Thread: Brilliant new medical procedure and I was there.

Originally Posted by alitongkat

if someone gets altitude sick, then there is already an underlying (blood) condition...

so, its not a good test candidate...

(and the guys do training and think they can avoid altitude sickness... ahahahah...)

You forgot your gibberish.

youve been altitude sick, koojo ?

Originally Posted by alitongkat

youve been altitude sick, koojo ?

I threw up when I was high once.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Now, Flemming, who got the nobel prize in Physiology or Medicine for discovering penicillin....

Didn't he discover James Bond?...

Originally Posted by poorfalang

given it is suck a small non invasive procedure, if aseptic Techniques are maintained and sterile equipment used the correct way, you should be fine,

When I was informed that a medical procedure was going to take place I was taken aback but after watching the entire process I could not fault the care taken to maintain a sterile environment.

Areas that were injected were cleaned and swabbed, needles were removed from their sterile packaging and new rubber cloves were used for each process.

Quite professional even though the procedure was completed in the doctor's living room.

A short report on the American patient. He reports that the pain from the procedure cleared by the following morning and apart from the pain in the damaged ligament area on his right ankle there is a noticeable improvement in the movement of both ankles and the pain has reduced significantly.

He has postponed his trip to Angola and will instead be returning for the second treatment this weekend.

He deems the process, and in his case, a success.

^ good to hear that, as long as the patient is better,

Originally Posted by poorfalang

good to hear that, as long as the patient is better,

I of course was skeptical particularly as I knew nothing about the procedure until 2 nights ago.

But the news back is there is a real physical improvement with this patient anyway.

That may because a lot of fluid was drained from the ankle joint cavity before the plasma was injected but who knows.

I suppose when you think about it to enrich a damaged joint with natures own medicine must somehow improve the condition.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

That may because a lot of fluid was drained from the ankle joint cavity before the plasma was injected but who knows.

Just draining the fluid and releasing the pressure would of given him immediate relief.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

That may because a lot of fluid was drained from the ankle joint cavity before the plasma was injected but who knows.

Just draining the fluid and releasing the pressure would of given him immediate relief.

It usually does me. Boomtish.
(I'll get me coat)

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

That may because a lot of fluid was drained from the ankle joint cavity before the plasma was injected but who knows.

Just draining the fluid and releasing the pressure would of given him immediate relief.

Exactly, plus he mentions using a local anesthetic if I recall? Still effective upon leaving??.. Likely...

Just a heads up about being in Sterile area when the needle is injected.

My doctors surgery backs onto a Pathologists area, once the Doctor drew the blood and activated it with the plasma I was ushered Immediately next door into a room for the Injection.

This was a normal room decked out with the Ultra sound equipment so the Doctor could accurately see where my Tendon was damaged and where he needed to place the needle .

It could in no way be considered a sterile area but of course the needles where, the Doctor and his assistant where wearing gloves and my ankle was swabbed before the injection.

So the debate concerning this procedure being dodgy because it was not carried out in a sterile area is not correct as I was in a normal room and not an operating Theater.

The procedure could be compared to having a blood test except there injecting blood and not withdrawing it.

I was watching the needle being pushed into my ankle until the Doctor found the exact spot and began the injection.

As far as marking the spot with a marker pen and then having a crack at locating the affected spot goes I cant see how LT's Doctor can be certain about getting it right.

That's why the Injection is done under Ultra Sound so the injection can be done accurately.

Fooking hurt though.

People can go into shock
this kind of back street procedure is illegal and unethical
Any qualified doctor in the west would immediately be struck off
I am suprised to hear that a qualified Australian doctor would attempt to ruin his career.
I would put this on par with back street abortionists
I say this as I was sent down due an ethical error.

I reckon the American is the Charlatan doctor's sidekick

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Anyways this mate of mine is quite famous in Oz and has treated some of the most famous people in the country with complete success.


The reason he is here in Thailand is to set up a hospital and train the locals so I am sure it is not a scam.

So he's worth a mint in Oz (must be - I work with run-of-the-mill consults and they are loaded) and has a potential huge business opportunity in LOS and he's putting it all in jeopardy to do a bit of DIY work on a dining table in Patts? (and I have no doubt he would be scrubbed out if this was reported in Oz).


But then until the patient actually has some benefits demonstrated, all he's done is stick a few needles into someone for no good reason.

Originally Posted by Ukan Kizmiaz

I have no doubt he would be scrubbed out if this was reported in Oz.


But then until the patient actually has some benefits demonstrated, all he's done is stick a few needles into someone for no good reason.

What a load of ill informed fuking rubbish this post is.

The doctor puts on a pair of gloves swabs the area and does the Injection, the key is correct placement of the injection and the crucial time factor of the Injection.


Many people have had success with this treatment in the past and its used to treat a very hard part of the body to repair.

Jessus, some people are just so fuking uninformed they pen any old bolliks.

Without doubt many good points made on this thread and as above.

With regard to the American, if he was his sidekick then he was a bloody convincing one. Especially his ankles being twice the size of a normal ankle was pretty fucking convincing.

As I have quoted, this procedure seems to have helped the American to the point that he has requested the second treatment immediately.

I will keep in touch with him as I also, and in the back of my mind, am still slightly skeptical about how such a simple process can achieve such dramatic results.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

As I have quoted, this procedure seems to have helped the American to the point that he has requested the second treatment immediately.

Don't work like that, Quite the opposite.

Be interested to hear how long your Doctor waited before he give it to him again.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I will keep in touch with him as I also, and in the back of my mind, am still slightly skeptical about how such a simple process can achieve such dramatic results.

PRP can have quite dramatic results if done properly in the correct manner. Different results for different patients though.

I'm hoping it works for me, I'm giving it my best shot by keeping the weight of it for the ten days and having the injections done accurately.

Your Doctor seems to be doing it differently than my Doctor, not in a controlled environment and not using Ultra sound location for accurate injection into the tendon.

Also no recovery period by keeping the weight of the ankle and also replying the procedure at short intervals.

I wonder who is doing it correctly ??? I think I'd rather stay with my Doctor when you consider the actual science behind this treatment.

^Look up placebo effect

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

He produced what I thought was a rice cooker

mini autoclave/ steam-sterilizer - liek wot dentists use.



(not so good for sticky rice - tho)

good luck...

i always think, one must find the cause of a disease..
but apparently that interests no arse out there...???
the treatment is, as if you have a bullet in the head and they are putting on plasters... "look, doesnt bleed anymore"...

with that special things, it would imo make sense to see a really good endocinologist, who does do a full blood (and 24h urine) et. pattern, with really all and everything...
that costs thousands, but its worth it...

Originally Posted by alitongkat

Good luck...

I always think, one must find the cause of a disease..

Torn tendons are quite common in active people and bloody slow to repair, my Podiatrist was not happy when he seen my scans.


Many sports professionals suffer from this injury, it can be career ending.

All Sports podiatrists know about PRP Treatment and recommend it.

As of this time there is no other better alternative.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

When I was informed that a medical procedure was going to take place I was taken aback but after watching the entire process I could not fault the care taken to maintain a sterile environment.

Areas that were injected were cleaned and swabbed, needles were removed from their sterile packaging and new rubber cloves were used for each process.

Quite professional even though the procedure was completed in the doctor's living room.

A video was made of the whole procedure for the sceptics: