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    What a Saturday night I'm gonna have...

    Add all three together and I still don't get 10%.


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    Carlsberg is the only one I'm familiar with.
    Carlsberg Export 5% but you have to buy it on Systembolaget or in a pub. Splendid lager it is.

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    Yeah... a distinct lack of planning on my part. I inherited these beers from my Norwegian mate who went home this week... they're not very good at all.

    The clocks go back tonight as well... so an extra hour in bed before work.

    I'll have to hit the Gato Negro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    If you get her around, don't muck about.

    Get her on the vodka

    He who dares.....
    Ditto.

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    I've got a bottle of Moose cider lined up for later.

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    James Squire 150 Lashes Pale Ale

    Pedestrian but passable.

    Workmanlike but quaffable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Workmanlike but quaffable.


    Looperish and ........?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    What a Saturday night I'm gonna have...

    Add all three together and I still don't get 10%.

    Premium Lager, the one to the right:

    Premium Lager (2.8%) by Spendrups Bryggeri is a Lager - Pale which has a rating of 2.1 out of 5, with 2314 ratings and reviews on Untappd.

    or

    Malt and hops, and maybe not much more. Suitable for sausages with bread, or something else that wants to be rinsed down with a little drink. (beermatch.se)
    May the bridges I burn light my way

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    I thought I'd give 'Premium Swedish Cider' a go tonight.

    In Norway they make yoghurt out of Skogsbær... 'fruits of the forest' or something like that.

    In Sweden they make cider out of Skogsbär... seems a bit strange but at 7% it's gotta be worth a try.



    ... a definite girls drink.

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    Must admit that the missus bought this for me by mistake. I'd asked her to pick up another bottle of tawny port from the wine merchant, and she clearly missed the Port art. Aussie effort, and actually really rather pleasant. Orangy notes on the nose and palette, sweetish but not overly so. Lack legs. Anyone who enjoys a Georgian kindzmarauli will properly enjoy it. Quite a bargain too at €30 a bottle here.
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    ^Winter warming, nice with a selection of cheeses.

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    Meanwhile in Seattle...

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    The two year study results are in. “Bunks for Drunks” saves tax dollars.

    Providing housing for chronic alcoholics, who are still drinking, can save taxpayers more than $40,000 annually, per alcoholic, according to the study released yesterday in The Journal of the American Medical Association.

    Nearly $4 million was saved by taxpayers by housing chronic, homeless drunks in a Seattle housing program, versus letting them sleep on the streets — which triggers costly health care and criminal justice services.



    When it was first unveiled three years ago, Seattle’s pilot program was not well received.

    “We’re paying for them to live there... sitting around all day in publicly subsidized apartments and drinking,” said Tucker Carlson of WNBC, who was apoplectic when he first heard about it. . “That’s a dream for winos. That’s a dream for a lot of Americans. I think that Kevin Federline essentially does that.”

    “It’s a living monument to a failed social policy” said John Carlson, a conservative local talk show host. It’s “aiding and abetting someone’s self-destruction.”



    The University of Washington study followed 95 participants in the Housing First program and a 39 person wait-list control group. The researchers compared public costs of the two strategies: giving the homeless housing — despite continued alcohol use — and leaving them out on the streets.

    Initially, the county identified 200 of the most severe alcoholics who had been randomly ricocheting through jails, hospital emergency rooms, and social service outreach programs. A lucky ninety five were offered permanent homes — studios — in the new four-story apartment building, which cost $11.2 million, and was paid for with city, state and federal dollars

    The researchers found the average cost of alcohol-related services — hospital emergency care, the nonprofit “sobering center” (where police bring alcoholics to dry out), and the King County jail was $57,984 per person, per year while the 95 were living on the streets.

    The savings and results were nothing but dramatic. Twelve months after moving into the apartment building, the average cost for these services for the same population dropped to $11,496 per person per year — an annual savings of $46,488.

    The study also found that daily drinking fell by roughly 2% per month while subjects were in the program, which offered the alcoholics permanent homes with some supportive services.

