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    Once great Britain- America's little drummer boy

    They are keeping Julian Assange holed up in the Ecuadorean embassy in London indefinitely, but he has not been charged with anything in either the UK or USA.

    They host the largest snooping station in Europe- which, we have recently found out, is largely devoted to snooping on the EU.

    Afghanistan, Iraq, you name it- they'll be there, licking Uncle Sams boots.

    Along with the US and Sunni Gulf States, they are funding and arming Al Qaeda in Syria, against a secular regime. The Islamist rebellion does not enjoy the popular support of the Syrian people (why would it?).

    And now, this-

    Glenn Greenwald's Partner Detained At UK Airport Under Terrorism Act


    Glenn Greenwald's partner was detained by authorities at London's Heathrow airport for nearly nine hours, the Guardian reported on Sunday.

    David Miranda, who lives with Greenwald in Brazil, was held under a controversial provision of Britain's Terrorism Act that allows police to stop, question and search people without having to prove any reasonable suspicion, and without a lawyer needing to be present. The paper said he was held for the maximum amount of time allowed under the law:

    According to official figures, most examinations under schedule 7 – over 97% – last under an hour, and only one in 2,000 people detained are kept for more than six hours.
    Miranda was then released without charge, but officials confiscated electronics equipment including his mobile phone, laptop, camera, memory sticks, DVDs and games consoles.

    Miranda was coming from Berlin, where, the Guardian said, he had stayed with Laura Poitras, the filmmaker and journalist who, along with Greenwald, has been at the center of the storm surrounding NSA leaker Edward Snowden. Ironically, Poitras, whose work usually involves sensitive national security issues, re-located to Berlin from America because she had grown tired of being constantly detained and questioned at airports.

    Glenn Greenwald's Partner Detained At UK Airport Under Terrorism Act


    The once proud country of my birth is nothing more than a lickspittle. I believe they should be kicked out of the european union, for the sake of freedom and democracy, and the rule of law. They are nothing more than an American puppet, with little if any credibility as a sovereign nation left. Within the EU, they are merely an American trojan horse and a serial impediment to decision makiing.

    I think this question should be looked at seriously- do they really deserve to be in the EU? They produce nothing of note, merely provide a market. Their biggest industry, banking, is part of the problem, a leech on broader society. On matters of foreign policy and principles of liberty and governance, they are nothing more than a US puppet. Throwing them out of the EU (the average Euro would be quite glad to see it, I wager) would at least remove the pretence, the veil- and the UK could become amerkas 51st state. Or remain on it's own as an impoverished nation. Which means, either way, the lot of the British working man would definitely get worse. The EU owes absolutely no allegiance to the UK. Get out while you can, poms. If you can.

    The European Union is far from perfect, but it is the sole significant entity left in the modern world still carrying the torch of democracy. On which basis, the UK sullies it.
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    Time to rethink that premise, eh? Sounds like the UK has it's shit together far better than the USA in terms of 'going to war'. Thank goodness we can still count on the moral support of the Frogs...



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    It is not in the Western nations interest to take any action to stop this conflict.
    Terrible that the kids are being killed etc. but as long as the sectarian divide keeps the atrocities in the mid-east then good.
    I am not anti semetic but the big winner from all this A-rab spring shite is guess who ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    They produce nothing of note...

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    Then, of course, there's the thriving motor industry in Destroit.

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    These stupid threads only go to illustrate the enormous chips the burger stuffing retards have on both shoulders.

    What a bunch of whingers they're turning into.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    These stupid threads only go to illustrate the enormous chips the burger stuffing retards have on both shoulders.

    What a bunch of whingers they're turning into.
    Steady on there harry.

    It were one of y'all who started this thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by david44
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    Believe there's more than one poster here who's been smoking those 'Way Out Woodbines'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    These stupid threads only go to illustrate the enormous chips the burger stuffing retards have on both shoulders.

