.
But while Israel does not respond with its usual apoplectic frothing of victimhood and danger regarding these terrorist groups that have now so infested the Middle East as to make the entire region a general war zone, it is important to point out that these same terrorist groups do not launch coordinated military attacks in Tel Aviv, they launch them in Damascus and Mosul – cities belonging to secular nations seen by Israel as the enemy.
The question then is “Why?” Why does Israel not share the concern it has over Palestinians, Iranians, Syrians, and Lebanese with al-Nusra, ISIS, and al-Qaeda? Why do these groups wage jihad against Israel’s enemies but not against Israel itself?
Why indeed?
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