    The research by Mary E. Larimer, Ph.D et al, is in a murky area where we have historically gotten everything wrong. For too long, society has both coddled and demonized this woeful segment.

    —On the one hand we have been mean-spirited towards them and cruelly let them drink and drug themselves to death on our urban streets.

    —On the other hand we have permissively allowed them to destroy the quality of life in our public spaces, with panhandling, loitering, petty crimes, urinating and defecating in public.

    The alcoholic homeless often live outside the existing laws because the police don’t want to deal with foul smelling vagrants who will seldom show up in court or pay fines.



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    Homelessness and drug addiction are certainly not a new phenomenon. Public health historians estimate that between 4 and 8 percent of the population of all societies is dysfunctional because of addiction or mental problems or both; a percentage that has remained constant throughout recorded history. Traditional treatment of alcoholics has mandated that they be sober — that they have to “reach bottom” to get better. But the Seattle project puts some of this thinking in a new light.

    In America, the most abused drug by far is alcohol.

    What is new is the additional 400,000 mental patients out on the streets with little support since we closed most mental hospitals over the last three decades.

    Freedom proved to be a grim gift for many of the helpless souls. Today many of these brazen, troubled people are imposing their bizarre private hells on the rest of us.

    The reality is that most single, homeless street people are alcoholics, drug addicts and/or psychologically impaired. They self-medicate with alcohol and drugs.

    Most of these unfortunate souls desperately want help, but their illnesses prevent them from taking it. If going to a clean warm bed in a shelter or enrolling in a social program means giving up alcohol or drugs, they simply can’t do it.

    These woeful homeless people are almost impossible to treat.They refuse to stop drinking and abusing drugs. But what should we do about them? Leave them out on the streets to die? Leave them out on the streets to foul our neighborhoods?

    Nationwide 125,000 drug addicts and alcoholic die prematurely every year. (Worldwide the figure is two million) These people have a disease that is as real and deadly as cancer; and at some level, most people recognize this.

    But there is something about the concept — of supporting drunks who continue to drink — that offends the Puritan moral sense of many Americans. Most simply can’t believe that chronic winos and drug addicts don’t have a choice.

    When it comes to alcoholics and drug abusers, there is a mean streak in the Christian values of the American character. The idea of taking care of the obviously sick and the dying doesn’t seem to cut it. Where are the compassionate right-to-lifers when you need them?

    What started three years ago in Seattle may have repercussions nationwide. Delegations from New York, Atlanta, Fort Worth, Phoenix and Los Angeles have traveled to Seattle to learn more about the cost saving project. A similar program to house Native Americans with chronic drinking problems is underway in Minneapolis.

    Housing First is a low-cost, modern day asylum — a refuge that seems to humanly solve a multitude of problems both for society and the individuals themselves.

    The study was funded by grants from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, and the NIH.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    ^Winter warming, nice with a selection of cheeses.
    I went with some Shropshire blue and some fresh toasted almonds.

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    Interesting study, wasted on this thread.

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    Pulled out a new bottle of Bourbon, Single barrel. 43.3% ABV. Great nose and excellent taste


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    a definite girls drink.
    It looks quite good!!


    I had this sitting around for a bit, and thought I'd try it. Definitely delish! Ale mixed with spices like cloves and pumpkin spice. It is quite good!!


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    20 years sober last month Drinking tea.

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    How do you know if someone is an alcoholic?

    Dont worry, they'll fvcking tell you..

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    It looks like there will be no booze here until this lockdown is done, and as we all know those can last months. So, it will be soft drinks and tea for the time being. Glad I got a bender in last weekends with friends- Mongolians sure know how to drink and have a good time. Looking forward to that again

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    I haven't drunk any alcohol for months., (purely because I couldn't be bothered to buy anything...). But these photos encourage me to see what's available in the supermarket in town (Chinese place, so I doubt that there is a full range of CAMRA recommendations...)

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    A cheeky little jock-juice tonight upon hearing about the first major competition qualification since France 98

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    Pool almost done, celebrating Thanksgiving a day early

    Cracked me a bottle of 5 year aged Anejo tequila from my "Private Reserve".


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