    What a bunch of whingers they're turning into.
    Steady on there harry.

    It were one of y'all who started this thread...
    Stop with this faux "y'all" shit, it makes you look like a c u n t.

    This thread belongs in the DogHouse with the other bollocks like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    These stupid threads only go to illustrate the enormous chips the burger stuffing retards have on both shoulders.

    What a bunch of whingers they're turning into.
    Steady on there harry.

    It were one of y'all who started this thread...
    Stop with this faux "y'all" shit, it makes you look like a c u n t.

    This thread belongs in the DogHouse with the other bollocks like it.
    Well he is a phony. I bet this is the first bit of US warmongering that he has "opposed" (I think he secretly wants to see Syria bombed) all because it is Obama at the helm. Massive hypocrisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    These stupid threads only go to illustrate the enormous chips the burger stuffing retards have on both shoulders.

    What a bunch of whingers they're turning into.
    Steady on there harry.

    It were one of y'all who started this thread...
    Stop with this faux "y'all" shit, it makes you look like a c u n t.

    This thread belongs in the DogHouse with the other bollocks like it.
    Heh...meltdown much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Believe there's more than one poster here who's been smoking those 'Way Out Woodbines'
    Says the guy who thought Palin would be a good VP for a really old prez and Rafael Cruz is a good choice for 2016. Put down your bong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    I think this question should be looked at seriously- do they really deserve to be in the EU? They produce nothing of note, merely provide a market. Their biggest industry, banking, is part of the problem, a leech on broader society. On matters of foreign policy and principles of liberty and governance, they are nothing more than a US puppet. Throwing them out of the EU (the average Euro would be quite glad to see it, I wager) would at least remove the pretence, the veil- and the UK could become amerkas 51st state. Or remain on it's own as an impoverished nation. Which means, either way, the lot of the British working man would definitely get worse. The EU owes absolutely no allegiance to the UK. Get out while you can, poms. If you can.
    Can you please make it clear when you've quoted tosh from the Daily Mail or some other nonsensical rag? Thanks.

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    I make up my own tosh, thanks. I think a brit rant was entirely warranted, given it's Stasi like detention of that David Miranda gu(a)y. Brit government acting as a hired thug? What brit can be proud of that.

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    ^ I agree that the UK government is a disaster and has been for a while, but to say the UK produce nothing of note simply leaves me to assume you've not been near a modern motor vehicle recently.

    For example, nearly all car technology that is being badged as anything other that from the UK is simply a lie.

    Nearly all aircraft technology (that works) is from the UK.

    The bulk of modern medicine is still developed in the UK or by British led teams of scientists.

    And just for you, the latest military ships and subs are the most advanced in the word, by some margin. Shame they're wasted on supporting the US militarily when they should be used to sink the kunts.

    All in all, per capita and despite the fact the a very large portion of the country need culling, the UK still punches way above its weight; more so that any other country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Nearly all aircraft technology (that works) is from the UK.
    Everyone with a sane mind knows where the worlds best aircraft technology comes from and it couldn't be farther from the UK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    For example, nearly all car technology that is being badged as anything other that from the UK is simply a lie.
    Tata?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    And just for you, the latest military ships and subs are the most advanced in the word
    Lets talk about your most advanced Destroyer the daring class. It uses Danish radar, The "Sea Viper" air defense system is primarily European designed not British, the ship has seven guns six of which are of American design. Should I go on?



    You remind me of a child who thinks his father is mistakenly the smartest, toughest man on the planet. Grow up Marmers you cant be that naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Nearly all aircraft technology (that works) is from the UK.
    Everyone with a sane mind knows where the worlds best aircraft technology comes from and it couldn't be farther from the UK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    For example, nearly all car technology that is being badged as anything other that from the UK is simply a lie.
    Tata?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    And just for you, the latest military ships and subs are the most advanced in the word
    Lets talk about your most advanced Destroyer the daring class. It uses Danish radar, The "Sea Viper" air defense system is primarily European designed not British, the ship has seven guns six of which are of American design. Should I go on?



    You remind me of a child who thinks his father is mistakenly the smartest, toughest man on the planet. Grow up Marmers you cant be that naive.

    Best aircraft technology? Not the US, judging by the Dreamliner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morden
    Not the US, judging by the Dreamliner.
    Sorry but you are wrong. A battery issue will not take down what is a state of the art aircraft. Yes the US is far ahead. The next rung down would be the Euro's with regards to commercial aircraft but when you talk about military aircraft its not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Morden
    Not the US, judging by the Dreamliner.
    Sorry but you are wrong. A battery issue will not take down what is a state of the art aircraft. Yes the US is far ahead. The next rung down would be the Euro's with regards to commercial aircraft but when you talk about military aircraft its not even close.

    A battery fire can't take down an aircraft?

    I'll concede that the US is superior in military aircraft. That's because they are the most vicious nation on earth when it comes to wrecking other countries. Now they would rather do that from the air than on the ground. That policy is aimed to influence public opinion which will probably support remote massacres and not have the boys come home with PTSD, drug addiction and deranged killer minds.

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    The biggest manufacturing industry left in both the US & UK is 'defence and aerospace', to use the euphemism. Little point arguing about who's missile is best, the rest of the world happily buys them both. The drugs industry is also still quite big in the UK, be that fags, booze or pharma.

    Unfortunately we lost our historical leadership in the lucrative opium industry to the CIA & Taliban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morden
    A battery fire can't take down an aircraft?
    Sorry I meant the entire dreamliner program. The problems with Boeing's commercial aircraft division are easy to point out. I am very familiar with it living in Seattle and having a number of family members who actually build the airplanes. The corporate execs are obsessed with eking out every dollar in profit. Parts that where manufactured in house have been outsourced case in point the batteries that are currently causing problems. You can bet if those batteries had been designed and manufactured in house that problem would never have even existed.

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    The curse of the uk is that, bsnub and marmight you are both right and wrong... just in different ways.

    brits have a culture and edcuation system that creates creative minds that allow the UK to punch well above its weight in its contribution to the Arts, science and engineering and it has consistently done so for a very long time.

    As marmight correctly pointed out many of the worlds most impotent technologies have started thier lives with brits, penicillin and mri scanner that saves your life, the magnatron that cooks your food, the packet switch that lead to the internet, http that enables this forum, the encryption that enables ecommerce, the processors that power your printer, scanner and phone.

    Unfortunately with equal consistency the UK government has lacked the resources and British society the business skills to take that creativity and turn it into industry.
    This is the curse of the UK and something we really need to deal with. A read up of the history of Psion and Arm demonstrate both sides of this coin in depressing completeness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    The curse of the uk is that, bsnub and marmight you are both right and wrong... just in different ways.

    brits have a culture and edcuation system that creates creative minds that allow the UK to punch well above its weight in its contribution to the Arts, science and engineering and it has consistently done so for a very long time.

    As marmight correctly pointed out many of the worlds most impotent technologies have started thier lives with brits, penicillin and mri scanner that saves your life, the magnatron that cooks your food, the packet switch that lead to the internet, http that enables this forum, the encryption that enables ecommerce, the processors that power your printer, scanner and phone.

    Unfortunately with equal consistency the UK government has lacked the resources and British society the business skills to take that creativity and turn it into industry.
    This is the curse of the UK and something we really need to deal with. A read up of the history of Psion and Arm demonstrate both sides of this coin in depressing completeness.

    Consider also the sports invented in Great Britain:

    Football.

    Rugby - played in the US as American Football with players in armour and tea breaks every few seconds.

    Netball - a schoolgirl game played by men in the US and called basketball.

    Rounders - another schoolgirl game played by men in the US as baseball.

    Tennis - played all around the world.

    Cricket - played in several countries.

    Golf - played all around the world.

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